The Red Sky Seasons...

[Mandi-chan]

I'm gonna be getting the first two seasons of the old toon on dvd soon, and have heard some stuff about the last few seasons (red sky) being more serious and stuff like the first three season were. Can anyone tell me more about them, I'm sure most of you guys have seen the eps. Also, do you know if these eps were ever released on tape?

[Anarky]

They were more serious, but they made several mistakes, settingwise that is.

• Carter: some random person who has the ability to turn into a mutant whenever he wants. he was something like "The TMNT's Poochie"
• Almost no Shredder and Krang: pretty much explains itself.
• The mutations of the TMNT: some might like them, but I sure didn't

But they also made some good stuff

• April's new outfit
• Krang being more involved than just planning something
• The TMNT are actually in trouble while fighting

[Deathknight]

6 of the red sky eps were released on VHS. They are extremely rare and took me about a year to get my hands on. I checked ebay every friggen day too. Anyway, the vhs are: Get Shredder! (Also contains Wraith of the Rat King) Cry H.a.v.o.c.! (Also contains H.a.v.o.c. in the streets), and Cyber Turtles (also contains State of Shock.) Unfortunately, my favorite ep of season 8, Turtle Trek, never hit vhs.

[ZariusTwo]

Get Shredder is regarded as THE greatest Red Sky episode, purly because Shredder finally acts like Shredder, the Turtles are outlawed again, we learn more of Krangs' past, and Channel 6 meets it's demise.

[Deathknight]

meh, I thought Shredder acted awesome throughout the series. Shredder could've easily destroyed the turtles it was just that the writers wouldn't let him

Shredder: "What?! The Turtles! They're always in my way!"
Krang: "It is their show you know."
-Menace, Maestro Please

[remain in light]

Originally Posted by Anarky

• Carter: some random person who has the ability to turn into a mutant whenever he wants. he was something like "The TMNT's Poochie"

Reading that got me the image of Carter renacting Poochie's famous final dialogue:

Leo: Carter, you look like you have something to say! Do you?

Carter: I certainly do! *quick voice actor change* I must go back to my home, which is on another planet. So long!

I don't remember the exact quote, but you guys know what I'm saying. It's fun to remember The Simpsons when they were still funny.

Carter was a tool.

[Sage Ninja]

I didn't particularly enjoy the redsky series of the classic toon but it wasn't completly crap it had some good things. Like for instance I loved the new animation designs they had for the turtles and the way their bandanna where drawn. i liked the anger and frustration that was displayed by the turtles by being persucuted by every one else and it got really serious, some great drama there and it could hve been better if they had played that up a little more.

Don't quote me on this but i believe Leonardo comes very close to actually killing in this as well. Even sarcastic Raphael started to show a little darkness in reaction to his frustration of the turtles treatment. A few of the episodes where tolerable but seriously i enjoyed season eight beter than nine and ten.

what i didn't like was Carter, I couldn't stand him OMG and the fact that the turtles began to super mutate. I hated, hated, hated that. Especially when the turtles started to lose every battle they where in unless they transformed and became basically depedent on them. In other words the turtles got weaker. The cop out ending of the series!

[Jephael]

I used to think 1994 was a bad season, but now I realize atleast it was better that the final 2 years we had, which I like to call the "Carter Crapfest"!

[Sage Ninja]

if they hadn't introduced Carter and hadn't gotten rid of Shredder and Krang and the channel six people, than it would have survived...heck maybe it would still be on now

[raphaelprime]

i personally like the red sky seasons better(well after the first 2 seasons)...i didnt mind the turtles mutation going awry, i mean, its what Raph's goin through now in volume 4, cept back then they were bitten by vampires, their mutation was becoming unstable n made perfect sense to me, because any kinda "ooze" like that, just like todays medicene, has side effects...Carter didnt bother me much, if they would have left him without the mutation(and maybe thrown in a bat n hockey stick) he pretty much was like casey jones in a way(since we really only seen casey in 2 episodes of the old too).

[Mandi-chan]

I think Red Sky eps sound interesting, so if they ever come out on dvd I'll be getting them. If it's slightly serious, I'll want to see it.

David Wise, didn't he write eps in the first three seasons and well as the Red Sky ones?

Also, could I get a pic of this Carter guy. As well as any screens from the RS seasons you guys have? Thanks!

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by raphaelprime

i personally like the red sky seasons better(well after the first 2 seasons)...i didnt mind the turtles mutation going awry, i mean, its what Raph's goin through now in volume 4, cept back then they were bitten by vampires, their mutation was becoming unstable n made perfect sense to me, because any kinda "ooze" like that, just like todays medicene, has side effects...Carter didnt bother me much, if they would have left him without the mutation(and maybe thrown in a bat n hockey stick) he pretty much was like casey jones in a way(since we really only seen casey in 2 episodes of the old too).

actully Casey jones was in one of the red sky episodes....the one where the turtles where the cyber outfits....and he got to fight shredder it was awsome...casey in the old show was such a better fighter then he is in this new show....hes just a moron now...
-Putrecent

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Mandi-chan

David Wise, didn't he write eps in the first three seasons and well as the Red Sky ones?

Wise was story editor for nearly the entire series' duration, and wrote the majority of Turtles episodes until Season Ten

[Mandi-chan]

Alright, last night I finally got to watch a red sky ep (my friend got the first season dvd and we watched it). Here's what I think of it: WOW! (happy wow )

I was amazed by how good it was! It was so different from the rest of the old toon, it was practically a different cartoon altogether. I was very impressed!

The animation was almost as good as the new toons animation (old toon styled but good!). The characters were much more serious, the bad guy was creepy and intimidating (sorry, but old toon Shredder never came across that way to me. I liked him because he's funny, he wasn't a big bad in my eyes though), April was much more likeable, the new guy Carter was interesting (is it just me, or does he look like Static a little?),...it was just so damn good! I liked the storyline too,I really hope they put those seasons on dvd!

[Weapon X]

Originally Posted by Mandi-chan

I was amazed by how good it was! It was so different from the rest of the old toon, it was practically a different cartoon altogether. I was very impressed!

The animation was almost as good as the new toons animation (old toon styled but good!). The characters were much more serious, the bad guy was creepy and intimidating (sorry, but old toon Shredder never came across that way to me. I liked him because he's funny, he wasn't a big bad in my eyes though), April was much more likeable, the new guy Carter was interesting (is it just me, or does he look like Static a little?),...it was just so damn good!

Unfortunatly they decided to change it too late, it's how the toon should have been throughout, but I still love the old toon anyways.

Originally Posted by Mandi-chan

I liked the storyline too,I really hope they put those seasons on dvd!

Yes along with the rest.

[FALLEN ELDOR]

I still remember watching TMNT back then (94/95 IIRC) but when exactly did the "red sky" season begin? I remember channel six blowing up, I remember the mutations and Carter (thought that was Zack?...) I remember Casey and Rat king looking and acting a lot more cool and I recall that alien crime boss guy, Dreck, or Drash, or something. Never liked him that much...

[Sage Ninja]

I have a question in the red sky arc when they defeated Dregg did they do it as super mutants or as their normal selves?

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

I have a question in the red sky arc when they defeated Dregg did they do it as super mutants or as their normal selves?

Depends which season, or arc, you're even talking about

[Spitfire]

Didn't they steal Krang's body and use it to fight Dregg when he was Godzilla size?

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Didn't they steal Krang's body and use it to fight Dregg when he was Godzilla size?

Yeah, in the final episode, but they also defeated him in a different way during season nine, so it's difficult to know which one Sage is talking about