Sony = Denial

Peanut · 06-22-2006, 02:52 PM

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6153028.html

Is it just me, or does it seem like every single Sony exec who opens his mouth just slams his foot right in afterwards?

GTA helped them sell "some" units? You mean 90% of the units? Every single one of my non-gaming friends who bought a PS2 bought it for one reason, GTAIII. What a complete f*cking joke.

And apparently people were pleased with their E3 showing...LOL! What morons out their are falling for this crap? I love seeing the comments on these newposts. The one random tool with a Sephiroth avatar, saying GTA meant nothing and there is plenty more to pull in the casual gamer market, then everyone else come on and straight up lays his ass out. Hilarious!

*Spitfire* · 06-22-2006, 08:08 PM

The fans are stupid. They were talking how RE 5 wouldn't be able to run on the Wii because the 360 and PS3 have such a higher graphcial output. For one we don't know the power of the Wii and from what we saw at E3 it looks pretty damn good*And that was just a Gamecube* Then they were saying the PS2 version of RE 4 looked just as good as the GC version.

Could just be GameFAQs or maybe Sony fanboys really are that dumb.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 06-22-2006, 08:14 PM

I can't find the words to insult these numbnuts. Really, they've lost their mind. No wonder their head of PR quit. Get off the sinking ship. 360 gets GTA. Microsoft is digging the hole, and Nintendo is out shopping for the casket.

Sliced · 06-22-2006, 11:12 PM

Sony are retards. They did make something good out of the ps2. It was a good console, with alot of good games. But man, they are now sinking fast. They better explode with the ps3, because the 360 is a hell of a console, and the Wii is looking like they might get the biggest part of the cake.

Alot of ''exclusives'' of sony are now moving to other consoles... Soon, we'll see metal gear solid moving to Nintendo. When that will be done ( in a few years I'm pretty sure) sony will be at the bottom of the ladder. And won't get on top ever again me thinks...

*Kid Icarus* · 06-23-2006, 01:50 AM

PS2 was *NOT* a good console, by any means. Do you have ANY idea how insanely complex it was to program for? How shoddy the first run of hardware was? How many gen 1-3 PS2's don't even work anymore, and how Sony made it difficult to exchange them?

What has made Sony is the third parties. That's it. Their first party offerings are just a slight icing on the cake, but they don't sell systems. Square, Rockstar, Konami, Namco, Capcom, EA, and Ubisoft sell Playstations.

Do any of you actualy know people who bought a PS2 just to play first party games on it? Hm? Nope.

And what's happening now... the third parties are jumping as quick as they can. 360 is getting nearly every game PS3 is going to have, and they're making entirely new games for Wii that arn't going to be on either of the 'classic' systems.... and then Wii and 360 have some amazingly talent inhouse developers to back up what the third parties suck at.

*Spitfire* · 06-23-2006, 02:01 AM

The only thing that makes me mad is I have to give up Devil May Cry. But hopefully if DMC 3 really if put on PC then I have hope of 4 being on PC as well. And the Xbox 360 controller works in a PC so I can play it using that if I need to. I really love DMC but it's not worth a system I dispise from a company I have hated since the day the first of my 4 PS2's broke. Yes I went through 4 and it was a pain.

They sent me a refurbished one and it didn't work. So I sent it back and after 4 months of fighting I got another refurb and then a brand new one which I kept. The refurb I sold to my roomate at the time, it broke a year later.

My friend bought a PSP and his screen had 13 dead pixels in it and they said "That isn't our problem" and they wouldn't refund him. Plus the story told him to take it up with Sony so he couldn't return it to them. GAH I hate their service.

*Kid Icarus* · 06-23-2006, 03:28 AM

If PS3 bombs do you seriously think Capcom, the people that killed off sales of RE4 because they're so damn port happy, will heistate to move DMC4 over?

People need to stop thinking that just because a game has been exclusive to one system that it'll always be on there. Final Fantasy, anyone?

Sliced · 06-23-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kid Icarus

PS2 was *NOT* a good console, by any means. Do you have ANY idea how insanely complex it was to program for? How shoddy the first run of hardware was? How many gen 1-3 PS2's don't even work anymore, and how Sony made it difficult to exchange them?

Everybody knows that the PS2 was sh*tty in the inside. And that sony probably did the worst console of the big 3. But, when it got out, and sometimes still today, it was able to offer some nice graphics. Sure the games were in developement for a while, and the companies worked their a$$ off not to make the ps2 sink right away. The console had potential, we soon saw how ''big'' that potential was, but still, it had some.

The games did sold pretty much every ps2 sold to date. I don't think that alot of people just bought the ps2 because it was the ps2...

As for the ''exclusive'' games, they will stay on a console for quite a while. But companies are not dumb. Sure there are alot of contracs being signed, and those won't be broken just like that. But when they see that a game is popular, they will try to make more money with it. Just look at rockstar.

*Duke* · 06-23-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sliced

The games did sold pretty much every ps2 sold to date. I don't think that alot of people just bought the ps2 because it was the ps2...

I bought a ps2 because it was a ps2 but only cause I picked it up at launch. But it took years for me to actually enjoy it because it took that long for any good games to show up. The one thing I did learn from that experience was I'll never purchase a new console because it is a new console. I got the 360 at launch because of games coming out like Oblivion, Gears of War, and others but not just because it was new. And I'll get a Wii because it is freaking amazing. But I doubt I'll ever pick up another sony console unless they get amazing "exclusives" which I really don't ever see happening. Looks like I'm back to a 2 console man.

*Dr. Doom* · 06-23-2006, 12:34 PM

Everyone knows how I feel about this. Horrible, horrible software in the PS2, but out of this generation it probably had the largest amount of really good games on any of the systems. I was already concerned about my situation with Metal Gear Solid 4, but lately, with the re-emergence of ECW especially, I've been concerned about Smackdown vs. Raw too. Everything inside me says that getting a PS3 is wrong on so many levels, but as I've always said, people get consoles for the games, not the consoles themselves (unless you're a BluRay enthusiast, I guess). My future with Sony is as of yet uncertian.

OA · 06-23-2006, 05:00 PM

I'll admit that GTA was a huge reason i was looking forward to the PS3 orginally (along with my all-time fav. MGS)...but with GTA jumping ship its serioulsy looking like i may be an xbox owner for the 1st time sometime soon...im already plannin on getting a wii, and if MGS jumps to there, well there may just be no reason at all to even think about getting a ps3...

Peanut · 06-23-2006, 06:08 PM

Doom, Smackdown vs RAW has become multiplatform now. It's on the 360 as well.

Really, I don't think the PS2, as a game console, was all that bad. I can look back and see stuff like Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2, God of War, Shadow of the Collosus and Guitar Hero, and not regret buying one. Do I regret paying full price for one? Hell yes. However, that being said, I don't think it came out worst this last generation.

To be perfectly honest, and this is probably going to shock some people, I think the PS2 and Gamecube were roughly on par. I look back on my PS2, and I see 5 really amazing games, which I mentioned above. Then I can turn and look at my Gamecube and see 5 as well. Paper Mario, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Bros., The Wind Waker, and Animal Crossing.

For me, the clear winner was Xbox. I can easily name off a dozen games I played on it that I love a ton, they may not have all been exclusive, but they were always better over the PS2 and Gamecube ports, or they were PC only, which has never been an option to me.

*Dr. Doom* · 06-24-2006, 02:43 PM

Well, that's a slight form of releif, I guess.

*Kid Icarus* · 06-24-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sliced

Everybody knows that the PS2 was sh*tty in the inside. And that sony probably did the worst console of the big 3. But, when it got out, and sometimes still today, it was able to offer some nice graphics. Sure the games were in developement for a while, and the companies worked their a$$ off not to make the ps2 sink right away. The console had potential, we soon saw how ''big'' that potential was, but still, it had some.

The games did sold pretty much every ps2 sold to date. I don't think that alot of people just bought the ps2 because it was the ps2...

As for the ''exclusive'' games, they will stay on a console for quite a while. But companies are not dumb. Sure there are alot of contracs being signed, and those won't be broken just like that. But when they see that a game is popular, they will try to make more money with it. Just look at rockstar.

Sure contracts will be broken, or worked around. I bring up Capcom once again.

And I was talking about first party, in house games. An example is how Mario is a first party series from Nintendo, and Halo is a first party series from Microsoft (bungie, i suppose... fully owned by microsoft). People didn't buy a PS2 just because of Sony's games, they bought it because of the third parties that... and get this... were trained on Nintendo's theory of game design. :-O

06-22-2006, 02:52 PM	#1
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Sony = Denial http://www.gamespot.com/news/6153028.html Is it just me, or does it seem like every single Sony exec who opens his mouth just slams his foot right in afterwards? GTA helped them sell "some" units? You mean 90% of the units? Every single one of my non-gaming friends who bought a PS2 bought it for one reason, GTAIII. What a complete f*cking joke. And apparently people were pleased with their E3 showing...LOL! What morons out their are falling for this crap? I love seeing the comments on these newposts. The one random tool with a Sephiroth avatar, saying GTA meant nothing and there is plenty more to pull in the casual gamer market, then everyone else come on and straight up lays his ass out. Hilarious!

06-22-2006, 08:08 PM	#2
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	The fans are stupid. They were talking how RE 5 wouldn't be able to run on the Wii because the 360 and PS3 have such a higher graphcial output. For one we don't know the power of the Wii and from what we saw at E3 it looks pretty damn goodAnd that was just a Gamecube Then they were saying the PS2 version of RE 4 looked just as good as the GC version. Could just be GameFAQs or maybe Sony fanboys really are that dumb. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

06-22-2006, 08:14 PM	#3
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	I can't find the words to insult these numbnuts. Really, they've lost their mind. No wonder their head of PR quit. Get off the sinking ship. 360 gets GTA. Microsoft is digging the hole, and Nintendo is out shopping for the casket. __________________

06-22-2006, 11:12 PM	#4
Sliced Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Right behind you Posts: 793	Sony are retards. They did make something good out of the ps2. It was a good console, with alot of good games. But man, they are now sinking fast. They better explode with the ps3, because the 360 is a hell of a console, and the Wii is looking like they might get the biggest part of the cake. Alot of ''exclusives'' of sony are now moving to other consoles... Soon, we'll see metal gear solid moving to Nintendo. When that will be done ( in a few years I'm pretty sure) sony will be at the bottom of the ladder. And won't get on top ever again me thinks... __________________

06-23-2006, 02:01 AM	#6
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	The only thing that makes me mad is I have to give up Devil May Cry. But hopefully if DMC 3 really if put on PC then I have hope of 4 being on PC as well. And the Xbox 360 controller works in a PC so I can play it using that if I need to. I really love DMC but it's not worth a system I dispise from a company I have hated since the day the first of my 4 PS2's broke. Yes I went through 4 and it was a pain. They sent me a refurbished one and it didn't work. So I sent it back and after 4 months of fighting I got another refurb and then a brand new one which I kept. The refurb I sold to my roomate at the time, it broke a year later. My friend bought a PSP and his screen had 13 dead pixels in it and they said "That isn't our problem" and they wouldn't refund him. Plus the story told him to take it up with Sony so he couldn't return it to them. GAH I hate their service. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

06-23-2006, 01:50 AM	#5
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	PS2 was NOT a good console, by any means. Do you have ANY idea how insanely complex it was to program for? How shoddy the first run of hardware was? How many gen 1-3 PS2's don't even work anymore, and how Sony made it difficult to exchange them? What has made Sony is the third parties. That's it. Their first party offerings are just a slight icing on the cake, but they don't sell systems. Square, Rockstar, Konami, Namco, Capcom, EA, and Ubisoft sell Playstations. Do any of you actualy know people who bought a PS2 just to play first party games on it? Hm? Nope. And what's happening now... the third parties are jumping as quick as they can. 360 is getting nearly every game PS3 is going to have, and they're making entirely new games for Wii that arn't going to be on either of the 'classic' systems.... and then Wii and 360 have some amazingly talent inhouse developers to back up what the third parties suck at.

06-23-2006, 03:28 AM	#7
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	If PS3 bombs do you seriously think Capcom, the people that killed off sales of RE4 because they're so damn port happy, will heistate to move DMC4 over? People need to stop thinking that just because a game has been exclusive to one system that it'll always be on there. Final Fantasy, anyone?

06-23-2006, 12:34 PM	#10
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Everyone knows how I feel about this. Horrible, horrible software in the PS2, but out of this generation it probably had the largest amount of really good games on any of the systems. I was already concerned about my situation with Metal Gear Solid 4, but lately, with the re-emergence of ECW especially, I've been concerned about Smackdown vs. Raw too. Everything inside me says that getting a PS3 is wrong on so many levels, but as I've always said, people get consoles for the games, not the consoles themselves (unless you're a BluRay enthusiast, I guess). My future with Sony is as of yet uncertian. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

06-23-2006, 05:00 PM	#11
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	I'll admit that GTA was a huge reason i was looking forward to the PS3 orginally (along with my all-time fav. MGS)...but with GTA jumping ship its serioulsy looking like i may be an xbox owner for the 1st time sometime soon...im already plannin on getting a wii, and if MGS jumps to there, well there may just be no reason at all to even think about getting a ps3... __________________

06-23-2006, 06:08 PM	#12
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Doom, Smackdown vs RAW has become multiplatform now. It's on the 360 as well. Really, I don't think the PS2, as a game console, was all that bad. I can look back and see stuff like Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2, God of War, Shadow of the Collosus and Guitar Hero, and not regret buying one. Do I regret paying full price for one? Hell yes. However, that being said, I don't think it came out worst this last generation. To be perfectly honest, and this is probably going to shock some people, I think the PS2 and Gamecube were roughly on par. I look back on my PS2, and I see 5 really amazing games, which I mentioned above. Then I can turn and look at my Gamecube and see 5 as well. Paper Mario, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Bros., The Wind Waker, and Animal Crossing. For me, the clear winner was Xbox. I can easily name off a dozen games I played on it that I love a ton, they may not have all been exclusive, but they were always better over the PS2 and Gamecube ports, or they were PC only, which has never been an option to me.

06-24-2006, 02:43 PM	#13
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Well, that's a slight form of releif, I guess. __________________ I love you, Pickle.