33 Confirmed Killed in Shooting at VA Tech

[jeff the cheff]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD

Edited out. -VOLTRON

You're a ****ing idiot. I'm suprised you've lasted 86 posts here...

What I don't understand...Why did they not cancel class? The first shooting was at about 7 am, and the next shooting was later that day. I would not go to class if I knew there was a shooting on campus, and I think the campus should've gone on lockdown earlier.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Originally Posted by jeff the cheff

You're a ****ing idiot. I'm suprised you've lasted 86 posts here...

What I don't understand...Why did they not cancel class? The first shooting was at about 7 am, and the next shooting was later that day. I would not go to class if I knew there was a shooting on campus, and I think the campus should've gone on lockdown earlier.

Apparently they did cancel class and lockeddown campus early...but then it was lifted and classes resumed... I guess? Seems very stupid, especially since they didn't find the gunman. I'm not sure why the lockdown was lifted but if I heard there was a shooting I sure as hell wouldn't be going to class.

[Swany]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD

Edited out. -VOLTRON

What the hell man, theres no excuse for racism. Did you not stop to think that people on this forum are of diferent ethniticities.

[愛]

I thought they said they canceled class until Tuesday?

[Swany]

I still can't beleive this though. How can someone make the desicion to kill another.

Why is it always schools?

[愛]

School is a stressful place, and it is also where a lot of juvenile interaction takes place. It's also where a lot of fights happen. Eventually, they turn to extreme violence. That's my theory.

[iris]

They thought the first shooting was isolated, and I can't blame them. Who's going to predict a shooting spree in sleepy Blacksburg? They had locked down the building where the first shooting happened, for several hours.

Also, VA Tech has nearly 30,000 students, so it's no small decision to cancel classes. In terms of looking for the shooter, it would have been helpful to have most people where they would routinely be on a monday Morning.

I'm told the first victim was the shooter's girlfriend. This is hearsay. And the later killings were random.

[Swany]

Originally Posted by Ai

School is a stressful place, and it is also where a lot of juvenile interaction takes place. It's also where a lot of fights happen. Eventually, they turn to extreme violence. That's my theory.

I dont think so, there was the dunblane massacre where a man just walked into a primary school and opened fire on the kids and teachers. Then shot himself.

[Jester]

Is it really 21? Is that confirmed? Because I just saw another news sourse that was as high as 31...I hope they're both wrong...and the toll is far less.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by jeff the cheff

What I don't understand...Why did they not cancel class? The first shooting was at about 7 am, and the next shooting was later that day. I would not go to class if I knew there was a shooting on campus, and I think the campus should've gone on lockdown earlier.

The first shooting was at 7:15 am....they put the campus in lockdown....but as soon as they started releasing students again some 2 1/2 hours later...BAM! It started again.

[jeff the cheff]

It's easier than you think to cancel classes at a large college...my school is about the same size and snow day cancellations are announced on email a few hours before classes start. This time of the semester only half the seats in class are filled on a normal day, if theres bad weather it's even less...but a shooting? I know I wouldn't go to any classes. But then again they were genius engineering students, so they probably figured they had to go to class.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Originally Posted by Jester

Is it really 21? Is that confirmed? Because I just saw another news sourse that was as high as 31...I hope they're both wrong...and the toll is far less.

When the thread was created the news was reporting 21, but now it's gone up.

[愛]

Originally Posted by Swany

I dont think so, there was the dunblane massacre where a man just walked into a primary school and opened fire on the kids and teachers. Then shot himself.

Um...that was just one instance? Most of the other incidents involved students shooting other students.

And it's saying on most news channels that there's 32 confirmed dead. I'll change the topic title.

[iris]

I wish it were wrong. I'm hearing 32, plus 25-30 related injuries.

[jeff the cheff]

32 including the shooter. So 31 victims, plus the injured.

[Jester]

Ok, so it's 31 (according to Yahoo News and the AP), counting the gunman who was killed. Good grief. These poor students and their families.

[Swany]

Oh man. I still just can't beleive it.

I wonder what actually drove him to do it.
I know its stupid but I need to feel theres a reason for everything, I don't want to think this was an act of random. I dont want to think someone could be so horribly cruel.

[Fledermaus]

I agree, enough with the racism. It doesn't matter who did it or whether they are affiliated with some secret organization. This is "terrorism."

Yeah so tell me the gunman was a troubled, poor young man. Tell me he wanted to make a noble statement about the state of our wretched society. How he wanted to point out the hypocrisy, rebel against the disenfranchisement, punish the decadent pigs, or those who didn't agree with him fully or who represented the lethal threat in his mind. I have all sorts of reasons to be angry. But there are other ways to get that across that don't involve robbing people of their lives, their friends, sons and daughters... Especially in our country. So many people scoff at the idea of freedom of speech in America -- it may not be perfect, our country may do a LOT of things wrong, but we still have a lot more opportunity than most of the world to gather and to express ourselves.

This guy knew what he was doing to target certain buildings, wait, and then as soon as the guard lets down, he targets another. He LOCKS THE DOORS. This is oppression. (And here we are trying to rid it from other corners of the world. ) These monsters are trying to destroy our foundations by scaring us into submission. Telling us we haven't the right to walk around or even stay in our rooms without getting our heads blown off. Can't do this or can't do that, have to live under their thumb until their every whim is met. How do you deal with these people without turning our country into a concentration camp with security cameras monitoring our every move?

I'm actually ticked that the murderer is dead -- now there are some things we'll never know about him.

And all those people... those are human lives. Young people with their whole lives ahead of them. Dreams.

[Swany]

Originally Posted by Fledermaus

I agree, enough with the racism. It doesn't matter who did it or whether they are affiliated with some secret organization. This is "terrorism."

Yeah so tell me the gunman was a troubled, poor young man. Tell me he wanted to make a noble statement about the state of our wretched society. How he wanted to point out the hypocrisy, rebel against the disenfranchisement, punish the decadent pigs, or those who didn't agree with him fully or who represented the lethal threat in his mind. I have all sorts of reasons to be angry. But there are other ways to get that across that don't involve robbing people of their lives, their friends, sons and daughters... Especially in our country. So many people scoff at the idea of freedom of speech in America -- it may not be perfect, our country may do a LOT of things wrong, but we still have a lot more opportunity than most of the world to gather and to express ourselves.

This guy knew what he was doing to target certain buildings, wait, and then as soon as the guard lets down, he targets another. He LOCKS THE DOORS. This is oppression. (And here we are trying to rid it from other corners of the world. ) These monsters are trying to destroy our foundations by scaring us into submission. Telling us we haven't the right to walk around or even stay in our rooms without getting our heads blown off. Can't do this or can't do that, have to live under their thumb until their every whim is met. How do you deal with these people without turning our country into a concentration camp with security cameras monitoring our every move?

I'm actually ticked that the murderer is dead -- now there are some things we'll never know about him.

And all those people... those are human lives. Young people with their whole lives ahead of them. Dreams.

He took the easy way out, coward. 32 lives gone, not to mention their families, friends and what could have been.

[OA]

Unbelieveable....this is such a very sad story...whats scary is that these types of events will continue...

Man, just watched the video where you can clearly hear 27 of the shots going off...terrible...