Explosions hit London!

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Robweiller

Methinks Londoners can feel much safer now, because attacks have already happpened there and won't repeat again soon. Al-Qaeda doesn't hit twice the same place in short time.
I'm afraid Warsaw is next on the list, or Sydney

Makes sence....who are the most know American Allies in the "War on Terror"? England, Poland, and Austrellia (spelled soooo wrong)

[Misfit]

I'm a Brit and I go to London all the time. I was only there a few weeks ago. Luckily everyone I know is safe, apart from one dude I know on another forum who has been unaccounted for since...so hopefully he's okay and just not going on the computer or something. It's un-nevering, but I think a lot of people expected this to happen here eventually (I know I did). It's not going to stop me from going to London or any other major city...I go where I want, when I want. I refuse to live in fear of these cowardly scum.

My heart goes out to anyone affected.

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by Robweiller

Al-Qaeda doesn't hit twice the same place in short time.

Has it been confirmed that it was the Al Qaida? I can't remember anyone confimring anything on the "who"-question.

Originally Posted by Jester

Austrellia

Australia

Originally Posted by Dinny

As for the theory that this happened because of the Olympics, that's highly unlikely. Nobody expected London to get the games, and an attack like this would have taken a long time to plan.

Well, but people knew that London was competing for the games. And they could have planned in advance sort of "If we get the games, we're going to blow up London". Have you never made a "In case"-plan?

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by Anarky

Has it been confirmed that it was the Al Qaida? I can't remember anyone confimring anything on the "who"-question.

Well... It wasn't. One of Al-Qaida's related groups claims on its website that they are responsible for London blasts, but they could be just bluffing as well, in order to gain some attention and free publicity.

There have been, however, two warnings addressed to Italy, formed by Al-Qaida's affiliated organizations: Read more here They want to destroy Rome, as a home to the Holy See.

Well, IMO that would make some of Nostradamus and St. Malachy's prophecies come true. Nostradamus wrote that Rome will be destroyed in flames coming from the sky (nukes? those bastards might steal or construct one) and St. Malachy said that after the next pope (the one following Benedictus XVI), called Peter Romanus, the papacy will move from Rome to some other place. Why should it move from Rome anyway? Maybe because there will be no Rome at that time...

<OK, I quit my sick interpretations>

@ Jester - Spain was also a big supporter of American foreign policy. Until the bloody days of March 2004...

EDIT: Awww, forgot to put one important comment on Al-Qaida's warnings - they never warn before their attacks, so I was kinda astonished they warn Italy now.

[Dinny]

Originally Posted by Anarky

Well, but people knew that London was competing for the games. And they could have planned in advance sort of "If we get the games, we're going to blow up London". Have you never made a "In case"-plan?

Yes that's possible, but as I said before, those who will be effected by the building of Olympic sites will be relocated to better homes. No one in London didn't want the Olympics. Also with these sort of things there's no backing out at the last minute, they take months of planning and I imagine they cost lots of money. So if Paris had won, they couldn't have simply not done it.
As you said Anarky, they were most likely planned to coincide woth the G8 meetings. Over 1/2 of London's police went to Endinburgh, so the city was as defenceless as it could be. The fact that London won the plympics the day before made it even more dramatic from a terrorists point of view.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Robweiller

@ Jester - Spain was also a big supporter of American foreign policy. Until the bloody days of March 2004...

I remember....And after the attack and a new administration Spain pulled out...i think they want England, Poland, Austraila (thanks Anarky ) to follow suit....

[damnhooligan]

Aww f*ck.

As of about 20 minutes ago (10pm GMT) police have ordered an evacuation of the city center of Birmingham, the UK's second largest city. They recieved intelligence regarding a potential bomb, rather than the usual "suspicious package" sort of stuff. Apparently, the police have been control detonating several items (probably boxes, backpacks etc) in the city centre.

Just... f*ck.

[Jester]

Any idea who this is??

[damnhooligan]

They're not releasing any information as to where they got their intelligence, but that's hardly expected of them at this point in time. No one's even sure there's any explosive devices in the area, but nevertheless, they're evacuating.

Let me be the first to say, evacuations f*cking suck. Even more so at night. Last year, I was evacuated from my apartment over half a dozen different times in six months. One was even on New Year's Eve.

When this is over, I think everyone owes Birmingham a pint.

EDIT: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8524232/ - A link to the story on MSNBC.

RE-EDIT: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...188565,00.html - The "bomb" was merely a box with wires sticking out and a switch, but the police defend their decision to evacuate the city.

[raphael_is_cool]

My mum's friend was telling me how a guy who lives a few doors away was actually on the bus that got blown up. He'd got off the stop before the guy set it off. He also said that he must've known who it was because he saw a guy with a bag looking shifty and fiddling inside it.

I don't know what this suicide bomber looked like. I still think Al-Queda are the most likely suspects. They're the most fanatical, enough to blow themselves up, and the same sort of approach has been used by them several times before. Screw moonwalk analyses.

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by raphael_is_cool

I don't know what this suicide bomber looked like. I still think Al-Queda are the most likely suspects. They're the most fanatical, enough to blow themselves up, and the same sort of approach has been used by them several times before. Screw moonwalk analyses.

Name three radical terrorist groups, their level of fanaticism and their "specialities" in trems of attack.

The reason why everybody goes "It was Al Qaida!" is that you hear most about them. It's not like they're the best, the strongest, the richest or anything, but they're just the most popular.

And the "Moonwalk-analysis" is quite accurate. I mean, how hard is it to blow yourself up? Push button, boom, end. Sure, it needs a strong mind to actually do that, but everyone can do this, it's nothing restricted to Al Qaida. Even children can do that, as you sometimes can see in the gaza-strip.

[raphael_is_cool]

Evidence seems to suggest Al-Queda is the most likely suspect. When you don't have anything definite to go on you look at the most likely culprit, judging by past experience. I've never heard of the IRA with suicide bombers.

If a terrorist group finds a method for getting their message across they're most likely going to use it again.

[Anarky]

Originally Posted by raphael_is_cool

Evidence seems to suggest Al-Queda is the most likely suspect. When you don't have anything definite to go on you look at the most likely culprit, judging by past experience. I've never heard of the IRA with suicide bombers.

You do know, that not only Al Qaeda has suicide bombers, right?

And of course people are looking in the direction of Al Qaeda, they're probably also looking in the direction of the IRA. But the apparent suspects (not the word "suspect", it doesn't mean that it was them) are suspected to have connections to Al Qaeda.

How the hell do you spell Al Qaeda anyways?

If a terrorist group finds a method for getting their message across they're most likely going to use it again.

Or they change it in order to reach the goal of the mission. I mean, I had great success writing letters on my computer, but from time to time, when I feel it's more useful, I write with my handwriting.

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by raphael_is_cool

I've never heard of the IRA with suicide bombers.

Innovation is the key factor to all progress and development.

[raphael_is_cool]

Well, bottom line is:

You're a terrorist, you want to create terror and get your agenda/message across. If people then start saying it was someone else to blame you're gonna think of it as a failure.

So, while there have been similar bombing threats by Al Queda groups (I remember one in Leicester back in December) it seems they're following the same course of action.

I'm not saying without a doubt it was Al Queda but while they're the main suspect there's nothing to deny it. Terrorists would claim an event like this if it was not clear who it was. The goal isn't just to anonymously kill and injure many people during rush hour.

[Sewer Bull]

It's just occured to me that this year will be exactly the 400th anniversary of the Gunpowder Plot. I hope no one will try to succeed in field Guy Fawkes failed on 5th November 1605...

[Anarky]

Well, Scotland Yard apparently has made some... stuff. Well, they did a lot of work in the past few days. But yesterday, they did something really useful. They now know who the people were and khow they did it.

Apparently it was some Paqistanis with backpacks full of explosives who went all suicide-bomber.

And SY managed to arrest a brother of one of the bombers.

Great, I hope he talks. And hopefully he won't go all "We're the Al Qaida and sh*t"

[NightwatchersOnlygirl]

All those poor people on the tube trains and the 30 bus

[damnhooligan]

What the Christ!

More explosions in London as of today. 3 tube explosions, one bus. They don't seem to be as destructive as the last ones with only a couple injuries reported so far, but if I was in London (and weirdly enough, I was scheduled to in Surrey today but canceled my plans after the first bombings) I'd be pissed as hell.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...189833,00.html

[ZariusTwo]

They were small scale at least, probably to warn us there going to keep coming...and in much bigger quantities