Best Ninja Turtle Of All Time - Page 14

*Weapon X* · 08-21-2005, 04:06 PM

Indeed, you can only imagine what would have been said, in the day's of the OS.

"Remember dude's never drink and drive, get a pizza instead".

And then they would all laugh.

**Jo Dawn** · 08-21-2005, 04:09 PM

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Besides, it's not like all these cartoons coming to life is 100% effective anyway - Michael probably just thinks he's tripping out.

Hehehe... that was funny...

Jaf · 08-21-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Space Lieutenant Josh

I'm thinking these anti-drug commercials and specials would all be super hilarious on drugs.

They are. But doesn't beat Secret of the Ooze. Oy! Ninja rap on speed always does it.

*Weapon X* · 08-21-2005, 07:45 PM

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They are. But doesn't beat Secret of the Ooze. Oy! Ninja rap on speed always does it.

This whole time I've been freaking out watching it without taking anything.

*Sage Ninja* · 08-22-2005, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kali

Yeah. I think many people (myself included) sometimes judge intelligence based on personality traits, when personality really has little to no correlation with intelligence. I mean, some people might think Mikey’s not so smart because he’s a goof, but his quick thinking and creative problem solving show otherwise. I think Raph’s a “quick-thinker”, too, whereas Don and Leo probably spend more time thinking and rethinking out solutions. Both have their pros and cons, of course. I mean, Leo’s definitely intelligent, yet he’s been tricked and manipulated by both Saki and Karai.

I don't think Leonardo being tricked or manipulated by Saki or that bitch Karai has anything to do with Leonardo's intelligence. I think it stems from him being young and inexperience and perhaps a little niave. there are many different kinds of smarts and I.Q tests only aqunowledge a very narrow tiny and culturally based percent of it. In other words they are not abusoultly accurate. I could score low on one form of intelligence and yet have a much higher and more devleped ranch of intelligence in another area.

Leonardo is very smart and I agree that in some areas he is even smarter than Donatello. And I'm not just saying this becuase I like Leonardo. Leonardo was tricked because he doesn't have enough experience with people, and how could he he is a freak of nature and can't mingle with people to much so his intelligence "social" intelligence can't delvelop very well unless he is exposed to it. So no Leonardo being manipulated really has no bearing on his intelligence.

The same could be said for Michaelangelo in the classic toon. I've been looking at all the figures that alot of people are throughing out and on his I.Q and the comments that have been made regarding classic toon Michaelangelo's intelligence and how he is, basically a simpleton.

I'm not being biased here but Classic toon Michaelangelo is probably the most persecuted version of Michaelangelo as far as intelligence goes, and seems to be seen as the "dumbest" version of him. Which is actually really not true. I never really saw a whole lot about him that made him a simpton, unless you consider his buthering of the english language with his catch lingo to be a sign or idiocacy

In the old toon I thought he wasn't quite the dummy that Raphael and the others where always making him out to be. And thats just it, the things that Raphael and the others where always picking on him for really didn't match is actions very well. I think classic toon Michaelangelo is just as smart as the other turtles in the old toon, I think he is just as intelligent as Mikey in the New toon, whom of which I feel is actually very clever and intelligent. Both Michaelngelo's just have a hiden intelligence that they hide from every one else. We discussed in another thread about Mikey in the New toon dilberealy hidding his intelligents and smarts from the others becuase he was afraid to be "as good" or "better" than his brothers, and that he wanted to, more or less keep peace among the team. Well I think the same certainly applies for classic toon Michaelangelo as well. He is in fact a heck of a lot smarter and compentant than what he lets on. and I think his klutz attacks are just a front or an act to keep peace in the group.

But then he is moslty portrayed as being the dummy of the group in most mediums just to get a few laughs. And that i feel is probably one of the biggest injustices that the writters has done to Michaelangelo's character in most mediums. The try so hard to make him the comic relief that they go and butcher his intellegence. And I don't feel that is fair to his character. I don't think Eastman and Laird attenede him to be portrayed as some bubbling idiot. Even if was the supposed "funny turtle" in the group.

Space Lieutenant Josh · 08-22-2005, 12:54 AM

That's really interesting, Sage Ninja.

I definitely agree with everything you said, but the stuff about Mikey is the most intriguing to me. It seems to me that Leo and Mike are both very intelligent and good at ninjitsu, but for different reasons. Leo hones his skills for the intrinsic motivation of being the best he can be, to set an example of unadulterated focus. Mike, while less focused specifically on ninjitsu (he is into many other unrelated things), seems to enjoy getting better at ninjitsu so that he can have fun with it and show off (still a worthy motivation). Raph and Don are a little less clear to me. I'd say Raph wants to achieve his own means and be the best at what he does, and Don I would assume, since he prefers technology anyway but is still very skilled at ninjitsu, learns the martial arts to achieve self-defense. Being an engineer, I'm sure the fields of physics and martial arts work back and forth into each other in his mind, as well.

*Sage Ninja* · 08-22-2005, 01:05 AM

yes well I do think that out all the Michaelangelo's that Mike fromthe classic toon is probably seen as the most "dumbed down version" and crappiest fighter. And Like I said above I believe that he is smart and clever but never given credit or acknowledgement for it, because he is always being put down in some way. I just think the others in the old toon liked to pick on him and take apart his intellegence becuase they had nothing elese better to do.

I think with Michaelangelo in the classic series (well it still impliew in the new one as well) is that he tends to get neverous when the focus is on him and he messes up or says the wrong thing and people see him as a moron.

NeoBix · 08-22-2005, 01:34 PM

Mikey is a pothead! lol

actually Corey Feldman who did Donny's voice in the 1st and 3rd movies was a pothead and he had a serious problem with marijuana. that's why he wasn't in the 2nd movie. cuz he was in rehab or something.

*Weapon X* · 08-22-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NeoBix

Mikey is a pothead! lol

actually Corey Feldman who did Donny's voice in the 1st and 3rd movies was a pothead and he had a serious problem with marijuana. that's why he wasn't in the 2nd movie. cuz he was in rehab or something.

Yep, I was never sure exactley why he wasn't in Ooze, until I watched something on him, True Hollywood story or something.

*zkarlette* · 08-22-2005, 01:47 PM

Mikey is not a pothead.... he just gets hyper when he drinks cappucino..

*Weapon X* · 08-22-2005, 01:54 PM

But If you had to pick one, he'd be it.

*zkarlette* · 08-22-2005, 02:01 PM

Why cause he laughs a lot??

*Weapon X* · 08-22-2005, 02:01 PM

No, he just seems like he could be.

*zkarlette* · 08-22-2005, 02:03 PM

Well... hes not

Maybe Rocksteady and Bepop are...

*Weapon X* · 08-22-2005, 02:04 PM

Jeez Z, it's a joke, Mikey isn't a pot head in any TMNT medium, ok.

*zkarlette* · 08-22-2005, 02:05 PM

I wasnt mad weapon

you should know by now

*Weapon X* · 08-22-2005, 02:07 PM

Yeah, but I thought it sounded like a good thing to post.

*zkarlette* · 08-22-2005, 02:12 PM

What were we supposed to be talking about??

*Weapon X* · 08-22-2005, 02:13 PM

WTF, this thread is about "Best Turtle", wow we did stray away from that.

*Sewer Bull* · 08-22-2005, 02:13 PM

"Teenage Mutant Pothead Turtles", well...

View Poll Results: Who Is The Best Ninja Turtle Of All Time?
Leonardo	37	29.37%
Raphael	35	27.78%
Michaelangelo	28	22.22%
Donatello	26	20.63%
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08-22-2005, 01:34 PM	#268
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	Mikey is a pothead! lol actually Corey Feldman who did Donny's voice in the 1st and 3rd movies was a pothead and he had a serious problem with marijuana. that's why he wasn't in the 2nd movie. cuz he was in rehab or something. __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"

08-22-2005, 01:47 PM	#270
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	Mikey is not a pothead.... he just gets hyper when he drinks cappucino.. __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

08-22-2005, 02:01 PM	#272
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	Why cause he laughs a lot?? __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

08-22-2005, 02:03 PM	#274
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	Well... hes not Maybe Rocksteady and Bepop are... __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

08-21-2005, 04:06 PM	#261
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	Indeed, you can only imagine what would have been said, in the day's of the OS. "Remember dude's never drink and drive, get a pizza instead". And then they would all laugh.

08-22-2005, 12:54 AM	#266
Space Lieutenant Josh Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Village of Rock'n Kick-Ass Posts: 492	That's really interesting, Sage Ninja. I definitely agree with everything you said, but the stuff about Mikey is the most intriguing to me. It seems to me that Leo and Mike are both very intelligent and good at ninjitsu, but for different reasons. Leo hones his skills for the intrinsic motivation of being the best he can be, to set an example of unadulterated focus. Mike, while less focused specifically on ninjitsu (he is into many other unrelated things), seems to enjoy getting better at ninjitsu so that he can have fun with it and show off (still a worthy motivation). Raph and Don are a little less clear to me. I'd say Raph wants to achieve his own means and be the best at what he does, and Don I would assume, since he prefers technology anyway but is still very skilled at ninjitsu, learns the martial arts to achieve self-defense. Being an engineer, I'm sure the fields of physics and martial arts work back and forth into each other in his mind, as well.

08-22-2005, 01:05 AM	#267
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	yes well I do think that out all the Michaelangelo's that Mike fromthe classic toon is probably seen as the most "dumbed down version" and crappiest fighter. And Like I said above I believe that he is smart and clever but never given credit or acknowledgement for it, because he is always being put down in some way. I just think the others in the old toon liked to pick on him and take apart his intellegence becuase they had nothing elese better to do. I think with Michaelangelo in the classic series (well it still impliew in the new one as well) is that he tends to get neverous when the focus is on him and he messes up or says the wrong thing and people see him as a moron.

08-22-2005, 01:54 PM	#271
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	But If you had to pick one, he'd be it.

08-22-2005, 02:01 PM	#273
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	No, he just seems like he could be.

08-22-2005, 02:04 PM	#275
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	Jeez Z, it's a joke, Mikey isn't a pot head in any TMNT medium, ok.

08-22-2005, 02:05 PM	#276
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	I wasnt mad weapon you should know by now __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

08-22-2005, 02:07 PM	#277
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	Yeah, but I thought it sounded like a good thing to post.

08-22-2005, 02:12 PM	#278
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	What were we supposed to be talking about?? __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

08-22-2005, 02:13 PM	#279
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	WTF, this thread is about "Best Turtle", wow we did stray away from that.

08-22-2005, 02:13 PM	#280
Sewer Bull Devil's Advocate Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,768	"Teenage Mutant Pothead Turtles", well... __________________ Soooo... THIS* is how you spend your free time now?!*