The TMNT and Christmas

**Jester** · 12-05-2005, 12:07 AM

Howdy all, Jester here.
Since the holiday/Christmas season is upon us I thought about our 4 favorite genetically unique teripans and wondered how or even if they'd celebrate Christmas. I know the guys are American, but they are also taught by a rat who happens to have a strong working in Japanese culture and probably religion. It's not to far of a stretch to say that the Hamato Clan is Buddhist, who wouldn't celebrate Christmas. I know the New Toon has them celebrating, and heck maybe the comics...so this may be a moot point...but heck that's why there's the "how do they celebrate" premiss, too....What do you get the man-rat that has everything?

**GK Punk** · 12-05-2005, 12:11 AM

Er... they do celebrate Christmas in Japan aswell

*Sage Ninja* · 12-05-2005, 12:16 AM

in the classic cartoon setting I don't don't think the turtles actually practice a religion and just follow traditions that Hamata Yoshi follows, which appear to be rather spiraitualist in the Buddhist catergory judging by how Splinter seems to act.

Also I believe that Master Splinter never established a form of religion for the green machine, and left them instead follw media refrences, and probably have a form of Christmas but I doubt that they are talking about Baby Jesus and the three wise men. I think if they do celebrate Chistmas they just celebrate the comercialised version of it...not the relgious aspect of it.

**Jester** · 12-05-2005, 12:20 AM

I can see that....makes sence. I just wondered....and GK...I know that too, is it just the comertial...because the majority of the population is Buddhist..

**GK Punk** · 12-05-2005, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

Also I believe that Master Splinter never established a form of religion for the green machine, and left them instead follw media refrences, and probably have a form of Christmas but I doubt that they are talking about Baby Jesus and the three wise men. I think if they do celebrate Chistmas they just celebrate the comercialised version of it...not the relgious aspect of it.

That's more than likely the case

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I can see that....makes sence. I just wondered....and GK...I know that too, is it just the comertial...because the majority of the population is Buddhist..

As I have friends in Japan, as well as Japanese friends living in the states, I'm well aware of that

Your post made it seem like you said they don't celebrate it at all. So that's what I was responding too.

**Jester** · 12-05-2005, 12:24 AM

So it is the gift giving, tree having Christmas, huh? Ok...thanks. Just curious...now that that's outta the way: How do 5 people (er...animals...er...mutants) who live in a sewer and can't go topside celebrate the season, and say get gifts and a tree....there is Casey and April...:p

**GK Punk** · 12-05-2005, 12:27 AM

I'm not sure if all Japanese that celebrate actually use Trees or not. That's a good question. I have seen pictures, as well as things in movies/tv shows that show them celebrating a christmas very similar to ours (atleas tthe commercial aspects) so I'd assume for the most part they do it pretty much how we do.

*Sage Ninja* · 12-05-2005, 12:27 AM

I alsoways wondered if the boys did in fact practice some sort odf religion but I really don't much evidance of it in the classic toon.

In the final episde of season two Splinter goes on a pilgrimage where he meditates and fasts, that could indicate some kind of religius adhearance. Perhaps Buddhist or some sort of Shinto aspect.

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I can see that....makes sence. I just wondered....and GK...I know that too, is it just the comertial...because the majority of the population is Buddhist..

Actually people in Japan seem to have a mix of Shinto and Buddist belifs that sort of blur into each other.

Seurat · 12-05-2005, 08:02 PM

As far as I can tell, the turtles celebrate Xmas in quite a few different continuities. There was the whole Xmas comic featuring Mikey's discovery of Klunk and Raph finding out how Scrooge felt when he got visited by 3 ghosts. There was a Xmas ep of the new cartoon (Which, sadly, I missed last year.

) that mirrored the comic. I recall seeing the turtles on tv, live from MGM studios (The disney park once had the Turtles as an attraction) one Xmas morn' singing "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree". And, if I'm not mistaken there was a certain video featuring the Turtles (Not a cartoon, but a live action one) in a musical adventure about finding the perfect gift for Splinter (Yeah... despite my love of the Turtles and my love of Xmas specials, I don't think that's an incarnation of the turtles I want to see.).

*Weapon X* · 12-05-2005, 08:14 PM

Mirage Vol.1, Leo micro-series #1 and issue 10 take place on Christmas eve, and the Turtles are excited about their "First real Christmas".

"Christmas With The Turtles".

Simply horrible.

DSWBandit · 12-05-2005, 08:42 PM

I think you're hooked on those "horrible" pictures.

Anyway, they probably do, in a way, just because the world "above" is doing it, and that's the only way they can get out.

Also, wouldn't they be slower in snow?

*Buslady* · 12-05-2005, 08:44 PM

In some families Christmas is something other than a religious holiday. It is a celebration of family, being together ,celebrating surviving another year of crap, giving presents to show each other appreciation and love...ok I think I'm going to get sick from all of this mush...

So I think the TMNT would celebrate for these reasons.

*zkarlette* · 12-05-2005, 09:01 PM

I actually saw Don do a sign of the cross when splinter told the guys they could still eat pizza on TMNT 2 , just a comment

*Masked Ninja* · 12-05-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zkarlette

I actually saw Don do a sign of the cross when splinter told the guys they could still eat pizza on TMNT 2 , just a comment

Did he really? Heh heh... I might have to rewatch it just to look for that.

*cowabunga14* · 12-06-2005, 06:29 PM

I'd say the Turtles celebrate Christmas mainly cuz Mikey's Micro Series comic had a concept of Christmas in it. They probably celebrate it differently than humans do. The Christmas special that was on 4Kids last year was a good example of how the Turtles celebrate the holiday.

*Drtooth* · 12-07-2005, 01:04 PM

Personally, the Turtles celebrating Christmas isn't as ailly a concept as Fred Flintstone celebrating Christmas a million years before Jesus's birth. Seriously, what is up with that?

It's personally a marketing thing, I feel.... you know, giving different Christmas specials of different shows. Anyway, at least they didn't save Santa Claus from the Shredder and took the easy route out.

Actually, I read the x-entertainment article about the TMNT special (the live action one, that is), and I just laughed my head off at how pointless and bad it was. I even drew/wrote a parody of it last year, with Mikey and Raph commenting on how horrible it was. I didn't even need to see it. Not that I'd ever want to.

Though I am morbidly cureous of the Star Wars one, I'd never see TMNT ever. No way!

*Weapon X* · 12-07-2005, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

Though I am morbidly cureous of the Star Wars one

Save yourself.

installerray · 12-08-2005, 04:36 PM

if i knew how to use this damn computer i would put up the pic of splinter dressed as santa from the christmas aliens episode.... I STINK!!!!!

*iris* · 12-09-2005, 11:22 PM

My best friend is Buddhist by association (her parents are Buddhist), and she's all into Christmas for the secular reasons. She loves it... and she loves Christmas carols too. It's possible the turtles are Christian... just possible... but they seem to celebrate in the same way as my friend and very many "non-practicing" Christians.

Oh and Donny is Catholic. Didn't you know?

That's why he likes purple. It's a Catholic color. (That, and green.) Yeah. See, it makes perfect sense.

Jo269976 · 12-10-2005, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Weapon X

Mirage Vol.1, Leo micro-series #1 and issue 10 take place on Christmas eve, and the Turtles are excited about their "First real Christmas".

"Christmas With The Turtles".

Simply horrible.

hope one turtle got another a chainsaw to chop Venus up with

12-05-2005, 12:16 AM	#3
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	in the classic cartoon setting I don't don't think the turtles actually practice a religion and just follow traditions that Hamata Yoshi follows, which appear to be rather spiraitualist in the Buddhist catergory judging by how Splinter seems to act. Also I believe that Master Splinter never established a form of religion for the green machine, and left them instead follw media refrences, and probably have a form of Christmas but I doubt that they are talking about Baby Jesus and the three wise men. I think if they do celebrate Chistmas they just celebrate the comercialised version of it...not the relgious aspect of it. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

12-05-2005, 12:20 AM	#4
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	I can see that....makes sence. I just wondered....and GK...I know that too, is it just the comertial...because the majority of the population is Buddhist.. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

12-05-2005, 12:24 AM	#6
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	So it is the gift giving, tree having Christmas, huh? Ok...thanks. Just curious...now that that's outta the way: How do 5 people (er...animals...er...mutants) who live in a sewer and can't go topside celebrate the season, and say get gifts and a tree....there is Casey and April...:p __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

12-05-2005, 08:02 PM	#9
Seurat Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 143	... As far as I can tell, the turtles celebrate Xmas in quite a few different continuities. There was the whole Xmas comic featuring Mikey's discovery of Klunk and Raph finding out how Scrooge felt when he got visited by 3 ghosts. There was a Xmas ep of the new cartoon (Which, sadly, I missed last year. ) that mirrored the comic. I recall seeing the turtles on tv, live from MGM studios (The disney park once had the Turtles as an attraction) one Xmas morn' singing "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree". And, if I'm not mistaken there was a certain video featuring the Turtles (Not a cartoon, but a live action one) in a musical adventure about finding the perfect gift for Splinter (Yeah... despite my love of the Turtles and my love of Xmas specials, I don't think that's an incarnation of the turtles I want to see.). __________________ Don: The perimeter's quiet. Leo: Yeah, a little too quiet. Don: Well that was easy. Leo: Yeah, a little too easy. Don: Look! It's Raph! Mike: Yeah, a little too Raph!

12-05-2005, 08:42 PM	#11
DSWBandit Random Punk Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East Bound and Down Posts: 35	I think you're hooked on those "horrible" pictures. Anyway, they probably do, in a way, just because the world "above" is doing it, and that's the only way they can get out. Also, wouldn't they be slower in snow? __________________ The Lost Woods Forum <-- Dare to Enter? The Lost Village Animal Crossing Forum (Another link coming soon, I hope) The DSW <-- Explains the "DSW" part of my name. "If you shoot wolves to save moose and then you shoot the moose you're either out of your mind or in Alaska"

12-05-2005, 12:07 AM	#1
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	The TMNT and Christmas Howdy all, Jester here. Since the holiday/Christmas season is upon us I thought about our 4 favorite genetically unique teripans and wondered how or even if they'd celebrate Christmas. I know the guys are American, but they are also taught by a rat who happens to have a strong working in Japanese culture and probably religion. It's not to far of a stretch to say that the Hamato Clan is Buddhist, who wouldn't celebrate Christmas. I know the New Toon has them celebrating, and heck maybe the comics...so this may be a moot point...but heck that's why there's the "how do they celebrate" premiss, too....What do you get the man-rat that has everything? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

12-05-2005, 12:11 AM	#2
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Er... they do celebrate Christmas in Japan aswell

12-05-2005, 12:27 AM	#7
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	I'm not sure if all Japanese that celebrate actually use Trees or not. That's a good question. I have seen pictures, as well as things in movies/tv shows that show them celebrating a christmas very similar to ours (atleas tthe commercial aspects) so I'd assume for the most part they do it pretty much how we do.

12-05-2005, 08:14 PM	#10
Weapon X Turtle Power! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,744	Mirage Vol.1, Leo micro-series #1 and issue 10 take place on Christmas eve, and the Turtles are excited about their "First real Christmas". "Christmas With The Turtles". Simply horrible.

12-05-2005, 08:44 PM	#12
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	In some families Christmas is something other than a religious holiday. It is a celebration of family, being together ,celebrating surviving another year of crap, giving presents to show each other appreciation and love...ok I think I'm going to get sick from all of this mush... So I think the TMNT would celebrate for these reasons. __________________

12-05-2005, 09:01 PM	#13
zkarlette Fashionably late Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,146	I actually saw Don do a sign of the cross when splinter told the guys they could still eat pizza on TMNT 2 , just a comment __________________ "If only we'd stop trying to be happy, we could have a pretty good time" E.W

12-06-2005, 06:29 PM	#15
cowabunga14 Lover of Weird Things Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,014	I'd say the Turtles celebrate Christmas mainly cuz Mikey's Micro Series comic had a concept of Christmas in it. They probably celebrate it differently than humans do. The Christmas special that was on 4Kids last year was a good example of how the Turtles celebrate the holiday. __________________ How can something so beautiful shine on something so dreadful?

12-07-2005, 01:04 PM	#16
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Personally, the Turtles celebrating Christmas isn't as ailly a concept as Fred Flintstone celebrating Christmas a million years before Jesus's birth. Seriously, what is up with that? It's personally a marketing thing, I feel.... you know, giving different Christmas specials of different shows. Anyway, at least they didn't save Santa Claus from the Shredder and took the easy route out. Actually, I read the x-entertainment article about the TMNT special (the live action one, that is), and I just laughed my head off at how pointless and bad it was. I even drew/wrote a parody of it last year, with Mikey and Raph commenting on how horrible it was. I didn't even need to see it. Not that I'd ever want to. Though I am morbidly cureous of the Star Wars one, I'd never see TMNT ever. No way! __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

12-08-2005, 04:36 PM	#18
installerray Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: nj Posts: 190	if i knew how to use this damn computer i would put up the pic of splinter dressed as santa from the christmas aliens episode.... I STINK!!!!!

12-09-2005, 11:22 PM	#19
iris moddy mod mod Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: finally escaped the lab Posts: 1,886	My best friend is Buddhist by association (her parents are Buddhist), and she's all into Christmas for the secular reasons. She loves it... and she loves Christmas carols too. It's possible the turtles are Christian... just possible... but they seem to celebrate in the same way as my friend and very many "non-practicing" Christians. Oh and Donny is Catholic. Didn't you know? That's why he likes purple. It's a Catholic color. (That, and green.) Yeah. See, it makes perfect sense. __________________ Appeal to nobler motives. Like pie. [ life is at best bitter sweet ]