Smallville In Movie Continunity? (Season Five Spoilers)

*ZariusTwo* · 06-08-2005, 08:52 PM

According to Dark Horizons.com, Smallvilles' fifth season will contain hints and ties to Superman Returns, the ship that landed at the conclusion of "Commencment" will be the exact same ship Clark uses to depart Earth after Superman II ends (Superman Returns replaces III and IV in continunity), and the ship that he'll use to return in the movie. The occupant of the ship in the finale will also wear the black Kryptonian coustume often associated with Clark in the comics from time to time, and which he will ear in Superman Returns at the beggining of the film when he crash lands on the farm

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050608g.php

...How screwed up is this?

Mandi-chan · 06-09-2005, 07:31 PM

I still haven't seen the movies yet, and stopped watching Smallville due to my increasing disappointments with it (plus it was up against "LOST", and there's no way I was turning that show down!).

Is there something wrong with the news you posted? Is it out of the comics storylines or something? I'm in the dark when it comes to comics...

*ZariusTwo* · 06-09-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandi-chan

Is it out of the comics storylines or something? I'm in the dark when it comes to comics...

No, this is an original story for the movie, although the Black Kryptonian coustume came from the comics

Just watch the first two movies and ignore III and IV, hell, thats' also what Superman Returns is doing (replacing the last two films in continunity)

*The Stryker* · 06-10-2005, 11:30 AM

They Should Replace II as well...Two wasn't anything to scream about either.

~~BartAllen~~ · 06-10-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

They Should Replace II as well...Two wasn't anything to scream about either.

in my opinion. they should of just made a new movie. instead of doing a half assed sequal to the older superman flicks. which in my opinion sucked.

*DrSpengler* · 06-10-2005, 12:52 PM

While I honestly thoguth Superman II was superior to the first one, I'm agreeing with Bart Allen on this.

They should've just gone the Batman Begins route and started over from scratch. The original Superman movies are just too...dated by today's standards. Not only in special effects and appearance, but the fact that those movies were made pre-Crisis, before Superman got his reboot.

The post-Crisis Superman is just so different from the pre-Crisis one, so why make a movie using that continuity?

There's no point complaining, since what's done is done, but I still think it was a pretty bad idea. Especially since if they had just rebooted both franchises we could've ended up with a new DC film universe and possible cross-overs movies in the future.

*ZariusTwo* · 06-10-2005, 03:58 PM

Because the current post-crisis Superman will be drasticlly different when Infinity Crisis wraps up, and might be closer in terms of premise to the retconned movie series

I mean...Lex is now an insane criminal scientest in both mediums anyway now, theres' little to really seperate the two if you use that argument

*DrSpengler* · 06-10-2005, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Because the current post-crisis Superman will be drasticlly different when Infinity Crisis wraps up, and might be closer in terms of premise to the retconned movie series

I mean...Lex is now an insane criminal scientest in both mediums anyway now, theres' little to really seperate the two if you use that argument

Lex has reverted to his pre-Crisis self, yes, but I highly doubt that they'll ever make Superman as insanely powerful as he used to be. As SuperBOY he was strong enough to tow entire galaxis around. Rediculous. And I doubt he'll ever be fast enough to fly back in time whenever something happens that he doesn't like. Or, depending on your point of view of the ending of Superman I, I doubt he'll ever be able to spin the Earth in the opposite direction to reverse time-itself.

Then, of course, that stupid Birthright mini that retconned out Man of Steel so Superman's orgin would be more like Smallville/pre-Crisis.

~~Leo656~~ · 06-16-2005, 03:56 PM

God, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought "Birthright" sucked. I like "Smallville" well enough, but it's a damn TV show, and I hate when the comics (aka, the SOURCE MATERIAL) get changed just to accomodate a movie or TV show (aka, the CHEAP CASH-IN). Mark Waid's done some cool stuff, but "Birthright" pissed me off royally.

*DrSpengler* · 06-16-2005, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

God, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought "Birthright" sucked. I like "Smallville" well enough, but it's a damn TV show, and I hate when the comics (aka, the SOURCE MATERIAL) get changed just to accomodate a movie or TV show (aka, the CHEAP CASH-IN). Mark Waid's done some cool stuff, but "Birthright" pissed me off royally.

Waid claims that he had the idea for Birthright in his head long before Smallville ever came into production, but that's just his word. He obviously had influences from Smallville. And the fact that it brought back one of the stupider parts of Superman's Pre-Crisis Origin (Lex growing up in Smallville) really pissed me off.

I'm sticking with Man of Steel and ignoring Birthright all-together.

06-08-2005, 08:52 PM	#1
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	Smallville In Movie Continunity? (Season Five Spoilers) According to Dark Horizons.com, Smallvilles' fifth season will contain hints and ties to Superman Returns, the ship that landed at the conclusion of "Commencment" will be the exact same ship Clark uses to depart Earth after Superman II ends (Superman Returns replaces III and IV in continunity), and the ship that he'll use to return in the movie. The occupant of the ship in the finale will also wear the black Kryptonian coustume often associated with Clark in the comics from time to time, and which he will ear in Superman Returns at the beggining of the film when he crash lands on the farm http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050608g.php ...How screwed up is this? __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

06-10-2005, 11:30 AM	#4
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	They Should Replace II as well...Two wasn't anything to scream about either. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

06-10-2005, 03:58 PM	#7
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	Because the current post-crisis Superman will be drasticlly different when Infinity Crisis wraps up, and might be closer in terms of premise to the retconned movie series I mean...Lex is now an insane criminal scientest in both mediums anyway now, theres' little to really seperate the two if you use that argument __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

06-09-2005, 07:31 PM	#2
Mandi-chan Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 932	I still haven't seen the movies yet, and stopped watching Smallville due to my increasing disappointments with it (plus it was up against "LOST", and there's no way I was turning that show down!). Is there something wrong with the news you posted? Is it out of the comics storylines or something? I'm in the dark when it comes to comics...

06-10-2005, 12:52 PM	#6
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	While I honestly thoguth Superman II was superior to the first one, I'm agreeing with Bart Allen on this. They should've just gone the Batman Begins route and started over from scratch. The original Superman movies are just too...dated by today's standards. Not only in special effects and appearance, but the fact that those movies were made pre-Crisis, before Superman got his reboot. The post-Crisis Superman is just so different from the pre-Crisis one, so why make a movie using that continuity? There's no point complaining, since what's done is done, but I still think it was a pretty bad idea. Especially since if they had just rebooted both franchises we could've ended up with a new DC film universe and possible cross-overs movies in the future.

06-16-2005, 03:56 PM	#9
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	God, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought "Birthright" sucked. I like "Smallville" well enough, but it's a damn TV show, and I hate when the comics (aka, the SOURCE MATERIAL) get changed just to accomodate a movie or TV show (aka, the CHEAP CASH-IN). Mark Waid's done some cool stuff, but "Birthright" pissed me off royally.