Attacking the n00bs

[ThirdMarioBro]

Serious topic time. This is soemthing I just don't get, and I am aas guilty of it as everyone else. Why do we as experienced gamers, feel the need to attack a newbie for their appearant lack of intelligence? Whenever we see someone who lacks understanding on a topic, rather than politely help them to gain the knoledge they need, we tend to as a collective whole, jump their ass. Its like saying, "How dare you be so stupid for not knowing something". It just dosen't make any sense. Someone can't learn unless they are taught, but rather than teach, gamers would rather punish ignorance. I don't see why this is done, but it seems to happen on the internet in more places and over more topics than just gaming. Are people just hostile, or are we all just assholes?

Discuss.

[Kid Icarus]

My take on it is that some of them just don't *want* to learn anything.

But I get what you're getting at, and I'll try to cool it down a notch...

I think we all just got so used to it being 5 or so people that would regularly post in this part of the boards.

[XERO]

I think it's because that we know the painful and humilating experience of being newbs/noobs ourselves.

When I see someone playing a game (preferrably old-school) and he/she is sucking really bad, especially when there are other people watching, it irks me. And when I try to help, the 'newb' tends to fend me off. Which is EXACTLY what I used to do when I had a hard time. But that's just me. They deserve to play and learn, but not when there is a chance to entertain.

Newbs are more competitive than pros, but pros are more artistic.

But the one thing that pisses me off to the extreme are N.W.A's

Newbs Wit Attitudes.

I hate it when they criticize me for playing a game better then they can. I got to this point by going through the same crap they're currently going through. I've been through the trenches, and I'm still not where I want to be.

We're not the only a**holes, TMB. They are, too.

[Peanut]

I think it's because most of us have been into this stuff our entire life. For most of us it's our passion. It's the same with anyone and the stuff they care about, not just us. It could be cars, or art, or music. Anything.

Now, if someone were to come in here and say, "Well this and this and this, but I don't really understand videogames. Maybe you guys could help me out?" that's a completely different story. They're trying to actually learn what's what, and not just spouting worthless sh*t for no reason. I'm not about to go to a PC board and start posting stuff about PC's, because I have no knowledge of them. Maybe if I went to ask a question, that's different.

Plus, most "hardcore" videogame players are complete losers who have nothing else in their life. They're assholes just because they spend more time researching games from 1986 than they do actually playing them.

I personally don't care if someone new to games comes along into our forum, because I welcome new people here openly, but if they know nothing about games, then start to post stupid crap relating to games, then I get annoyed.

I'm also like Benvenuto in the way that people playing games horribly is really annoying to me. When one of my friends is there trying to play a game, going in circles, dying, being a complete moron, it makes me angry. I don't know why, but I just can't stand stupidity, especially when it comes to games. It drives me up the wall.

I'd also like to say that everyone needs to knock off using the term "pro". None of us are "pro" gamers. There are few in the world who are and those tools shouldn't be there. The fact that some of these idiots get paid over $100 grand a year to play Halo is disgusting. If there's one thing I hate more than ignorant newbs, it's ignorant veterans who call themselves "pro" and act superior.

[Dr. Doom]

STFU noobs.

[Jo Dawn]

Bravo to TMB for bringing up such a thing.

I am very glad to see people agreeing. It can be a rare thing sometimes. My only concern, is the excuse that you're mean because you've been playing games all your life. That is not an excuse to be mean. Nothing excuses that. (Now, someone coming in for the sole purpose to START trouble, is a completely different matter, in and of itself.) So please don't use 'I've been playing it forever, so I turned out mean'. It just doesn't work that way. It only leads to hurt feelings, as I'm sure everyone here knows, because everyone has been humiliated or made fun of at least once. It's not fun.

Remember... hostility breeds and reflects more hostility. No one's better than anyone else because of what they do and do not know. Those are the two most important things that we as adults must remember.

Thank you.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

My only concern, is the excuse that you're mean because you've been playing games all your life. That is not an excuse to be mean. Nothing excuses that. (Now, someone coming in for the sole purpose to START trouble, is a completely different matter, in and of itself.) So please don't use 'I've been playing it forever, so I turned out mean'. It just doesn't work that way.

No one is saying that and I doubt anyone would. The point I'm trying to get across is we've been playing games our whole life, so it's very special to us, for a bunch of us it's probably our favourite thing in the world, so when someone starts to base opinions on matters they don't even understand, it's irksome.

Like I said, we're all passionate about the things we love and everyone is guilty of this. Not just us.

[Kid Icarus]

Jo, it's more of an annoyance then us just being mean because we are.

Peanut pointed out is like going to X forum not knowing about X and trying to claim that you really DO know X. That fits perfectly.

But hey, at least we're not as bas as this group of losers.

[Peanut]

Those forums actually got a little better when GameFAQs merged with Gamespot, but not much. They're more heavily moderated now, but that doesn't stop the stupidity or the constant flow of people who act like asses because they have high Karma.

[Jo Dawn]

Erm... okay, I worded that wrong, fellas! Hehe, my apologies. I wasn't calling y'all mean. Ugh, I am too tired to construct sentences. Take no offence, my dears. None of what I said was meant against any one of you. Besides... yer not meanies. Excuse my use of the word. *bows*

I was rather speaking in generalities. Buuuut I didn't do so well, heh. Sorry loves!

[Peanut]

I don't think any of us were offended, JD. I understand what you said perfectly. I was just trying to clarify my point.

But yeah, some of us are mean. I am anyways. I'm sorry that I am, guys, but you know me. You'll all just have to try and keep me in line, or not, whatever you find more entertaining. I'm sure at least a couple of you have enjoyed my insane rants over the last month.

[Jo Dawn]

I just don't wanna come off as mean when my intentions were not so! Y'all know I love you.

...And now, I must sleep, as the written word is alluding me this night.





...I just can't think. *snoozes*

[JameO]

Yeah im with Peanut on this pretty much, ill teach when people ask a question, not when they claim to know something they don't. But the constant flow of 13 year old gamers sway me away from playing halo anymore, or other online games. n00bs never get a break!

[Peanut]

Don't listen to him. He's a n00b too.

[Hannah]

13 year old gamers

[Dr. Doom]

-=Points, laughs=- Baaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha!

[Kid Icarus]

we need to get her WoW so she can take her aggression from us out on those poor bunnies.

[Dr. Doom]

We'll teach her to punt Gnomes but good.

[Hannah]

HOPEFULLY I'll get it for my birthday. But that means an extra $25 for me to come up with.

[jeff the cheff]

It's because nerds have always been picked on, and when they see the chance to bully some "noob" then they will. Noobs are seen as nerds by....nerds, so they pick on them