The Technodrome Forums

Go Back   The Technodrome Forums > General Forums > General Discussion > Current Events

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-06-2006, 05:10 AM   #1
Raph's Girl
Dierna Soul, Reporter
 
Raph's Girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Jakku
Posts: 10,831
Arctic Fox's killed to protect Geese

Wildlife managers in the Yukon-Delta National Wildlife Refuge are again killing arctic foxes to protect a small goose that travels north from Mexico to breed.

Arctic foxes steal thousands of waterfowl eggs and cache them under the tundra for lean times. Wildlife managers want to protect eggs of the Pacific black brant, whose numbers have been declining steadily.

All-terrain vehicles that disturb coastal nests are partly to blame, as are increased fall floods and hunters who take several thousand brant every year, according to managers.

Foxes in the refuge in 400 miles west of Anchorage may be the biggest reason black brant numbers are only about two-thirds what they were in 1960, managers said. Most of the world's 115,000 black brant gather each summer on the marshy plain in several nesting colonies.

Hunters in Canada, Mexico and the U.S. take about 14,000 black brant a year, said Tom Rothe, waterfowl coordinator for the state Department of Fish and Game. Native subsistence hunters on the delta take about 4,000 of those.

"We make soup out of it," said Anthony Boyscout of Chevak, a village in the 19 million-acre refuge.

A single fox will swipe several hundred eggs in a matter of weeks if it can't find tundra mammals to eat. The foxes frighten away weak birds on the edges of colonies, then grip the large eggs in their mouths and ferry them to nearby burrows.

"They'll just keep coming and coming," Rothe said.

State and federal wildlife managers are reducing the foxes as part of a $100,000, five-year study initiated this year by the
U.S. Geological Survey, said research associate and wildlife biologist Michael Anthony.

In March, biologists killed about 20 foxes using spring-loaded traps that snap shut around necks, Anthony said. Biologists hope the fox killings will protect a sample colony of about 4,000 brant that nest at the mouth of the Tutakoke River, he said.

About 50 foxes were removed from the refuge during a four-year period in the mid-1980s, he said. Brant reproduction rates jumped from less than 10 percent to more than 80 percent, he said.

The program was not continued and brant numbers began falling again in the 1990s, he said.

The research aims to help create a model that predicts when foxes are likely to raid nests and when they should be eradicated, he said. The study also will gather information to help scientists estimate vole numbers, which figure into determining the number of foxes, he said.

One question is whether increasing fall floods are killing foxes and voles, he said.

Bethel-based refuge manager Mike Rearden said a fall storm last year, the biggest in memory, sent saltwater at least 10 miles inland. The storm, fueled by rising global temperatures, may have killed thousands of voles and some foxes, he said.

State and federal managers from California to Alaska have been trying to protect brant for years, Rothe said. They hope to bring their numbers to 1960 levels of about 150,000, he said.

Recreational hunting seasons were halved last year in four states, including Alaska, to protect the bird. The fall season on the Alaska Peninsula, which begins Sept. 1, now lasts just a month, he said.

Federal regulations also will reduce subsistence hunting on the delta beginning this year, he said.

The Native village corporation in Hooper Bay, north of the Tutakoke River, restricted ATVs from traveling on corporation land near a large colony last year, said Myron Naneng, a member of the Alaska Migratory Bird Co-Management Council, which recommends subsistence harvests in Alaska.

In part because of those efforts, the number of nesting pairs jumped from 1,000 in 2004 to 4,000 last year, Naneng said.

The limitations are important, said Richard Tuluk, tribal administrator in Chevak.

"We need to use these resources for our dinner tables and to provide nutrition for the young ones," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060605/...sc/black_brant

Raph's Girl note: WTF? They're saying that arctic fox's are the ones killing off a goose species? Uh it seems to me that it's hunters who are doing it. Yea sure...kill a dozen or so of the Arctic Fox...they're only nearly extinct.... Stupid Fish and Wildlife people...let nature take it's fraking course! Forget the Goose! Save the beautiful Arctic Fox!
__________________
Raph's Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 08:05 AM   #2
Ra
It's my desire?
 
Ra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: In your pants.
Posts: 4,441
Anything for those hunters to get fur. It's sickening, really it is. I agree with Raph's Girl - SAVE THE FOXES! Turn the geese into Goose-pate for all I care.... *shakes head* Honestly...
__________________

"So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."
Ra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 03:20 PM   #3
Jo Dawn
Inactive Moderator
 
Jo Dawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Authority On All Things Don
Posts: 5,190
Actually, I'm kinda torn on this.

I don't think it's right if it's so they get fur... but the Goose is an animal, too, no lower in importance because it's a Goose. The Fox is no better just because it's a Fox. To think that way is hypocritical, because they are both living, breathing creatures.

There should be a way to save both.
__________________
Jo Dawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:07 PM   #4
Peanut
Second Gear
 
Peanut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: The New World
Posts: 15,422
I agree with JD...buuuut...

Geese are so much better than a fox. The whole dog family sucks ass. They're disgusting animals. Kill em all!
Peanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:23 PM   #5
Sewer Bull
Devil's Advocate
 
Sewer Bull's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,768
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jo Dawn
Actually, I'm kinda torn on this.

I don't think it's right if it's so they get fur... but the Goose is an animal, too, no lower in importance because it's a Goose. The Fox is no better just because it's a Fox. To think that way is hypocritical, because they are both living, breathing creatures.

There should be a way to save both.
Aren't arctic foxes an endangered species?
__________________

Soooo... THIS is how you spend your free time now?!
Sewer Bull is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 05:04 PM   #6
Raph's Girl
Dierna Soul, Reporter
 
Raph's Girl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Jakku
Posts: 10,831
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sewer Bull
Aren't arctic foxes an endangered species?
Well I thought they were but they appeared to have been taken off the endangered species list. Still the Arctic Fox is my FAVE of the fox species.

Forget the fraking Goose..there's plenty of Goose species. Only goose I like is the Nene (a Hawaiian Goose that's extremely endangered).

Here's a pic of an Arctic Fox in it's blue period:
__________________
Raph's Girl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 07:25 PM   #7
Jo Dawn
Inactive Moderator
 
Jo Dawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Authority On All Things Don
Posts: 5,190
But it's cruel to be so hyped up to save one kind of animal, and so easily dismiss another living, breathing creature just because you like one better.

In that case, you are not being enviromentally suppoertive. Just biased.
__________________
Jo Dawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 07:32 PM   #8
Ryona
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jo Dawn
But it's cruel to be so hyped up to save one kind of animal, and so easily dismiss another living, breathing creature just because you like one better.

In that case, you are not being enviromentally suppoertive. Just biased.
I completely agree with you, Jo. There has to be a way for both of them to coexist.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 07:54 PM   #9
KROW
Meat-n-Potatoes Man
 
KROW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: State's Anus, NY
Posts: 6,472
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raph's Girl
Wildlife managers want to protect eggs of the Pacific black brant, whose numbers have been declining steadily.

All-terrain vehicles that disturb coastal nests are partly to blame, as are increased fall floods and hunters who take several thousand brant every year, according to managers.

Foxes in the refuge in 400 miles west of Anchorage may be the biggest reason black brant numbers are only about two-thirds what they were in 1960, managers said. Most of the world's 115,000 black brant gather each summer on the marshy plain in several nesting colonies.

Hunters in Canada, Mexico and the U.S. take about 14,000 black brant a year, said Tom Rothe, waterfowl coordinator for the state Department of Fish and Game. Native subsistence hunters on the delta take about 4,000 of those.

"We make soup out of it," said Anthony Boyscout of Chevak, a village in the 19 million-acre refuge.
Sounds like the hunters are doing more damage than the foxes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raph's Girl
A single fox will swipe several hundred eggs in a matter of weeks if it can't find tundra mammals to eat. The foxes frighten away weak birds on the edges of colonies, then grip the large eggs in their mouths and ferry them to nearby burrows.
Hmm... Hey, look at that: Nature in action. As Paul McCartney once sang, "Let it be."
__________________

- Optimus Acid Trip - Cult of a Half-Shell - Raiden's Bitter Tongue -
I don't try to be funny; I fail at it naturally.
KROW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 08:08 PM   #10
Dr. Doom
Allons-y!
 
Dr. Doom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Castle Doom
Posts: 4,535
I ****ing hate geese.

And Peanut.
__________________
Dr. Doom is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 08:49 PM   #11
Peanut
Second Gear
 
Peanut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: The New World
Posts: 15,422
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Doom
I ****ing hate geese.

And Peanut.
Awesome. Add another one to the list.
Peanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.