Tales of the TMNT #40 - Page 5

diegojourdan · 08-05-2007, 11:08 PM

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most comic shops consider TMNT to be a joke and hardly order any issues

Is this true? I never got that impression from the many comic-shops i went to in different States while in the US...

On my end i'm trying to make Tales #40 as commercially attractive as possible, now it's up to the fans to prove comic-shop owners wrong

Of course, if you wanna write Mirage and tell them "we want more Diego!", there's nothing wrong with that i guess

*Roseangelo* · 08-05-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by diegojourdan

Is this true? I never got that impression from the many comic-shops i went to in different States while in the US...

Yeah, it's pretty true. As you know, Vol. 4 sold miserably and lost money (not surprising, as it is rather unattractive and as it is most hardcore fans don't like the story if they can manage to ignore the art, I can't imagine a casual fan would find any interest in it at all).

Tales has only started doing relatively well in the wake of the new movie, I believe. But it's hard to get shops to commit to a title that changes with each issue.

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On my end i'm trying to make Tales #40 as commercially attractive as possible, now it's up to the fans to prove comic-shop owners wrong

I don't doubt that #40 will be fantastic and my subscription with the local comic shop guarantees that I'll be getting one. But my comic book guy would never ever order more copies of the book than what he's got orders for. I honestly don't blame him because while some issues would easily sell off-the-shelf, the title isn't consistent enough for him to be guaranteed that every issue will sell off-the-shelf and his shop isn't large enough for him to be able to afford sitting inventory.

*Raph's Girl* · 11-02-2007, 04:53 PM

Hey all. Just a heads up that Midtown is listing Tales of the TMNT 40 as coming out on Wednesday, November 7th.

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“Silent Knight” - It’s the year 2025, Christmas Eve… a forlorn Raphael makes his way through the sewers of Tokyo… and finds an abandoned baby. What should be a simple trip to the local hospital turns into a deadly gauntlet as Raphael and the child are attacked by… The Foot!

*Scandia* · 11-02-2007, 04:59 PM

Yeppers, the bloke who works at the comic book store told me it comes out next week. I was like "YES!" with my arm.

Raph'N'Roll · 11-04-2007, 03:12 PM

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diegojourdan: This is probably my last Tales ish for a LONG while, as Mirage decided to give most of 2008 Tales issues to staff members

Well that's a real shame, your art style is fantastic and this issue has a #36 vibe off it, with it's hardcore ninja action!

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diegojourdan: Of course, if you wanna write Mirage and tell them "we want more Diego!", there's nothing wrong with that i guess

Unfortunately with Peter Laird's attitude of "Don't buy it if you don't like it " he doesn't seem to be taking notice of what the fans want from the comic, so that would probably go unheard.

*Roseangelo* · 11-07-2007, 07:24 PM

This issue is awesome.

Great work Diego, and I just love the ending.

*DrSpengler* · 11-07-2007, 08:21 PM

Really good. I typically don't like silent issues since I breeze through them in 30 seconds (I can only stare at the art for so long). This one held my interest, though.

The ending seemed kind of weird. I guess the truce got called off at some point.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-07-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

The ending seemed kind of weird. I guess the truce got called off at some point.

I took it not as the truce being called off, but just Karai wanting to play one last hand with the Turtles, for whatever reason.

I liked the issue, loved the art, loved Raph actually being allowed to go balls-out for an issue (something I would hope we'd see in the Raphael mini-series).

The ending, though, yeah... I can swallow that a 90 year old Karai, in the mire of her old age, might want to relive the old days of fighting against the TMNT just for the -- wait, what? Under Karai, the Foot (either NY branch or otherwise) never screwed with the TMNT. If anything, Karai's "those good old days" would be her fighting with the TMNT against a different enemy.

Digressing, and maybe I'm picking at nits, but the ending kind of left me with the same kind of taste in my mouth as the recent Casey issue... sort of a, "Hm, that was entertaining, but what was the point?"

But in the end, we get nice art, a grizzled Future Raph, lots of grit, actual ninja fighting paneled/choreographed in proper "Return to NY" style, even some tones (even if they're the barely-there/quickie Photoshoppy ones)... so I can't knock it too much.

*DrSpengler* · 11-07-2007, 09:49 PM

Something I noticed...

The solicits for the issue say it takes place in 2025 but the issue itself says its 2060.

2025 seemed to make more sense, given that Karai is alive and all, but 2060 is what it says and what it says is, well, what it says.

Maybe they figured 2025 wasn't far enough into the future so they kicked it up a notch.

diegojourdan · 11-07-2007, 10:52 PM

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This issue is awesome.

Great work Diego, and I just love the ending.

Yeah, I AM McLovin' !!!

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Something I noticed...

The solicits for the issue say it takes place in 2025 but the issue itself says its 2060.

2025 seemed to make more sense, given that Karai is alive and all, but 2060 is what it says and what it says is, well, what it says.

Maybe they figured 2025 wasn't far enough into the future so they kicked it up a notch.

Sorry man, never been good at math

Fledermaus · 11-07-2007, 10:57 PM

Holy CRAP it's out already???

I've been looking forward to this for months.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-07-2007, 11:00 PM

Well, we know Karai was old enough to have a daughter who was upwards of 16 years old, and this was in the 1980s in the continuity. So yeah... she'd be real old in 2060.

But then, I'm not an expert in modern, life-extending 2060 medicine. Are you?

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 11-08-2007, 08:29 AM

Foot action, Raph, eyepatchs, kickin' butt, all-out violent fights, Karai...

Ah! Reminds me of the good ol' days of Volumes 1 and 3!

I give it two green thumbs-up!

*oldmanwinters* · 11-09-2007, 10:03 AM

I think Diego's art has made great strides even since Tales #37. The ink and toning job on this comic is well done, and provides a good sense of depth to the panels. The snow effect works very well, like the Michelangelo Christmas special from way back.

Time Mistress · 11-09-2007, 03:39 PM

Good issue Diego! Very moody and great to see Raph cut loose for once. And the inclusion of robot foot soldiers harkening back to the OT was a nice touch.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-09-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Time Mistress

Good issue Diego! Very moody and great to see Raph cut loose for once. And the inclusion of robot foot soldiers harkening back to the OT was a nice touch.

*shakes head*

Wait, those were robots? Did I not properly read the issue? I guess that makes sense, since Karai sending flesh and blood Foot against Raphael to be killed would seem a little bloodthirsty just for bloodthirsty's sake.

Scratch a few points off the grittiness scale for me on #40, then, but still a solid issue.

diegojourdan · 11-09-2007, 09:37 PM

Thank y'all for the nice comments! I'm very proud everybody seems to like the issue so far

*Raph's Girl* · 11-10-2007, 03:56 AM

Diego: Awesome artwork!

And WOOT WOOT!! Karai!! I did NOT expect to see Karai!!

So by 2060 Karai has a great-granddaughter. Calculating everything together and she'd have a kid of her own soon. Unless she had one in the missing 16 years. *blinks* Or the daughter of hers who died in CAW wasn't her only child.... the mind boggles.

Karai didn't age well..oh dear...

Several things I liked:
1: Raph's face upon smelling Motoko's diaper...ooh.. stiiinky!

2: Raph getting those nice er street ladies to change the diaper and get milk.

3: Raph actually getting a posse!
4: Karai!

Did ya'll get the idea for the name Motoko from anime?? There's several Anime that have a character named Motoko. Like Love Hina and Ghost In the Shell.

I have a couple questions tho. Why was Motoko in the sewer anyways?? Did Karai know Raph was in Tokyo?

I just looked up what the name Motoko means (I always do when I come across unusual names):
Motoko: Child of the Capital
The Japanese name Motoko may be written with the characters for "metropolis; capital" (moto) and "child" (ko). Other possibilities include "tree trunk" or "elementary; principle" for 'moto' and "child" (ko).

Spawn Guy · 11-10-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Berger

Howdy folks,

Happy Thanksgiving! Ye gods how the time flies by when you're trying to put out a monthly book (which we sometimes manage to do on schedule-insert your own "Mirage is late" joke here). I'd love to go cold turkey on missing deadlines, but unfortunately it's just something that happens with a staff as wee as ours is (insert your own wee staff joke here-or better yet don't). Hopefully things will improve next year(It's out New Year's Resolution-that and eating more green vegetables), which isn't too far away now! Did I mention that time flies?

My fellow fans, I do believe we're being called out.

*oldmanwinters* · 11-10-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

My fellow fans, I do believe we're being called out.

Let me just say how much I appreciate the loyalty and longevity of the Mirage staff. Also, from what I've seen, most guys who have worked on a Turtles book are very approachable, humble, and grateful.

11-02-2007, 04:59 PM	#84
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Yeppers, the bloke who works at the comic book store told me it comes out next week. I was like "YES!" with my arm. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

11-07-2007, 07:24 PM	#86
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,119	This issue is awesome. Great work Diego, and I just love the ending. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

11-07-2007, 10:57 PM	#91
Fledermaus Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,115	Holy CRAP it's out already??? I've been looking forward to this for months. __________________ We're calling it a freeway. Eight lanes of shimmering cement running from here to Pasadena. Smooth, safe, fast. Traffic jams will be a thing of the past. I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night! Soon there will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food! Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see! My God... It'll be beautiful.

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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,543	Well, we know Karai was old enough to have a daughter who was upwards of 16 years old, and this was in the 1980s in the continuity. So yeah... she'd be real old in 2060. But then, I'm not an expert in modern, life-extending 2060 medicine. Are you? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

11-09-2007, 10:03 AM	#94
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,499	I think Diego's art has made great strides even since Tales #37. The ink and toning job on this comic is well done, and provides a good sense of depth to the panels. The snow effect works very well, like the Michelangelo Christmas special from way back. Last edited by oldmanwinters; 11-09-2007 at 04:53 PM.

11-07-2007, 08:21 PM	#87
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Really good. I typically don't like silent issues since I breeze through them in 30 seconds (I can only stare at the art for so long). This one held my interest, though. The ending seemed kind of weird. I guess the truce got called off at some point.

11-07-2007, 09:49 PM	#89
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Something I noticed... The solicits for the issue say it takes place in 2025 but the issue itself says its 2060. 2025 seemed to make more sense, given that Karai is alive and all, but 2060 is what it says and what it says is, well, what it says. Maybe they figured 2025 wasn't far enough into the future so they kicked it up a notch.

11-08-2007, 08:29 AM	#93
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Foot action, Raph, eyepatchs, kickin' butt, all-out violent fights, Karai... Ah! Reminds me of the good ol' days of Volumes 1 and 3! I give it two green thumbs-up!

11-09-2007, 03:39 PM	#95
Time Mistress Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennshellvania, or the 79th level of Null-Time Posts: 710	Good issue Diego! Very moody and great to see Raph cut loose for once. And the inclusion of robot foot soldiers harkening back to the OT was a nice touch. __________________ AKA the Edwardian Adventuress and Fairlady_Z "You just made your last mistake, Bugeyes -- 'cuz nobody beats up my best buddy and gets away with it -- Nobody! Got that?!" Raphael about Michaelangelo, TMNT Volume 1

11-09-2007, 09:37 PM	#97
diegojourdan Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: SCL Posts: 53	Thank y'all for the nice comments! I'm very proud everybody seems to like the issue so far

11-10-2007, 03:56 AM	#98
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Diego: Awesome artwork! And WOOT WOOT!! Karai!! I did NOT expect to see Karai!! So by 2060 Karai has a great-granddaughter. Calculating everything together and she'd have a kid of her own soon. Unless she had one in the missing 16 years. blinks Or the daughter of hers who died in CAW wasn't her only child.... the mind boggles. Karai didn't age well..oh dear... Several things I liked: 1: Raph's face upon smelling Motoko's diaper...ooh.. stiiinky! 2: Raph getting those nice er street ladies to change the diaper and get milk. 3: Raph actually getting a posse! 4: Karai! Did ya'll get the idea for the name Motoko from anime?? There's several Anime that have a character named Motoko. Like Love Hina and Ghost In the Shell. I have a couple questions tho. Why was Motoko in the sewer anyways?? Did Karai know Raph was in Tokyo? I just looked up what the name Motoko means (I always do when I come across unusual names): Motoko: Child of the Capital The Japanese name Motoko may be written with the characters for "metropolis; capital" (moto) and "child" (ko). Other possibilities include "tree trunk" or "elementary; principle" for 'moto' and "child" (ko). __________________