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*Drtooth* · 10-30-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Master Chief

I figured it was only a matter of time before someone mentioned Goku and 'that' Bulma scene from DragonBall.

And they couldn't even do that crap here on Family Guy! And this is an older children's show.

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If I never go another day without seeing another generic looking anime character, stupid chibi face, or spiky haired fruitcup, it still won't have been long enough.

Funny thing. I try to go to more Japanese shows AGAINST those stereotypes. That's why I love One Piece. It doesn't even look like a stereotypical Anime. I guess it was spikey haired Sayan Goku that brought that one over. Personally, I hope to NEVER EVER see another half assed Pokemon Knock off, and some decent stuff for a change.

Mandi-chan · 10-30-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Underoath740

How do the mangas compare to the t.v. show? Are they more mature? Follow the same story line? etc...

The anime is just too damn long, the pacing sucks.

I enjoy the manga much more (thanks to my sister who has been collecting it lately...). We haven't made it to the DBZ part of the manga yet, so I can't comment on that...but the pacing and story just seems a lot more enjoyable in the manga.

*Drtooth* · 10-31-2006, 01:28 PM

That's the problem with Animes and mangas. A lot of things are added to keep the animation from getting ahead of the monthly comic chapters. I can only bring up one example. The Majin Buu segment where Goten and Trunks finally perform a successful fushion, they go off to fight Buu. In the cartoon, a long battle sequence ensues, they come back, beat up. In the comic, 2 pannels after they leave, they return beat up. I think the comic made it much funnier.

I know the original Dragon ball filled out storylines with extra episodes, but I feel they were at least entertaining and funny. Like when they got to the amusement Park and a Master theif poses as a fortune teller to steal the Dragon Balls. Goku drops his pants.

Yamcha: Come on Goku! Every one knows about thoseballs.

*Spitfire* · 11-01-2006, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie

You mean those DBZ episodes get LONGER?!

Yeah they cut out some dialog of them talking about fighting, and a few shots of them staring at one another.

Oh wait that's the entire show

Mandi-chan · 11-02-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Yeah they cut out some dialog of them talking about fighting, and a few shots of them staring at one another.

Oh wait that's the entire show

LOL, that's so true!

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-12-2006, 12:34 PM

Why so much hate for Dragon Ball GT...o, and how much are Vegeta and Trunks featured in that series? Is'nt Trunks one of the main characters in Gt?

*DrSpengler* · 11-12-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Underoath740

Why so much hate for Dragon Ball GT...o, and how much are Vegeta and Trunks featured in that series? Is'nt Trunks one of the main characters in Gt?

Yes, as I recall.

Trunks was more heavily featured during the actual "grand tour" arc (or as they were released in America, "the lost episodes") while Vegeta spends more time on Earth fighting Baby and the Dragons.

As I said before, I wasn't too thrilled with DBZ after the Frieza arc ended, so GT wasn't my cup of tea. The Grand Tour arc can be a bit painful. It tries to go back to the playful days of Dragonball but the writing isn't half as good.

The ending also depresses the hell out of me.

*Mecha Cow* · 11-12-2006, 01:35 PM

GT is really, really bad. It felt like some kind of crappy fanfiction, and I guess in a way it was. It really makes no sense at all, even by the extremely low DBZ standards.

*ZariusTwo* · 11-12-2006, 01:39 PM

GT is really a rehash of past glories, with lousy endings, think Transformers: Headmasters in terms of outright main character rape. It has no reason to exist, and nothing progresses forward, the only shocking thing about GT is the amount of downers for every character. That being said, it's probably the only DB series anywhere where Android 18 actually emotes, and to the writer's credit, it's one of the best scenes in the series.

...And it turned Pan into probably the most annoying DB character ever. That's hard to do for any female in an anime. Pan was charming in her brief kindergarden apperances near the epilouge of DBZ, and it's that Pan that fanfiction writers remember and draw years later when there pairing her with Trunks, not the obnoxious one in GT.

*DrSpengler* · 11-12-2006, 02:37 PM

Yeah, it really says something about the quality of a TV show if Funimation had to go out of their way to "lose" the first half of the series and release it beginning with the Baby saga.

*Mecha Cow* · 11-12-2006, 03:19 PM

They actually skipped the actual GT part in the US?

Those were probably the 'best' episodes of the series.

Jon · 11-12-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

They actually skipped the actual GT part in the US?

Those were probably the 'best' episodes of the series.

Yeah, apparently (from what I've read) they wanted to get to a more 'action' part of the series (and skip the 'universe trek'). Feeling more viewers would get into it from that.

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-12-2006, 04:17 PM

This is a bummer, I was actually looking forward to checking out the Dragon Ball Gt series, considering I thought Dragon Ball z was pretty cool, but though there are episodes I havent seen yet, I ultimately know what happens at the end of all the arcs, making watching them kinda useless....is Dragon Ball gt worth checking out at all? Maybe I should just check out some Dragon Ball, I havent seen too much of that one either...bleh.

*Mecha Cow* · 11-12-2006, 04:20 PM

Nah, I think watching GT will just leave a bad taste in your mouth. Like I said, it's like a bad fanfic. From what I've seen DB is a lot more fun.

*DrSpengler* · 11-12-2006, 04:21 PM

I'd definately watch GT only as a last resort if you have no other material to satiate your Dragonball fix.

If you haven't seen all of the original Dragonball, I'd highly recommend you watc that, first. It's very fun, and maybe a little too silly at times, but towards the end (the Picollo and Picollo Jr sagas) it gets pretty dark.

GT had a few good ideas, like bringing back the last of the Tuffles to seek revenge on Vegeta and the rest of the Saiyans, but was executed very poorly.

**Barkworm** · 11-13-2006, 02:17 AM

I haven't seen much of GT but I got the impression that every single plotline was just a rehash of an earlier DB/DBZ story. Like that one episode in which this (actually harmless) monster threatens to kill the villagers if they don't give him a beautiful girl? Yeah.

*Drtooth* · 11-13-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

I'd definately watch GT only as a last resort if you have no other material to satiate your Dragonball fix.

If you haven't seen all of the original Dragonball, I'd highly recommend you watc that, first. It's very fun, and maybe a little too silly at times, but towards the end (the Picollo and Picollo Jr sagas) it gets pretty dark.

Speaking of which, Do you buy the DVD's, or diod you see them another way? I'm asking because I really want to get the saga in which Goku fights the red Ribbon Army, and Meets up with Arale-chan and everyone from Dr. Slump. I have the movie box set, and she's midway toward the end of Mystical Adventure.

I'm pretty disappointed that Funimation didn't release ANY of the Slump series. I don't think it would be a hit, but I guess the DBZ collectors would get a kick out of it.

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Yeah, apparently (from what I've read) they wanted to get to a more 'action' part of the series (and skip the 'universe trek'). Feeling more viewers would get into it from that.

Heh! Isn't that why they skipped the ENTIRE Dragonball cartoon and whent right to Z? I do want to check out the Pilaf episode, though...

*DrSpengler* · 11-13-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

Speaking of which, Do you buy the DVD's, or diod you see them another way? I'm asking because I really want to get the saga in which Goku fights the red Ribbon Army, and Meets up with Arale-chan and everyone from Dr. Slump. I have the movie box set, and she's midway toward the end of Mystical Adventure.

I'm pretty disappointed that Funimation didn't release ANY of the Slump series. I don't think it would be a hit, but I guess the DBZ collectors would get a kick out of it.

I first saw the show through bootleg VHS tapes and never bought the DVDs. I'm tempted too, especially for the Picollo saga, but the money is a little too much. I've been content just buying the Movies (have them all, finally).

The Dr. Slump crossover episode was pretty funny, as I recall. I especially liked the fake Superman character.

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Heh! Isn't that why they skipped the ENTIRE Dragonball cartoon and whent right to Z? I do want to check out the Pilaf episode, though...

Well, not the entire cartoon. They got through 13 episodes and the Curse of the Blood Rubies movie before they decided to skip ahead to DBZ.

Doppleganger · 11-13-2006, 02:47 PM

Not to step on anyone's toes or anything but as far as Dragonball Z is concerned the show is quite horrible. Goku as the hero just bugs me. He is careless and unconcerned with consequences. "Oooooh this guy's power level is so high, I can't wait to find fight him!" IE His battle with Cell. He allows this menace to grow stronger and stronger just to satisfy his warrior urges?? He could destroy the planet (and I think he does) and all Goku cares about is fighting a "worthy opponent". But there is no need for concern because the dragon balls will always be there to resurrect the planet! People can die. People can suffer. But the Dragon Balls will always resurrect them. Ugh! At least in Dragon BAll GT (for as terrible and pointless as it was) gave consequences to misusing the Dragon Balls so much.

Oh and what people have mentioned about the long drawn out fights. XP

And is it me or do they just tack on stories to gain more profit. I just saw some movie called "Fusion Reborn". WTF?? O.O

Heheheh and why oh why do I watch this anime if I hate it so much? Well...I don't.

It's weird and I don't get it most of the time but I'm guessing that you're not supposed to. XD

*Drtooth* · 11-13-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

The Dr. Slump crossover episode was pretty funny, as I recall. I especially liked the fake Superman character.

Ah yes! Suppaiman. He eats pickled plums to get NO super powers. I've only seen 2 episodes of the real show. One actually, I think, could have been a movie. He was in the movie. I really like how Viz at least released the books up here. I think Slump is highly underrated. Plus, the Doc looks like me so much, it's freaky.

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Well, not the entire cartoon. They got through 13 episodes and the Curse of the Blood Rubies movie before they decided to skip ahead to DBZ.

I have that box set. Cost me 6 bucks at WalMart. I remember seeing the episode where Oolong first appeared back in the 90's. It sticks out in my mind since Goku piddled on the tree. I find it odd they didn't censor that. It wouldn't have made sense without it... but then again the part where Bulma has random ants in her underwear was pretty stupid. I guess they liked the action segments better, so that's why classic DB didn't catch on.

10-31-2006, 01:28 PM	#23
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	That's the problem with Animes and mangas. A lot of things are added to keep the animation from getting ahead of the monthly comic chapters. I can only bring up one example. The Majin Buu segment where Goten and Trunks finally perform a successful fushion, they go off to fight Buu. In the cartoon, a long battle sequence ensues, they come back, beat up. In the comic, 2 pannels after they leave, they return beat up. I think the comic made it much funnier. I know the original Dragon ball filled out storylines with extra episodes, but I feel they were at least entertaining and funny. Like when they got to the amusement Park and a Master theif poses as a fortune teller to steal the Dragon Balls. Goku drops his pants. Yamcha: Come on Goku! Every one knows about thoseballs. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

11-12-2006, 01:35 PM	#28
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	GT is really, really bad. It felt like some kind of crappy fanfiction, and I guess in a way it was. It really makes no sense at all, even by the extremely low DBZ standards. __________________

11-12-2006, 01:39 PM	#29
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	GT is really a rehash of past glories, with lousy endings, think Transformers: Headmasters in terms of outright main character rape. It has no reason to exist, and nothing progresses forward, the only shocking thing about GT is the amount of downers for every character. That being said, it's probably the only DB series anywhere where Android 18 actually emotes, and to the writer's credit, it's one of the best scenes in the series. ...And it turned Pan into probably the most annoying DB character ever. That's hard to do for any female in an anime. Pan was charming in her brief kindergarden apperances near the epilouge of DBZ, and it's that Pan that fanfiction writers remember and draw years later when there pairing her with Trunks, not the obnoxious one in GT. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-12-2006, 02:37 PM	#30
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Yeah, it really says something about the quality of a TV show if Funimation had to go out of their way to "lose" the first half of the series and release it beginning with the Baby saga. Last edited by DrSpengler; 11-12-2006 at 04:10 PM.

11-12-2006, 03:19 PM	#31
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	They actually skipped the actual GT part in the US? Those were probably the 'best' episodes of the series. __________________

11-12-2006, 12:34 PM	#26
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Why so much hate for Dragon Ball GT...o, and how much are Vegeta and Trunks featured in that series? Is'nt Trunks one of the main characters in Gt?

11-12-2006, 04:17 PM	#33
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	This is a bummer, I was actually looking forward to checking out the Dragon Ball Gt series, considering I thought Dragon Ball z was pretty cool, but though there are episodes I havent seen yet, I ultimately know what happens at the end of all the arcs, making watching them kinda useless....is Dragon Ball gt worth checking out at all? Maybe I should just check out some Dragon Ball, I havent seen too much of that one either...bleh.

11-12-2006, 04:20 PM	#34
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Nah, I think watching GT will just leave a bad taste in your mouth. Like I said, it's like a bad fanfic. From what I've seen DB is a lot more fun. __________________

11-12-2006, 04:21 PM	#35
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	I'd definately watch GT only as a last resort if you have no other material to satiate your Dragonball fix. If you haven't seen all of the original Dragonball, I'd highly recommend you watc that, first. It's very fun, and maybe a little too silly at times, but towards the end (the Picollo and Picollo Jr sagas) it gets pretty dark. GT had a few good ideas, like bringing back the last of the Tuffles to seek revenge on Vegeta and the rest of the Saiyans, but was executed very poorly.

11-13-2006, 02:17 AM	#36
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	I haven't seen much of GT but I got the impression that every single plotline was just a rehash of an earlier DB/DBZ story. Like that one episode in which this (actually harmless) monster threatens to kill the villagers if they don't give him a beautiful girl? Yeah. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

11-13-2006, 02:47 PM	#39
Doppleganger Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 687	Not to step on anyone's toes or anything but as far as Dragonball Z is concerned the show is quite horrible. Goku as the hero just bugs me. He is careless and unconcerned with consequences. "Oooooh this guy's power level is so high, I can't wait to find fight him!" IE His battle with Cell. He allows this menace to grow stronger and stronger just to satisfy his warrior urges?? He could destroy the planet (and I think he does) and all Goku cares about is fighting a "worthy opponent". But there is no need for concern because the dragon balls will always be there to resurrect the planet! People can die. People can suffer. But the Dragon Balls will always resurrect them. Ugh! At least in Dragon BAll GT (for as terrible and pointless as it was) gave consequences to misusing the Dragon Balls so much. Oh and what people have mentioned about the long drawn out fights. XP And is it me or do they just tack on stories to gain more profit. I just saw some movie called "Fusion Reborn". WTF?? O.O Heheheh and why oh why do I watch this anime if I hate it so much? Well...I don't. It's weird and I don't get it most of the time but I'm guessing that you're not supposed to. XD __________________