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Old 05-22-2005, 12:16 AM   #121
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Well, it seems that "uhm... sometimes" was sooner than expected, as in tonight. I just saw the movie. My first thought afterwards was: "That's it?"

There's too much missing. Somehow there are 20 years missing, and I do really want to see what happens during those. I mean, somehow Chewie and Han Solo meet up and stuff.

And isn't it odd, that they have the Death Star half built by the end and are still building 20 years later. And then the thing gets blasted apart and they have a new one within months (well almost)? That struck me a bit odd.

Also, why did they delete C3PO's memory in the end. And "because in EP IV he doesn't remember Obi Wan" doesn't count. And I daresay that R2D2 knows a lot more about the happenings than C3PO.

And why the heck did JarJar have to be in that movie? Why?

As for the lightsaber-battles. They were almost too fast. I only got the part where Obi Wan slices Anakin apart by accident. Also I felt that there were too many lightsabers too near to the camera, as in they took up too much of the picture.

And why did the Jedi die that easily?

But all in all, a good movie. It deserves the name Star Wars. I wouldn't say it was outstanding, but I felt entertained.

1) There's always time missing between these movies, a few years go by between each episode.

2) The first Death Star was completed by Episode VI. The next one was started a few years later.

3) The story doesn't take place entirely on the screen. All forms of media ranging from video games (Shadows of the Empire) to comics to novels bridge the gaps between the films. You just need to dig around for the information you want.

4) The droid's memory had to be erased because they had knowledge of the Skywalker twins and their whereabouts. If the empire got a hold of either 3PO or R2 they could extract the information. It was done for the saftey of Luke and Leia.

5) The Jedi were caught off guard and were overwhelmed by the clone troopers, Anakin, and Palpatine. Also keep in mind that both Palpatine and Anakin are powerful opponents.

6) I dunno why Jar Jar was in there. I was kind of hoping they'd burn him in the lava, too.
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Old 05-22-2005, 01:29 AM   #122
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I actually liked Jar Jar's little cameo. At least he didn't talk.
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Old 05-22-2005, 04:28 AM   #123
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2) The first Death Star was completed by Episode VI. The next one was started a few years later.
I know, but it took thme 20 years to build the first one, well at least the missing half of it, but they build half of the new one within months. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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4) The droid's memory had to be erased because they had knowledge of the Skywalker twins and their whereabouts. If the empire got a hold of either 3PO or R2 they could extract the information. It was done for the saftey of Luke and Leia.
They only erased C3PO's memory in the German dub, nobody was talking about R2D2's.

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5) The Jedi were caught off guard and were overwhelmed by the clone troopers, Anakin, and Palpatine. Also keep in mind that both Palpatine and Anakin are powerful opponents.
But as a Jedi, with all those enhanced senses and awesome skills... I mean Yoda got away, why didn't, let's say Aayla Secura, get away too? And you certainly hear it when a guy behind you gets a direct order from a Sith Lord.
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:11 AM   #124
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You have a point. I guess the only explanation I can offer is that they were looking at the prototype Death Star, which is just the frame and the super laser. That comes in later.



The R2D2 thing is a smidge off. But what I'm more curious about is why Vader doesn't recognize C3PO when they see each other on Cloud City?

But to be fair, Star Wars never made much sense in the first place. There are just some parts where you just have to enjoy the movie and not question the physics in play.
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:41 AM   #125
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The R2D2 thing is a smidge off. But what I'm more curious about is why Vader doesn't recognize C3PO when they see each other on Cloud City?
Probably because the C3PO-models soon became a standard-model. There are plenty of C3PO-units running around, so Vader couldn't possibly point out "his" C3PO.
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Old 05-22-2005, 12:10 PM   #126
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I know, but it took thme 20 years to build the first one, well at least the missing half of it, but they build half of the new one within months. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
It would have been twenty years since the last one was built, technology evolves, or the Empire pilages enough planets to construct another one quicker with sufficent resources.

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But as a Jedi, with all those enhanced senses and awesome skills... I mean Yoda got away, why didn't, let's say Aayla Secura, get away too? And you certainly hear it when a guy behind you gets a direct order from a Sith Lord.
Only Windu and his Jedi Knights knew Palpatine was a sith lord, through Anakins' revelation

Plus the Jedi are'nt as reliable when caught off-guard by Clone Troopers created and programmed by a SITH LORD, Yoda could'nt remotley tell Anakain would betray them either, besides, the Jedi might have assumed Order 66 was a code for "break for lunch"

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Old 05-22-2005, 06:12 PM   #127
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Okay so I saw it today. It was the best out of the new ones no contest there. It was umm cool in some parts and kinda lame in others. The dialog was pretty bad espcially in parts when Anakin and Padme talk. I liked how they explained everything that was good and I also liked how Anakin lost his legs and his arm. Im not really into to Star Wars so Im not sure how it stacks up compared to the other films. Ive seen them all but I really dont remember any of them it was so long ago. One problem I had with this movie was the battle scenes. It was like watching thousands of colored lights flash in front of me the whole time. It really hurt my eyes in some parts. But other then a few minor things I cant complain it was a nice way to tie up the series
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:07 AM   #128
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i just saw it for the second time... this time i saw the MF (yay!) and George Lucas. The first time i saw it the dialog between Anni and Padme seemed not that great, but the second time around it seemed better than i remember... odd
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:36 AM   #129
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Saw it last night.

It was a definate improvement.

My only major complaints:

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Jar Jar didn't die

Grievous was a waste of a cool character, just like Maul was

Dooku got killed in the first ten minutes

Darth Vader going "NOOOOO!!!!" was absolutely lame


Other than that, yeah, I enjoyed it. Might even go see it a second time
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:52 PM   #130
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Old 05-24-2005, 04:46 PM   #131
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Yeah, I was soo happy after seeing this. I'm not a big fan of the prequel trilogy, but this one for me finally really felt like a Star Wars film. One of the problems I have with the other two is that to me, they don't feel like Star Wars, they feel like something else. This movie finally felt like Star Wars. My favorite Star Wars is ESB, but ROTS in my opinion is equal to ROTJ.

As if seeing this movie didn't make me happy enough, I also got to see trailers for Fantastic Four and Batman Begins!!! ::Boooiiinnnggg::
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Old 05-24-2005, 07:30 PM   #132
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Just saw episode 3!!! Totally awesome!!!


My only complaint was that Kashyyk wasn't exactly as I expected.....it certainly didn't look like the description in the books. From the books it's described as a jungle planet who's people live high in the trees because the ground is too dangerous. Where the heck do beaches come into play??? Im thinking that may have been just a small outpost on the planet and not one of the major tree cities. But it was WAY kewl to see Chewbacca and his brother!!!

Other than Kashyyk I loved the movie.... Yoda kicked butt and R2 kicked butt even tho he seemed to be the butt of everybody's jokes.... all the funny stuff happened to R2D2.

Oh and the droid warriors!! I noticed that as they were being sliced by the light sabres they screamed and went "ow ow ow!"
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:08 PM   #133
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er.... i was remembering ANH and Ben Kenobi says to luke "your father always wanted you to have this(talkin about the lightsaber)" ... and Anni never said that to Obi,.... Obi just took it....
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Old 05-25-2005, 04:38 AM   #134
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Uhm yeah while Anakin is laying there; burning to a crisp do you think they should have had him say "Oh by the way Obi-Wan, I want my kid to have my lightsaber someday"?

Does it really matter?
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:06 AM   #135
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er.... i was remembering ANH and Ben Kenobi says to luke "your father always wanted you to have this(talkin about the lightsaber)" ... and Anni never said that to Obi,.... Obi just took it....
What would you have said? "I took this from your father after I pwned his ass?"
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Old 05-25-2005, 08:42 AM   #136
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Well, let's say "It was your father's..." I mean, that'd sound somehow better.

But I wouldn't say "pwned" (mainly because I hate that word) but sort of "I took this from you father after I cut his legs and arm off and left him to burn in a lava-pit". Sounds a bit more convincing.
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Old 05-25-2005, 09:41 AM   #137
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Well, let's say "It was your father's..." I mean, that'd sound somehow better.

But I wouldn't say "pwned" (mainly because I hate that word) but sort of "I took this from you father after I cut his legs and arm off and left him to burn in a lava-pit". Sounds a bit more convincing.
Well, it was a joke when I stated that, naturally he'd tell him in that way
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Old 05-25-2005, 10:20 AM   #138
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Well, let's say "It was your father's..." I mean, that'd sound somehow better.

But I wouldn't say "pwned" (mainly because I hate that word) but sort of "I took this from you father after I cut his legs and arm off and left him to burn in a lava-pit". Sounds a bit more convincing.
You actually took that serious?!
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Old 05-25-2005, 12:41 PM   #139
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I know, but it took thme 20 years to build the first one, well at least the missing half of it, but they build half of the new one within months. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Remember "Clerks"

That movie explains all of it, the Empire hired independent contractors to build the second one...

BTW Zarius im going to sig that
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Old 05-26-2005, 02:04 AM   #140
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After Seein Episode 3 for a second time i got an idea for a fanfilm. "Pimp My Apprentice" is coming yo' way son!
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