If they revived the old show...

[gobo]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

I thought Laird didn't have any say in the classic toon franchise?

I completely to comment on this. In the past year, I've gone from thinking exactly what you said to assuming he was just too embarassed to claim any responsibility for the degradation of his original vision. Y'know, like it helped him sleep at night or something. Seems rather ridiculous, but...

[Matt]

I'd like to see a final battle over several episodes. Krang, Shredder and General Tragg carry out a full scale invasion of Earth, with the Technodrome (re-built of course), and maybe Krang return to his original form for a "Divide and Conquer" style battle. So we can actually close the book on the saga.

I think the origins are a good idea, mybe merge them with the final confrontation somehow.

[Scandia]

I'd love to see the OT character designs be incorporated into the NT. The Turtles can keep their belts, wrist/knee/elbow pads, and weapon handle colors...but I want to see a return of the cuddly Turtles from the OT whose eyes you can see.

And bring in OT characters such as Irma and company.

[Spawn Guy]

Originally Posted by Scandia

I'd love to see the OT character designs be incorporated into the NT. The Turtles can keep their belts, wrist/knee/elbow pads, and weapon handle colors...but I want to see a return of the cuddly Turtles from the OT whose eyes you can see.

Tell you what, I'll make Batman cuddly and give him big old baby blue eyes. That'll look cool. Really.

[Scandia]

Batman's different. Bruce Wayne is a human being with a big chip on his shoulder, a vendetta, and possibly PTSD. Turtles- at least red eared sliders- are supposed to be cute. While they do not have to be adorable as if they were plooshies, at least make them appear not as angular as in the NT. The 2007 movie designs are fine- you can see the eyes but the Turtles still look ready for action.

[Spawn Guy]

Yes, but take away the blank eyed look and he looses all that. Same for the guys. As for the "cute" thing, I'm watching MUTANT NINJAS. Not Disney's My Little Turtles. The angular designs work perfectly well for guys who are supposed to have muscles and bulk. If they do add in pupils at least make it look like the Red Sky animation or the sleek CGI look with the angular glare. I don't want to loose the stylised ninja look for a bunch of blow up toys.

In all honesty the word cuddely has no place next to the word ninja.

[Blithe]

Originally Posted by Scandia

Batman's different. Bruce Wayne is a human being with a big chip on his shoulder, a vendetta, and possibly PTSD. Turtles- at least red eared sliders- are supposed to be cute. While they do not have to be adorable as if they were plooshies, at least make them appear not as angular as in the NT. The 2007 movie designs are fine- you can see the eyes but the Turtles still look ready for action.

So, I guess you didn't dig Michael Zulli's interpretation of mutant turtles? Raw, wicked, beautiful stuff!

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

They should just syndicate the old toon on Nick, so they would have one show that wasn't pure ass.

Edited for truthiness ^^


I still stand by my idea that the series finale of the current run of TMNT (after even the 2008 stuff) should have Turtles of that series and the Turtles of the old series crossing over. It would be a kickass sendoff for fans.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by The S

Edited for truthiness ^^


I still stand by my idea that the series finale of the current run of TMNT (after even the 2008 stuff) should have Turtles of that series and the Turtles of the old series crossing over. It would be a kickass sendoff for fans.

There is so much wrong with that idea I don't even know where to start. OT and 2k3 should never crossover, IMO

[Sage Ninja]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

While I believe he has no say really in the dvd releases he has made it clear that he owns all of the characters.
He just chooses not to use any of them because he simply feels they don't belong in what his vision of the ninja turtles are.

hmm, I had the impression that he didn't have any say in this series since it went in such a diffrent manner than what his "vision" was. In a interview on the early 2k3 series dvds, he says how the fact the turtles where always running around in public in day light drove him crazy. Well if it bothered him so much why didn't he pull his weight around and have the show stop doing that? I just a little confused.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

hmm, I had the impression that he didn't have any say in this series since it went in such a diffrent manner than what his "vision" was. In a interview on the early 2k3 series dvds, he says how the fact the turtles where always running around in public in day light drove him crazy. Well if it bothered him so much why didn't he pull his weight around and have the show stop doing that? I just a little confused.

No you miss understood what I was saying what I mean is he still owns all of the characters but I'm pretty sure they got a bum deal back in the 80's reguarding the toon when it came to how much say over things they had or perhaps they where simply just to busy to tend to everything going on.
You can read what Peter has to say on the matter here:
http://www.planetracers.com/blast/prblast0073.html

[Scandia]

Blithe- I have not read Michael Zulli's TMNT comics yet. I just hear they are an excellent interpretation.

I did not come up with the word "cuddly" to describe the OT Turtle design. I do not know what else to put. Remember English is my second language!!!!! I just think the NT design- especially in Fast Forward- is way too angular and looks too much like a drawing rather than if it could be 3D. The new movie one works much better. And at least the roundness of the OT Turtles added some 3Dness to it.

In Neutrino's banner, the Turtles look more rounded and thus more like they could stand up and you could touch them. But in Fast Forward, they are completely and totally angular.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

There is so much wrong with that idea I don't even know where to start. OT and 2k3 should never crossover, IMO

(Scratches head) I don't see anything wrong with it. Sounds like you just don't want your Coke mixed with your Pepsi.

[odupianist]

It would be a silly episode if they crossed over, but funny I think. THey could crossover at the Battle Nexus

[Spawn Guy]

No thanks. Not to totally knock the idea but after alien invasions, massive demon fights and saving the future I think the last thing we need is dimensonal travel. And chances are a lot of people'd bitch about not having the old toon voices or look, since 4Kids dosen't use outside voice actors and the live comic book look their using is perfectly fine. And in all honestly the new toon dosen't really need anything from the old toon.

[General Traag]

Of course it does, it needs krang and the technodrome instead of that imposter ch'rell.


(ch'rell was still quite cool though)

[Spike Spiegel]

I would love to see the new toon rerun somewhere...or maybe a direct to DVD release.

But we'll be lucky to get something cool for the new season of the NT.

[jenna]

I love the OT, but I think it has had its day. A large portion of us were kids when it came out, and our love for the tmnt was born, but even with FF, I think the turtles has universally taken on a more mature image (although FF pushes the boundaries!).

The goofiness of the OT worked in the 80s, but kids today probably wouldn't get it - I mean, it doesn't involve any living sponges in the sea. And is it me? or do kids today not have the imagination required to accept the tmnt.

It clear from these forums that most tmnt fans are adults, and the adults in the 80s who loved the comics weren't all that impressed with the OT because it was so.... different.

In a nutshell, the OT is very special and I will keep and love my OT dvds forever, but it is no longer the essence of the turtles. To rerelease it or release a similar version would be a step backwards. (which, I think FF was). In my opinion, each screen incarnation should bring the tmnt closer to the Mirage soul, which so far has been best achieved by 2k3.

However, I wouldn't complain if they wanted to screen the old episodes on TV. I would be there with my hard drive recorder and my finger hovering over the 'record' button.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

No thanks. Not to totally knock the idea but after alien invasions, massive demon fights and saving the future I think the last thing we need is dimensonal travel. And chances are a lot of people'd bitch about not having the old toon voices or look, since 4Kids dosen't use outside voice actors and the live comic book look their using is perfectly fine. And in all honestly the new toon dosen't really need anything from the old toon.

... But the series already has dimension travel. That's what the whole Battle Nexus and Ultimate Drako stuff was about!

[Spawn Guy]

Alternate turtles then. I know they probably won't do it, but they could hold off on the major sci fi world shacking stuff, and crossing over with the Old Toon is something like that. And I'm with Jenna. Let the new toon be it's own thing. The old toon had it's day and it did perfectly fine. Let it lie.