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Old 08-03-2005, 11:01 AM   #21
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If they were to do a Ghostbusters 3, I think the best solution is to get at least some of the returning characters, But this time, They are training a new generation of Ghostbusters?
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Old 08-03-2005, 12:37 PM   #22
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Exactly what I think. Screw a remake, make a new cartoon. Have it more like the earlier RGB episodes, only darker. Maybe have the guys smoke (I dunno if they would allow that on kiddie network blocks or not.) and have multiple-episode arcs instead of standard one episode forumulas.
Pretty much, sans the smoking thing (88MPH caught Hell for putting cigarettes in theit miniseries, if you can believe that).

I wouldn't mind it being something aimmed at a Toonami timeslot. It doesn't have to be a hardcore HBO miniseries. Adult-oriented cartoons tend to fail in America unless they're anime or a poorly animated comedy show on Adult Swim.

A Ghostbusters toon can still be dark AND aimmed at kids. You just have to know your boundaries and not get gratuitous for the sake of it. Real Ghostbusters was great when it came to creepiness.

"Knock Knock"

An entire trainload of people die and come back as zombies when the lights flicker on and off. Lost souls are seen rowing a boat out of Hell with Death as their Captain.

"The GHostbusters in Paris"

Tourist's Wife: Look, honey! There's a man in period clothing!

Tourist: Excuse me, sir, would you mind posing or a picture with my wife?

Ghost: Why certainly, just be sure to get me from my *face melts off, revealing a gorey skull* Good side!!

"Partners in Slime"

A ghostly elevator operator lifts up his hat but his head comes off with it. His skull then slides out of his skin and plops on his gaping neck.


Stuff like that. They just replaced the blood with slime and it was all okay. I mean, look at kid's programming today. There aren't any supernatural cartoons on anymore. Just animes based on card games. And Martin Mystery doesn't count because it sucks.

And in regards to multiparter, the genius thing about Real Ghostbusters that kept the show so fresh for all those years was that it was completely episodic. The Ghostbusters faced a new challenge every episode which kept things original and creative. In TMNT the turtles always fought Shredder, in Transformers the Autobots always fought the Decepticons, in GI Joe the good guys always fougth Cobra, etc. In Real Ghostbusters you never knew WHAT they were going to fight next episode. It was always a surprise. And the most popular villains got to make comebacks every now and then (though, admittedly, not enough since writers had a Hell of a time figuring out ways for the ghosts to escape the contianment unit).

I do agree that there should be some multi part stories. Did you know that there wasn't a single multi parter in all of the Real Ghostbsuters' 6 seasons? Extreme Ghostbusters managed to have 2, though; the series premiere and the series finale.
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:52 PM   #23
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Pretty much, sans the smoking thing (88MPH caught Hell for putting cigarettes in theit miniseries, if you can believe that).
That's...odd...next thing y'know, parents will go after Mr. Fantastic for smoking a pipe in the early Kirby/Lee days.

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I wouldn't mind it being something aimmed at a Toonami timeslot. It doesn't have to be a hardcore HBO miniseries. Adult-oriented cartoons tend to fail in America unless they're anime or a poorly animated comedy show on Adult Swim.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't want it to be adult-oriented. I just want it to be handled maturely, like the early RGB episodes.

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A Ghostbusters toon can still be dark AND aimmed at kids. You just have to know your boundaries and not get gratuitous for the sake of it. Real Ghostbusters was great when it came to creepiness.
Not to mention kinda scary for the younger crowd.

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"Knock Knock"

An entire trainload of people die and come back as zombies when the lights flicker on and off. Lost souls are seen rowing a boat out of Hell with Death as their Captain.
Y'know...I never noticed that all the people on the train were killed. Knock Knock is definitley one of my favorite episodes though.

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Tourist's Wife: Look, honey! There's a man in period clothing!

Tourist: Excuse me, sir, would you mind posing or a picture with my wife?

Ghost: Why certainly, just be sure to get me from my *face melts off, revealing a gorey skull* Good side!!
I actually just saw this episode recently and that scene shocked the hell out of me. I couldn't believe they got away with that.

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"Partners in Slime"

A ghostly elevator operator lifts up his hat but his head comes off with it. His skull then slides out of his skin and plops on his gaping neck.
Not as shocking as GB in Paris, still kinda gross.

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Stuff like that. They just replaced the blood with slime and it was all okay. I mean, look at kid's programming today. There aren't any supernatural cartoons on anymore. Just animes based on card games. And Martin Mystery doesn't count because it sucks.
Thank. God. Someone else hates that horrible anime rip-off.

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And in regards to multiparter, the genius thing about Real Ghostbusters that kept the show so fresh for all those years was that it was completely episodic. The Ghostbusters faced a new challenge every episode which kept things original and creative. In TMNT the turtles always fought Shredder, in Transformers the Autobots always fought the Decepticons, in GI Joe the good guys always fougth Cobra, etc. In Real Ghostbusters you never knew WHAT they were going to fight next episode. It was always a surprise. And the most popular villains got to make comebacks every now and then (though, admittedly, not enough since writers had a Hell of a time figuring out ways for the ghosts to escape the contianment unit).
It's just that I wish that there'd be a two or even three-parter once in awhile to break up the single episode stories.

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I do agree that there should be some multi part stories. Did you know that there wasn't a single multi parter in all of the Real Ghostbsuters' 6 seasons? Extreme Ghostbusters managed to have 2, though; the series premiere and the series finale.
Yeah, I always found that odd. Even the old TMNT had multi-part episodes. And wasn't the "series finale" originally going to lead the RGBs working with EGBs for the rest of the series? (If it wasn't cancelled.) Still, it was nice seeing the guys again, even if Dave Couiler did Peter's voice. (R.I.P. Lorenzo Music...)
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Old 08-03-2005, 02:58 PM   #24
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Pretty much, sans the smoking thing (88MPH caught Hell for putting cigarettes in theit miniseries, if you can believe that).

I wouldn't mind it being something aimmed at a Toonami timeslot. It doesn't have to be a hardcore HBO miniseries. Adult-oriented cartoons tend to fail in America unless they're anime or a poorly animated comedy show on Adult Swim.

A Ghostbusters toon can still be dark AND aimmed at kids. You just have to know your boundaries and not get gratuitous for the sake of it. Real Ghostbusters was great when it came to creepiness.

"Knock Knock"

An entire trainload of people die and come back as zombies when the lights flicker on and off. Lost souls are seen rowing a boat out of Hell with Death as their Captain.

"The GHostbusters in Paris"

Tourist's Wife: Look, honey! There's a man in period clothing!

Tourist: Excuse me, sir, would you mind posing or a picture with my wife?

Ghost: Why certainly, just be sure to get me from my *face melts off, revealing a gorey skull* Good side!!

"Partners in Slime"

A ghostly elevator operator lifts up his hat but his head comes off with it. His skull then slides out of his skin and plops on his gaping neck.


Stuff like that. They just replaced the blood with slime and it was all okay. I mean, look at kid's programming today. There aren't any supernatural cartoons on anymore. Just animes based on card games. And Martin Mystery doesn't count because it sucks.

And in regards to multiparter, the genius thing about Real Ghostbusters that kept the show so fresh for all those years was that it was completely episodic. The Ghostbusters faced a new challenge every episode which kept things original and creative. In TMNT the turtles always fought Shredder, in Transformers the Autobots always fought the Decepticons, in GI Joe the good guys always fougth Cobra, etc. In Real Ghostbusters you never knew WHAT they were going to fight next episode. It was always a surprise. And the most popular villains got to make comebacks every now and then (though, admittedly, not enough since writers had a Hell of a time figuring out ways for the ghosts to escape the contianment unit).

I do agree that there should be some multi part stories. Did you know that there wasn't a single multi parter in all of the Real Ghostbsuters' 6 seasons? Extreme Ghostbusters managed to have 2, though; the series premiere and the series finale.
That was a very good reply, Dr. Spengler.. In fact I believe I would buy the real ghostbusters dvd if they ever release one..
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Old 08-03-2005, 03:10 PM   #25
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Well, the DVD sold quite a few copies at my local K-Mart (There was only three left.) and if that's the case everywhere else it might show Sony that there is still interest in this franchise.

But then again, these are the same people who made xXx-2.
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Old 08-04-2005, 08:33 PM   #26
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I wouldn't mind it being something aimmed at a Toonami timeslot. It doesn't have to be a hardcore HBO miniseries. Adult-oriented cartoons tend to fail in America unless they're anime or a poorly animated comedy show on Adult Swim.
Actually, I think an Adult Ghostbusters cartoon would do well if done right. We're the generation (I'm assuming you're 20-something) that watches adult cartoons. If they based it directly off the movies and had the character's look like hand-drawn versions of their movie counter-parts, with maybe a touch of resemblence to their old-cartoon selves. They could continue it where the movies left off, essentually making this series Ghostbusters 3. It could have a format simular to Ghost In The Shell: SAC in that it would have episodes to tie in to a big epic plotline and one-shot episodes intermixed. I think it would do well on Adult Swim's action-block with all the anime shows.

It wouldn't have to be any darker than the movies, and I think a TV-14 rated show would be ideal. And, they shouldn't forget the humor. GB is suppossed to be a comedy-horror-adventure show. Venkman MUST be a smartass.

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A Ghostbusters toon can still be dark AND aimmed at kids. You just have to know your boundaries and not get gratuitous for the sake of it. Real Ghostbusters was great when it came to creepiness.
Well, a decent kids version like we had in the 80s would be the next best thing.

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Stuff like that. They just replaced the blood with slime and it was all okay. I mean, look at kid's programming today. There aren't any supernatural cartoons on anymore. Just animes based on card games. And Martin Mystery doesn't count because it sucks.
Well, there IS Shaman King. I happen to love Shaman King (the original manga much more than the anime adaptation), and while there is a card-game (f**king EVERYTHING has a card-game) the manga came first.

There's also "Danny Phantom", but it's kinda "eh".

Also, the Yu-Gi-Oh manga came first, then the card-game, THEN the anime. THAT'S the problem. The manga was very dark and supernatural, probably right up your alley. Then they made the card-game, and not being into those I can't tell you if it is good or not, but when they made the anime, they based it off the card game! And, it sucks, really bad!

But what really sucks is that nobody will try out the manga because the anime (a half-hour commercial for the game) sucks so bad. When they have nothing in common. BTW a Yu-Gi-Oh TV show based on the manga would have to be on Adult Swim or the action channel.

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Old 08-06-2005, 03:28 PM   #27
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Man, I'd be happy if they would do anything with the Ghostbusters. They should. That property has so many possabilities, much like the TMNT or Dracula, the potential is classicaly endless. I'd settle for a new TMNT game. But no matter what, It has to be done well. First and foremost, It's quality should be as good as possible. But what do I know? I liked Shaun of the Dead too.
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Old 08-06-2005, 03:36 PM   #28
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Exactly what I think. Screw a remake, make a new cartoon. Have it more like the earlier RGB episodes, only darker. Maybe have the guys smoke (I dunno if they would allow that on kiddie network blocks or not.) and have multiple-episode arcs instead of standard one episode forumulas.

...also have Slimer (Onionhead) be evil again, like in the first movie.
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Old 08-07-2005, 06:18 PM   #29
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...also have Slimer (Onionhead) be evil again, like in the first movie.
Yes. He was one of the reasons why the show went downhill. Damn ABC execs....
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Old 08-08-2005, 05:17 PM   #30
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Yes. He was one of the reasons why the show went downhill. Damn ABC execs....

oh and don't forget the "Soccer Moms". They also wanted the show changed..
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Old 08-08-2005, 05:37 PM   #31
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oh and don't forget the "Soccer Moms". They also wanted the show changed..
I hate Soccer Moms! What did they do to Ghostbusters?
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Because the Great Ghost vs. Soccer Moms War of '98.....so many needless lives taken
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I say let it be and people can remember it the way it was rather than fu*k it up as you know they will. Remakes should die.
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Remakes should die? Why, then we wouldn't have the new TMNT toon!
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Or "The Fly" with Goldblum. Remakes can sometimes make things better. as long as you got the right crew.

But ALL remakes get bashed for some reason or another. They could remake Plan 9 and people would get pissed
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I have no problems with remakes...in moderation. The current volumn of remakes being churned out these days is astonishing. Regardless of quality, it does show a lack of originality on Hollywood's part. I'd like to see a purely original movie every once in a while. I can't remember the last movie I saw in theaters that wasn't based on an existing property (I think it was Boogeyman, honestly).

There are plenty of good remakes out there.

The Fly
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (Greggory Peck version)
Dawn of the Dead
Night of the Living Dead
Texas Chainsaw Massacre

List goes on. The originals will always be there and they'll always be good. The remakes don't devalue them no matter how good or bad they may be.

No, my problem is the principle of the remake flood we're getting today. Is Hollywood THAT creatively bankrupt, or are they just forcing more popular trends down our throats? I'd say both.
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Or "The Fly" with Goldblum. Remakes can sometimes make things better. as long as you got the right crew.

But ALL remakes get bashed for some reason or another. They could remake Plan 9 and people would get pissed
Plan 9 from Outer Space? What's there to remake. That movie hardly had a plot and half of it made no sense at all. Man that was a bad movie haha but still not as bad as Glen or Glenda. Ugh Bride of the Monster was horrible too...Oh them Ed Wood movies. That crazy crazy cross dresser.
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Remakes should die? Why, then we wouldn't have the new TMNT toon!
Meh, good point. Guess I can't generalize so much.
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Well in all fairness the new TMNT show is not a remake. If it was a remake of the old show then it would have similar plot lines and the same characters. Which is doesn't, and it's not a goofy comedy show. Even the comic book issues they used are heavily tweaked. So you can't really call it a remake. But I agree some remakes are good...but most of them suck. Kind of like sequels.
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