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Old 01-27-2006, 02:22 PM   #21
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You are frazzled about this:

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In other words, Pixar is going to be making Disney based movies rather than original creations, and you can kiss the Pixar name goodbye as Disney loved to permote themselves. As I said, it sucks ass. The pixar I knew just died and became another branch to farm out Disney sequels. Now they're just going to be really pretty sequels. This sh*t happens in the gaming industry all the time. They're doomed.
Two words: Eisner. Gone.

I do not doubt your knowledge of the gaming industry. But at least in the movie industry, anything can happen. Pixar has not died yet. There is no indication that this has happened. Disney has bought Pixar. True. But you seemed to have ignored the fact that several major positions have gone over to people at Pixar. The largest shareholder and new member of Board of Directors is Steve Jobs. Who is from Pixar. It seems to me that Disney is allowing Pixar to take over, or at least be directly involved in the big-decision making, which is part of what aggravated them in the first place.

This kind of scheiss happens all the time -- not only in the videogame/entertainment industry, but in the management of schools and companies. All the time. People think their position of authority makes them wiser than those dedicated to the craft. So what do we get? Idiot supervisors who have neither experience nor insight into what works calling most of the shots. Sequel after tedious sequel, in the case of Disney.

All right. We don't know the precise future of this ordeal. Whether the gesture of giving authority to Pixar was bogus or genuine, I think, is the issue upon which we have divergent opinions. I would like to believe that there is hope for Disney, that Pixar will help to mend the things that have gone wrong. I would like to believe that the board of directors at Disney (a fair portion of whom hated Eisner's guts) are NOT going to continue Eisner and Katzenberg method of managing Disney and excreting animated whorethongs. They're both gone, hopefully taking their flamboyant cockiness/type-A insanity with them.

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Old 01-27-2006, 05:42 PM   #22
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^ What he said.

I've put a lot of study into the animation industry in the past couple years and I constantly watch animation news. While it does have a small chance of turning out rotten, so does everything in life. But the chance of success is much greater because Disney's feature department is essentially being taken over by Pixar, not the other way around.

In fact, here's a quote I picked up the other day:
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Word has it that John Lasseter will be putting an end to Disney Toon studios. Yes folks, you heard right. No more DTV sequels. John wants to concentrate on new properties and if something really deserves a sequel, it will get the attention of a feature crew. This shouldn’t be all that surprising. However, it has ruffled more than a few feathers in upper management that Lasseter is cutting the throats of this profitable division. Not everyone is praising Pixar over at the mouse. The thought is, if John’s plans do not prove successful in the next few years, there could be quite a backlash from the board and shareholders. Not even mentioning the hundreds of people that will now be jobless between the Circle 7 and Disney Toon cuts.

The current Disney features will be allowed to continue. By current features, I mean Wilbur Robinson and American Dog (Rapunzel is a project in limbo and there isn’t a definite yes or no on it). They will be the last of the movies put in motion by David Stainton. What’s next for WDFA? John has several ideas he has wanted to make animated features out of, but just has not had the resources within Pixar to do all of them. Disney will be ramping up on those projects. All Lasseter, all the time.
Sequels what? And it's also rumored that Lasseter has stopped production on Toy Story 3. The movie itself could still be made, possibly... but it would be under his terms.

Like I said... it's all good.
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Old 01-28-2006, 02:41 AM   #23
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Weird...I always thought that Disney somehow always owned Pixar...and now it's offical. We're going to look forward to more animated movies until we're dead The Pixar movies lately just don't have that timeless charm other movies do. Finding Nemo for example. It was great the first time around, fifth time it's okay. The seventh time, you want the movie to end. The tenth time you want the world to end. The thirteenth time you want to comit suicide

All the things Disney is doing now...if only Walt could see it. I'm sure he'd be amazed with the new techniqes and computer animation, but I'm sure he wouldn't want it to make classic animation extinct

Still, I'm glad that this happened in a way. Pixar can now help rebuild Disney after everyone made those sh*t choices
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Old 01-28-2006, 02:33 PM   #24
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The Pixar movies lately just don't have that timeless charm other movies do. Finding Nemo for example. It was great the first time around, fifth time it's okay. The seventh time, you want the movie to end. The tenth time you want the world to end. The thirteenth time you want to comit suicide...
Finding Nemo, I found, was overplayed. I must have seen it 2-3 times in school that year, and I'm no longer at an age where I can watch the newest movie over and over and over. I did when I was little, though... *cough* Little Mermaid... *cough* Lion King... especially Lion King...

Pixar's other movies rock for me. One of my personal favorites is Monsters, Inc. They take stories that reflect how real people live and tweak them to fit something else... a good example being that dinner-table scene from the Incredibles. It's a normal family fight, but with super powers thrown in the mix.

But I do understand that some people don't appreciate Pixar's style of filmmaking. That's OK - to each his own. All I can say is, it's better than all those Disney sequels. *begins shuddering and huddles in a corner, muttering somthing about TLK 1.5...*
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