Jack Thompson vs. G4/TechTV

*DrSpengler* · 08-11-2006, 01:19 PM

http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/.../The_Loop.html

Anti-Video Game activist, Jack Thompson, went on Attack of the Show the other night. The resulting video documents their trainwreck of a "debate".

Hilarious stuff, though.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-11-2006, 02:25 PM

Saw it. Thought it was way past dumb.

**Barkworm** · 08-11-2006, 03:39 PM

God, that Sessler dude was even more ridiculous than Thompson...

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-11-2006, 06:47 PM

We (as in AMN) have almost gotten an interview with the ****** about three times, but every time, he bails out because something like this. I'd like to see someone crusify the asshole by using rational thought and factual statements in a real debate; not through petty humour. G4 sucks, but you already knew that.

Draconic · 08-11-2006, 08:39 PM

Here's an airtight argument:

Jack Thompson is teh ghey!1

But really, if you want so see some people argue about it, or at least come up with a good argument in either direction, I'm sure I could find one for you.

Peanut · 08-11-2006, 08:43 PM

It's pointless to argue with this douche. Especially when you have idiots doing it like the tools at G4. Even someone with a vast amount of videogame knowledge and grasp on how to properly debate would have a hard time. This guy is a lawyer and as much as we all rag on him for being a moron, he's not a stupid person.

I can't believe G4 pulled some crap like this. Just what they needed to do. Pull this ass back into the limelight when he was quiet. Thanks, G4! Not only are you all a bunch of know-nothing idiots, but you also made our community look as bad as Thompson. F*ckers.

It also drives me insane that Rockstar keeps pulling this sh*t! They're making videogames look awful and they just KEEP IT UP! What a stupid idea "Bully" is. They're just doing this to piss more people off and try and be edgy. They're a complete joke.

*Kid Icarus* · 08-11-2006, 09:25 PM

The thought of watching that makes me feel like crying... so I'm not even going to. G4 and Thompson are on the same level of stupidity when it comes to gaming.

One knows nothing, and one tries to act like they know everything.

*Cure* · 08-11-2006, 09:33 PM

What is it that you guys have against g4? I've heard of that channel but never watched it.

**GK Punk** · 08-11-2006, 09:36 PM

What's wrong with g4? geesh. Where should we start?

Peanut · 08-11-2006, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cure4AIDS

What is it that you guys have against g4? I've heard of that channel but never watched it.

It's a bastardization of everything to do with games. Instead of putting people who know what they're talking about on shows, they put pretty faces and egocentric morons. Plus their coverage is just awful.

*Ecto Jedi* · 08-11-2006, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut

It also drives me insane that Rockstar keeps pulling this sh*t! They're making videogames look awful and they just KEEP IT UP! What a stupid idea "Bully" is. They're just doing this to piss more people off and try and be edgy. They're a complete joke.

Tut, tut, tut...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Anti-Video Game activist, Jack Thompson, went on Attack of the Show the other night. The resulting video documents their trainwreck of a "debate".

I'm on dial-up and can't watch the video -- can anyone write a small synopsis? Or at least share why it was such a trainwreck? I'd like to see what that idiot Sessler had to say. Did either side win the debate? Or was it a debate at all...?

Peanut · 08-12-2006, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi

Tut, tut, tut...

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

**Barkworm** · 08-12-2006, 02:44 AM

I've only seen the trailer for Bully and that looks surprisingly funny.

~~Toonami Tom~~ · 08-15-2006, 10:36 PM

I don't understand why Jack is upset. Here's what Jack needs to understand: The ESRB rates video games. It is the freedom of people if they decide to buy a video game, no matter the game's content. Parents should decide if a game is ok for their kid/kids to play. Only a person with major problems would do something violent based on what happens in a video game. End of story.

I think Jack wants to make it illegal for video games with content he doesn't like to be made. He probably wants all video games to be shown to him, so he can decide if it's ok to be released. I think that's what his ultimate dream would be, and that's insane.

I think the video game industry should be left alone, let them do whatever they want. Just as long as the ESRB rates the games to tell people the content, which they are doing. Why is that so hard for Jack to understand? Do you guys think I'm right?

The only time a video game maker should get in trouble is when they sneak something bad in and not tell about it. Example: the "Hot Coffee" thing in the GTA video game.

Peanut · 08-15-2006, 10:46 PM

I have a bit of a story about this. Kind of.

I was in EB. A mom was buying an Xbox game for her daughter. 50 Cent Bulletproof. She didn't bother to look at the game case. Didn't bother to look at the rating. Luckily the EB clerk brought it to her attention and after reading her the various things listed in the game to make it M rated (drug use, violence, language etc etc.) the mom seemed shocked. She told the guy to put the game away because she wasn't going to buy it. Now how many times has a parent been in the same situation, but the clerk or sales person did nothing?

I really think there needs to be a crack down on this. Parents just aren't aware of the ESRB. It needs to be brought to their attention by either, A) Having commercials aired on TV, B) Having that tiny little ESRB sign they have in most stores replaced with a large and detailed sign, C) Making it mandatory for anyone selling a game to provide information about said game before purchase, or D) All of the above.

~~Toonami Tom~~ · 08-15-2006, 10:50 PM

I agree with you Peanut. That would solve the problem of parents not knowing about ratings.

*Brodie* · 08-16-2006, 10:17 AM

Penny Arcade's Gabe is currently, (or recently was) making ads to make awareness of the ESRB.

There are more, but i can't find links to them, aside from the preview that has nothing about ESRB on them.

But I agree, if more parents knew about it, there wouldn't be as much of a problem. But I know at Target and Wal Mart when a movie or game is rung up, and is either R, or M, you get carded. I, myself was carded the first time for Shaun of The Dead about a year or two ago. And I just got carded for Dead Rising.

But there needs to be more than just those little window stickers on the game racks explaining what E, T, M, A+ are.

*Hannah* · 08-16-2006, 07:08 PM

I expected it to be funny, but that was just sad. D=

*Ecto Jedi* · 09-01-2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peanut

It also drives me insane that Rockstar keeps pulling this sh*t! They're making videogames look awful and they just KEEP IT UP! What a stupid idea "Bully" is. They're just doing this to piss more people off and try and be edgy. They're a complete joke.

Bully looks pretty damn sweet, actually -- I just caught the trailer. Harry Potter meets Grand Theft Auto. What a combination!

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 09-01-2006, 09:08 PM

I saw that debate and I'm glad someone like Adam Sessler finally stood up to that asshat.

08-11-2006, 01:19 PM	#1
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Jack Thompson vs. G4/TechTV http://www.g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/.../The_Loop.html Anti-Video Game activist, Jack Thompson, went on Attack of the Show the other night. The resulting video documents their trainwreck of a "debate". Hilarious stuff, though.

08-11-2006, 02:25 PM	#2
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Saw it. Thought it was way past dumb. __________________

08-11-2006, 03:39 PM	#3
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,759	God, that Sessler dude was even more ridiculous than Thompson... __________________ Make ****, not kill!

08-11-2006, 06:47 PM	#4
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	We (as in AMN) have almost gotten an interview with the ****** about three times, but every time, he bails out because something like this. I'd like to see someone crusify the asshole by using rational thought and factual statements in a real debate; not through petty humour. G4 sucks, but you already knew that. __________________

08-11-2006, 08:39 PM	#5
Draconic Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 328	Here's an airtight argument: Jack Thompson is teh ghey!1 But really, if you want so see some people argue about it, or at least come up with a good argument in either direction, I'm sure I could find one for you. __________________ [CENTER]

08-11-2006, 08:43 PM	#6
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	It's pointless to argue with this douche. Especially when you have idiots doing it like the tools at G4. Even someone with a vast amount of videogame knowledge and grasp on how to properly debate would have a hard time. This guy is a lawyer and as much as we all rag on him for being a moron, he's not a stupid person. I can't believe G4 pulled some crap like this. Just what they needed to do. Pull this ass back into the limelight when he was quiet. Thanks, G4! Not only are you all a bunch of know-nothing idiots, but you also made our community look as bad as Thompson. Fckers. It also drives me insane that Rockstar keeps pulling this sht! They're making videogames look awful and they just KEEP IT UP! What a stupid idea "Bully" is. They're just doing this to piss more people off and try and be edgy. They're a complete joke.

08-11-2006, 09:25 PM	#7
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	The thought of watching that makes me feel like crying... so I'm not even going to. G4 and Thompson are on the same level of stupidity when it comes to gaming. One knows nothing, and one tries to act like they know everything.

08-11-2006, 09:33 PM	#8
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	What is it that you guys have against g4? I've heard of that channel but never watched it.

08-11-2006, 09:36 PM	#9
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	What's wrong with g4? geesh. Where should we start?

08-12-2006, 02:44 AM	#13
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,759	I've only seen the trailer for Bully and that looks surprisingly funny. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

08-15-2006, 10:36 PM	#14
~~Toonami Tom~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 4,939	I don't understand why Jack is upset. Here's what Jack needs to understand: The ESRB rates video games. It is the freedom of people if they decide to buy a video game, no matter the game's content. Parents should decide if a game is ok for their kid/kids to play. Only a person with major problems would do something violent based on what happens in a video game. End of story. I think Jack wants to make it illegal for video games with content he doesn't like to be made. He probably wants all video games to be shown to him, so he can decide if it's ok to be released. I think that's what his ultimate dream would be, and that's insane. I think the video game industry should be left alone, let them do whatever they want. Just as long as the ESRB rates the games to tell people the content, which they are doing. Why is that so hard for Jack to understand? Do you guys think I'm right? The only time a video game maker should get in trouble is when they sneak something bad in and not tell about it. Example: the "Hot Coffee" thing in the GTA video game. Last edited by Toonami Tom; 08-15-2006 at 10:46 PM.

08-15-2006, 10:46 PM	#15
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I have a bit of a story about this. Kind of. I was in EB. A mom was buying an Xbox game for her daughter. 50 Cent Bulletproof. She didn't bother to look at the game case. Didn't bother to look at the rating. Luckily the EB clerk brought it to her attention and after reading her the various things listed in the game to make it M rated (drug use, violence, language etc etc.) the mom seemed shocked. She told the guy to put the game away because she wasn't going to buy it. Now how many times has a parent been in the same situation, but the clerk or sales person did nothing? I really think there needs to be a crack down on this. Parents just aren't aware of the ESRB. It needs to be brought to their attention by either, A) Having commercials aired on TV, B) Having that tiny little ESRB sign they have in most stores replaced with a large and detailed sign, C) Making it mandatory for anyone selling a game to provide information about said game before purchase, or D) All of the above.

08-15-2006, 10:50 PM	#16
~~Toonami Tom~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 4,939	I agree with you Peanut. That would solve the problem of parents not knowing about ratings.

08-16-2006, 10:17 AM	#17
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	Penny Arcade's Gabe is currently, (or recently was) making ads to make awareness of the ESRB. There are more, but i can't find links to them, aside from the preview that has nothing about ESRB on them. But I agree, if more parents knew about it, there wouldn't be as much of a problem. But I know at Target and Wal Mart when a movie or game is rung up, and is either R, or M, you get carded. I, myself was carded the first time for Shaun of The Dead about a year or two ago. And I just got carded for Dead Rising. But there needs to be more than just those little window stickers on the game racks explaining what E, T, M, A+ are. __________________ Stupendous Monster

08-16-2006, 07:08 PM	#18
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	I expected it to be funny, but that was just sad. D= __________________

09-01-2006, 09:08 PM	#20
~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Seventh Layer of Hell Posts: 1,929	I saw that debate and I'm glad someone like Adam Sessler finally stood up to that asshat.