why do you think...

Dragnskull · 09-07-2005, 01:37 PM

how come they changed it from TGRI (the movies) to TCRI (the new cartoon)?

i mean its such a small change, but at the same time a big one...

also, does anyone know what TGRI and/or TCRI stand for?

*XERO* · 09-07-2005, 03:06 PM

I don't know why they really changed it. I guess because of copyright issues.

TGRI: Techno Global Research Industry

TCRI: Techno Cosmic Research Institute

Jaf · 09-07-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragnskull

how come they changed it from TGRI (the movies) to TCRI (the new cartoon)?

i mean its such a small change, but at the same time a big one...

also, does anyone know what TGRI and/or TCRI stand for?

TGRI = Techno-Global Research Industries
TCRI = Techno-Cosmic Research Institute

In fact, «TCRI» was the original name, taken from the 1984-1985 Mirage vol.1 TMNT comics. The new toon is based on that comic, so they took back the real name. I guess they changed the «C» for a «G» in Secret of the Ooze because the Utroms were taken out of the origin story (in an early script draft, prof Jordon Perry was supposed to reveal himself to be an Utrom, but the idea was scrapped). Without the Utrom reference (they're aliens from outter space), the word «Cosmic» would probably have been confusing for the audience.

**Nturtle** · 09-07-2005, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaf

(in an early script draft, prof Jordon Perry was supposed to reveal himself to be an Utrom, but the idea was scrapped).

I've heard that before, but is there any way to actually prove it?

*Weapon X* · 09-07-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nturtle

I've heard that before, but is there any way to actually prove it?

There will be soon, a guy on the forums is supposed to be getting the script so, only time will tell.

Serp · 09-07-2005, 04:30 PM

Live action Utroms would have been creepy, and to see it in a dudes chest would have have been creepier.

*DrSpengler* · 09-07-2005, 04:35 PM

And certainly wouldn't have meshed well with the overly childish tone of Secret of the Ooze.

Hannurdock · 09-07-2005, 06:44 PM

TGRI sounds more ... believable, from a corporate perspective. Going cosmic would have opened a can of worms. Or a can of ooze.

Hannurdock

*Deathknight* · 09-09-2005, 10:58 PM

I would just want to see a pic of what a live action Utrom would've looked like.

TheShowstoppa · 09-10-2005, 09:05 AM

I.... WANT.... A.... COPY.... OF.... THAT.... SCRIPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I want to read an original draft. I do wish, however, that the original movie also had a script to screen DVD-Rom option! I guess I'll just have to wait until late 2006 to early 2007 for the Infinifilm DVD of TMNT. (Note: This is just wishful thinking, there is no official word that there is going to be an Ultimate Edition or INfinifilm DVD to date.)

OA · 09-10-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaf

in Secret of the Ooze because the Utroms were taken out of the origin story (in an early script draft, prof Jordon Perry was supposed to reveal himself to be an Utrom, but the idea was scrapped).

Wow, I had no idea about that....pretty cool...wonder why it got scrapped...

*Weapon X* · 09-10-2005, 11:56 AM

It could be many reasons, but most notable is probably If they were going to they couldn't get em to look right.

OA · 09-10-2005, 12:00 PM

I dunno..they had Henson's crew working the movie...I'm sure they coulda came up with something pretty cool...but who knows..

*Weapon X* · 09-10-2005, 12:02 PM

Exactlry, but it's funny to think of what they would have looked like, by the great job they did with the TMNT, Tokka and Rahzar, either way it would have been cool to see live action versions or rather version considering only Perry would have revealed himself to be one.

*Coola Yagami* · 09-10-2005, 08:20 PM

Also at the time, everybody would be wondering what the hell Krang was doing inside some old dude...

OA · 09-10-2005, 08:53 PM

heh heh...very true...i would be in that group as at the time of release i was only into the toon and toys...didnt even know that the comics exsisted...

Jaf · 09-11-2005, 06:17 PM

Another funny-but-mostly-unknown-fact : at first, the producers wanted to put Bebop and Rocksteady as the new mutants, in order to please even more the cartoon lovin' kids. Eastman and Laird had to put all their copyrighted weight to scrap this idea, as they wanted the films to be at least slightly reminiscent of the comic universe (There's a place where Laird speaks about it, but I really don't remember where...). I don't think that first concept was ever put on a script draft though.

*Jephael* · 09-16-2005, 04:49 PM

The Utrom idea was scrapped because at the time everyone would've assumed that it was Krang.

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Originally Posted by The Creeper

Live action Utroms would have been creepy, and to see it in a dudes chest would have have been creepier.

Haven't you ever seen the movie Men In Black?

TheShowstoppa · 09-17-2005, 05:03 PM

Men in Black came out in 1997 (if I'm not mistaken). TMNT II came out in 1991... six years is enough to let kids grow up a little. Besides, most kids around that time were not familiar with the comics and Krang not being evil in this movie would have been VERY odd for a lot of them.

OA · 09-17-2005, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaf

Another funny-but-mostly-unknown-fact : at first, the producers wanted to put Bebop and Rocksteady as the new mutants, in order to please even more the cartoon lovin' kids. Eastman and Laird had to put all their copyrighted weight to scrap this idea, as they wanted the films to be at least slightly reminiscent of the comic universe (There's a place where Laird speaks about it, but I really don't remember where...). I don't think that first concept was ever put on a script draft though.

Now that woulda been a change of events....I woulda loved it since I was a kid back then and huge Bebop/rock fan...

09-07-2005, 01:37 PM	#1
Dragnskull Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Humble, Texas Posts: 766	why do you think... how come they changed it from TGRI (the movies) to TCRI (the new cartoon)? i mean its such a small change, but at the same time a big one... also, does anyone know what TGRI and/or TCRI stand for?

09-07-2005, 03:06 PM	#2
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	I don't know why they really changed it. I guess because of copyright issues. TGRI: Techno Global Research Industry TCRI: Techno Cosmic Research Institute __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

09-07-2005, 06:44 PM	#8
Hannurdock Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, England Posts: 236	TGRI sounds more ... believable, from a corporate perspective. Going cosmic would have opened a can of worms. Or a can of ooze. Hannurdock __________________ *Try to be like the turtle ... at ease in your own shell.*

09-09-2005, 10:58 PM	#9
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	I would just want to see a pic of what a live action Utrom would've looked like. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

09-10-2005, 09:05 AM	#10
TheShowstoppa Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 629	I.... WANT.... A.... COPY.... OF.... THAT.... SCRIPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, I want to read an original draft. I do wish, however, that the original movie also had a script to screen DVD-Rom option! I guess I'll just have to wait until late 2006 to early 2007 for the Infinifilm DVD of TMNT. (Note: This is just wishful thinking, there is no official word that there is going to be an Ultimate Edition or INfinifilm DVD to date.) __________________ Courtesy of LUCKFF "I don't know what bothers me more; That this actually worked, or that Don carries around a pigeon puppet." - Mikey: Search for Splinter Pt. 1

09-07-2005, 04:30 PM	#6
Serp Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 362	Live action Utroms would have been creepy, and to see it in a dudes chest would have have been creepier.

09-07-2005, 04:35 PM	#7
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	And certainly wouldn't have meshed well with the overly childish tone of Secret of the Ooze.

09-10-2005, 11:56 AM	#12
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	It could be many reasons, but most notable is probably If they were going to they couldn't get em to look right.

09-10-2005, 12:00 PM	#13
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	I dunno..they had Henson's crew working the movie...I'm sure they coulda came up with something pretty cool...but who knows.. __________________

09-10-2005, 12:02 PM	#14
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	Exactlry, but it's funny to think of what they would have looked like, by the great job they did with the TMNT, Tokka and Rahzar, either way it would have been cool to see live action versions or rather version considering only Perry would have revealed himself to be one.

09-10-2005, 08:20 PM	#15
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	Also at the time, everybody would be wondering what the hell Krang was doing inside some old dude...

09-10-2005, 08:53 PM	#16
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	heh heh...very true...i would be in that group as at the time of release i was only into the toon and toys...didnt even know that the comics exsisted... __________________

09-11-2005, 06:17 PM	#17
Jaf Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2005 Location: Montréal (Québec) Posts: 106	Another funny-but-mostly-unknown-fact : at first, the producers wanted to put Bebop and Rocksteady as the new mutants, in order to please even more the cartoon lovin' kids. Eastman and Laird had to put all their copyrighted weight to scrap this idea, as they wanted the films to be at least slightly reminiscent of the comic universe (There's a place where Laird speaks about it, but I really don't remember where...). I don't think that first concept was ever put on a script draft though.

09-17-2005, 05:03 PM	#19
TheShowstoppa Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 629	Men in Black came out in 1997 (if I'm not mistaken). TMNT II came out in 1991... six years is enough to let kids grow up a little. Besides, most kids around that time were not familiar with the comics and Krang not being evil in this movie would have been VERY odd for a lot of them. __________________ Courtesy of LUCKFF "I don't know what bothers me more; That this actually worked, or that Don carries around a pigeon puppet." - Mikey: Search for Splinter Pt. 1