Which character did you like less, Zach or Howie?

*CyberCubed* · 05-29-2007, 10:04 PM

What old toon character did you like the least?

Irma's friend Howie, who appears in two episodes in a row on Season 4, or Zack the "5th Turtle" who basically worshipped the Turtles existance,had a really ear-grating voice and got into all sorts of mischief?

Thoughts?

*VaughnMichael* · 05-29-2007, 10:06 PM

I hate Zach and all and lord was he annoying but Howie all though in only a few episodes he takes the cake for me...I mean really if they wanted woodie alan they should have just hired the guy lol

*Revan* · 05-29-2007, 10:06 PM

Definately Howie. Could not stand his lame lyrics! Zach was ok because I always wanted to be him but Howie peeved me then and he still does now.

*Roseangelo* · 05-29-2007, 10:07 PM

Howie. Is it bad that as soon as I read his name I started recalling the lyrics to one of his lame songs?

*VaughnMichael* · 05-29-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Howie. Is it bad that as soon as I read his name I started recalling the lyrics to one of his lame songs?

You wanna be a hero!!! like the teeenage mutant niiinja turtles!!

*gobo* · 05-29-2007, 10:23 PM

I hate Zach... a lot. That's all I have to say.

*Revan* · 05-29-2007, 10:24 PM

aw cmon gobo. Didnt you ever feel jealous of him as a boy

*VaughnMichael* · 05-29-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutrino

aw cmon gobo. Didnt you ever feel jealous of him as a boy

I think thats why most people hate Zach...or Codey for that reason or any kid friend of the turtles...but they always dissagree with me..but they go to sleep at night and hug there donatello pillows and say ur my hero don sme day we will meet some day!

*CyberCubed* · 05-29-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Howie. Is it bad that as soon as I read his name I started recalling the lyrics to one of his lame songs?

"Why can't I beeee a teenager with a shell!?"

My god, what were the writers thinking?

*Revan* · 05-29-2007, 10:29 PM

At least the turtles didn't dislike Zach the way they clearly disliked Howie. You could tell when he played his dumb song and the boys interupted him that they were disgusted.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-29-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutrino

At least the turtles didn't dislike Zach the way they clearly disliked Howie. You could tell when he played his dumb song and the boys interupted him that they were disgusted.

very true I think raph was gonna smash his keyboard hahah

*Kendamu* · 05-29-2007, 11:08 PM

Howie, definately. I actually had nothing against Zach since he only showed up once in awhile and didn't sing lame songs.

*Cascadia* · 05-29-2007, 11:09 PM

that is a toss up...but I would go with Howie...he was in 2 episodes but there were in a row unless my brain is tired right now.

SassyGal · 05-29-2007, 11:22 PM

if I have to pick just one it would be Howie. I didn't dislike Zach, but Howie OMG!!! those songs are horrible & the damn things get stuck in your head

*Scandia* · 05-30-2007, 03:57 AM

Was Zach really necessary? OK, so this is envy in part, since who here does not want to be the fifth Turtle?

Regarding Howie- at least he provided Irma some very much needed male company. And I did find his lyrics and antics hilarious.

Anyhow, I think the most heinous character of all is Burne Thompson.

*Katie* · 05-30-2007, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

"Why can't I beeee a teenager with a shell!?"

My god, what were the writers thinking?

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwww I remember that

Now that's going to be stuck in my head all day

Tora_Chan · 05-30-2007, 09:03 AM

Howie, hands down. I didn't like Zach much either, put at least he had was important to the plot in the episodes he appeared in and he didn't sing annoying songs.

MoreCowbell5263 · 05-30-2007, 09:21 AM

Zach bugged the crap outta me, but I actually fast-forwarded through like 6 or 7 of those songs after hearing thirty of them before, thus being the only time I've ever skipped parts in a Ninja Turtles cartoon, even though the show had it's embarassingly corny parts. I love the old cartoon, but some parts are just painful to watch sometimes, and I don't think I'll ever watch a Howie episode again.

*Coola Yagami* · 05-30-2007, 09:42 AM

he's the phantom of the floxy and he's got a lot of moxy
and people say he's still a-lurkin... (lurkin.. lurkin..)
in the studio where he used to be a-workin... (workin..workin...)

Howie was at least funny in a ridicuously bad way, and I liked how he played his songs while the turtles were fighting. Plus, Irma needed a piece, though I doubt Howie was smart enough to even do that... And it was just 2 episodes. Zack was like in 5 or 6??

As for Zach, was annoying as all hell. when I saw the title 'the fifth turtle' I was like 'HOLY CRAPOLA (as not to write words that would get me banned) FIFTH TURTLE??? OMG!! OMG!!' and it turned out to be some punk kid... and he came back in other episodes with a brother, a so-so girlfriend and who knows what else... And c'mon, Night of the Rogues... Shredder hires almost every bad-guy they ever faced together to stomp our heroes... I understand April and Splinter callin in Casey to help.. but zack..?? ZACK??? What the hell is he gonna do??? Hit Slash and Leatherhead with his backpack????

*sdp* · 05-30-2007, 09:48 AM

Zach wasn't that bad, the whole 'kid' sidekick could have been a lot worse. With that in mind I still dislike him. Howie I actually found entertaining so i'd have to choose him. his songs were pretty awful, I guess the episodes were more memorable.

05-29-2007, 10:04 PM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,701	Which character did you like less, Zach or Howie? What old toon character did you like the least? Irma's friend Howie, who appears in two episodes in a row on Season 4, or Zack the "5th Turtle" who basically worshipped the Turtles existance,had a really ear-grating voice and got into all sorts of mischief? Thoughts?

05-29-2007, 10:06 PM	#3
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	Definately Howie. Could not stand his lame lyrics! Zach was ok because I always wanted to be him but Howie peeved me then and he still does now. __________________

05-29-2007, 10:07 PM	#4
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,105	Howie. Is it bad that as soon as I read his name I started recalling the lyrics to one of his lame songs? __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

05-29-2007, 10:23 PM	#6
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I hate Zach... a lot. That's all I have to say. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

05-29-2007, 10:24 PM	#7
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	aw cmon gobo. Didnt you ever feel jealous of him as a boy __________________

05-29-2007, 10:06 PM	#2
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	I hate Zach and all and lord was he annoying but Howie all though in only a few episodes he takes the cake for me...I mean really if they wanted woodie alan they should have just hired the guy lol

05-29-2007, 10:29 PM	#10
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	At least the turtles didn't dislike Zach the way they clearly disliked Howie. You could tell when he played his dumb song and the boys interupted him that they were disgusted. __________________

05-29-2007, 11:08 PM	#12
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Howie, definately. I actually had nothing against Zach since he only showed up once in awhile and didn't sing lame songs.

05-29-2007, 11:09 PM	#13
Cascadia Oregonian in heart & soul Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,731	that is a toss up...but I would go with Howie...he was in 2 episodes but there were in a row unless my brain is tired right now. __________________ Formally known as Scientific freak

05-29-2007, 11:22 PM	#14
SassyGal Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London, Canada Posts: 1,349	if I have to pick just one it would be Howie. I didn't dislike Zach, but Howie OMG!!! those songs are horrible & the damn things get stuck in your head

05-30-2007, 03:57 AM	#15
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Was Zach really necessary? OK, so this is envy in part, since who here does not want to be the fifth Turtle? Regarding Howie- at least he provided Irma some very much needed male company. And I did find his lyrics and antics hilarious. Anyhow, I think the most heinous character of all is Burne Thompson.

05-30-2007, 09:03 AM	#17
Tora_Chan Thug Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 95	Howie, hands down. I didn't like Zach much either, put at least he had was important to the plot in the episodes he appeared in and he didn't sing annoying songs.

05-30-2007, 09:21 AM	#18
MoreCowbell5263 Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Georgia Posts: 300	Zach bugged the crap outta me, but I actually fast-forwarded through like 6 or 7 of those songs after hearing thirty of them before, thus being the only time I've ever skipped parts in a Ninja Turtles cartoon, even though the show had it's embarassingly corny parts. I love the old cartoon, but some parts are just painful to watch sometimes, and I don't think I'll ever watch a Howie episode again. __________________ Hope these guys aren't lumberjacks! No joke...the only thing safe in the woods...would be the trees!

05-30-2007, 09:42 AM	#19
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,646	he's the phantom of the floxy and he's got a lot of moxy and people say he's still a-lurkin... (lurkin.. lurkin..) in the studio where he used to be a-workin... (workin..workin...) Howie was at least funny in a ridicuously bad way, and I liked how he played his songs while the turtles were fighting. Plus, Irma needed a piece, though I doubt Howie was smart enough to even do that... And it was just 2 episodes. Zack was like in 5 or 6?? As for Zach, was annoying as all hell. when I saw the title 'the fifth turtle' I was like 'HOLY CRAPOLA (as not to write words that would get me banned) FIFTH TURTLE??? OMG!! OMG!!' and it turned out to be some punk kid... and he came back in other episodes with a brother, a so-so girlfriend and who knows what else... And c'mon, Night of the Rogues... Shredder hires almost every bad-guy they ever faced together to stomp our heroes... I understand April and Splinter callin in Casey to help.. but zack..?? ZACK??? What the hell is he gonna do??? Hit Slash and Leatherhead with his backpack????

05-30-2007, 09:48 AM	#20
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,122	Zach wasn't that bad, the whole 'kid' sidekick could have been a lot worse. With that in mind I still dislike him. Howie I actually found entertaining so i'd have to choose him. his songs were pretty awful, I guess the episodes were more memorable. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server