Dinosaur King - Worst Pokemon Rip-off ever

*Wildcat* · 09-11-2007, 07:40 PM

I figured this was the best place too bring up this topic,since the cartoon airs right after TMNT:FF.

For some reason IMDB dosn't have a page for it...but heres this if ya wanna see more: http://www.dinosaurking.com/

First...I cant say enough how sick I am of all these Card/Monster battle type shows...the only one I have true respect for is Pokemon...because it was the original and everyone else just rips it off.

I mean my gosh....theres Yu-gi-oh,Digimon,Chaotic and now Dinosaur King....and Im probly missing one.

Perhaps some of you saw it,like I said it comes out right after TMNT....it premired this weekend.

When I saw "Dinosaur King" on my on-screen TV guide...I thought...hmmm...sounds kinda good and Iv always liked Dinosaurs so I'll watch it.

Seriously....I went into it thinking it was some type of cartoon with talking Dinosaur characters or people who were trapped in some dinosaur world....boy was I wrong.

I dont need to explain the bases for the show,since we all know how Pokemon and such works....but look at the big ways it rips-off Pokemon....I mean besides Dinos theres not much diffrent.

1.The main character sounds very much like Ash...Im sure its the same voice actor..but again IMDB didnt have a page so I couldnt check.

2.He has 2 friends(a guy and girl) and one small Dinosaur freind that follows them....sound familar?...lets see Ash has Brock and Misty(though thats changed kinda) and Pikachu follows them around.

3.Theres 3 main villians...a guy,a woman and a shorter goofy guy...again,sound familar?....Team Rocket and Meowth

Besides that...the dinosaurs are supposed to be some kinda 3D-ish CGI..but they just look like crappy card-board in stop-motion animation.

As you can see in the link,its from SEGA...up til now,I never knew Sega made a card-battle game....and why did 4kids greenlight the show when Chaotic is the same idea?

*Roseangelo* · 09-11-2007, 07:44 PM

As much as I didn't think Dinosaur King should be compared to Pokemon when I first read the show description, after having seeing the first episode I totally agree. It was horrible. And it didn't help that the main character IS Ash Ketchum in voice. And I'm pretty sure the old voices of Jesse and James were the two "bad guys" who are obviously going to follow the kids around in every episode. It's like they're trying to make it as much like Pokemon as possible, even beyond the original concept.

The Terror of Death · 09-11-2007, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

First...I cant say enough how sick I am of all these Card/Monster battle type shows...the only one I have true respect for is Pokemon...because it was the original and everyone else just rips it off.

I mean my gosh....theres Yu-gi-oh,Digimon,

I stopped reading right there because you obviously dont know what your talking about.

*Wildcat* · 09-11-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Terror of Death

I stopped reading right there because you obviously dont know what your talking about.

Whats that supposed too mean?...Yu-gi-Oh and Digimon(while they have their certain aspects of originality) are the same basic idea as Pokemon.

Peanut · 09-11-2007, 11:36 PM

Don't dis Digimon. Not only is the entire "which came first" debate about Pokemon and Digimon still undecided, but Digimon is completely different in every way from Pokemon. There's absolutely no collecting aspect to it at all and the anime was actually watchable.

*Wildcat* · 09-11-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Don't dis Digimon. Not only is the entire "which came first" debate about Pokemon and Digimon still undecided, but Digimon is completely different in every way from Pokemon. There's absolutely no collecting aspect to it at all and the anime was actually watchable.

Oh..well I dont really have anything against Digimon...I mean its certainly better than this "Dinosaur King".

I just meant there were too many card/monster battle type cartoons.

And even if Digimon doesnt have the "Collecting" aspect....you have too admit...Pokemon and Digimon are the same in thier basic idea....

Many diffrent mosters/characters fight others for thier owners/trainers....regaurdless of which series came first.

*Raph's Girl* · 09-12-2007, 12:10 AM

Yea.. Dinosaur King is essentially a Pokemon rip off. It's got the original cast. Team Alpha is Team Rocket with a T Rex. The good guys are a dad who's a Paleontologist (Just call him Prof. Oak and get it done with

), his son (Ash), the friends (Misty and Brock) and a baby Triceratops named Chomp (if they had named it Chomper would they had to pay the folks of Land Before Time for the use of the name?) who is adorably cute (hugs all her Triceratops plushies) yet has Pikachu's colouring.

Im kinda willing to give this series a shot cuz well I like Dinosaurs and I wanna see what other dinos they'll get (perhaps a Parasauralophus? ).

Unfortunatly as of the 22nd it's on at the same time as The Batman....and well sorry dinos but Clancy Brown's Lex Luthor always comes first in my book

Peanut · 09-12-2007, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

And even if Digimon doesnt have the "Collecting" aspect....you have too admit...Pokemon and Digimon are the same in thier basic idea....

Many diffrent mosters/characters fight others for thier owners/trainers....regaurdless of which series came first.

In a way, but Digimon was more about those monsters fighting to save their partners/friends rather than just battling to win for their owner/trainer. They alsonever fought other "trainers", at least not until season 3, but even in that season it was rare.

But yeah. I totally get what you're saying, man.

*Spike Spiegel* · 09-12-2007, 06:52 AM

The two minutes of this show that I saw last weekend were abysmal...now that I've seen this thread, I'm never watching it again.

*Storm Wolf* · 09-12-2007, 08:08 AM

I never much cared for Pokemon the show myself, and after Gold and Silver and I haven't played the games either. Simply because they keep adding Pokemon on top of Pokemon. It was hard enough in the original trying to train up a perfect team to beat the game...let alone having...what...is 670 to choose from by now?

As for the card/battle games...I've viewed A few and don't like them...every episode seems the same to me...I mean battles consist of the same desperation every time and their is always a "miraculous" comeback.

As for Digimon...I loved the show but after I think it was season 2 I lost interest. When I eventually picked it back up...the people were turning INTO the digimon...so that ruined it completely for me.

*ZariusTwo* · 09-12-2007, 09:37 AM

Please watch Digimon Tamers. You will not regret that you watched a "pocket monster" show that actually doesnt insult an audience.

*Drtooth* · 09-12-2007, 11:28 AM

I will say they all suck. And the only good thing about Pokemon were the villains, and even that got old after 3 minutes. Yes, we could get into the Poke/Digi debate, but I will say this. Saban/Fox ONLY brought Digimon over to the US to cash in of Pokemon's US success. It may not be a ripoff of Poke, persay, but they intended to use the show to rip it off. Sort of like when they made Action Man a ripoff of Max Steel. Action Man came out in the 60's, but by borrowing different plot elements and such, they made it a knockoff.

I'm talking in a business sense, mind you. Not talking about the show's quality.

Secondly, is it just me, or does the CGI look like it came straight out of 1989? seriously. I mean, look at the show Kirby. When they merged 2-D anime style with CGI they did a good job.... even though the beginning of the series, it did look jerky.

But slowing the CGI down so it matches the slowed down style of anime? it's just....ugh...

Thirdly... I've said it before, I'll say it again.... Mushiking. Look it up. That looks like the perfect candidate for 4Kids to bring over here. I bet they can even get past the bug collection hobby that's more prevalent in Japan. Why on Earth are they trying to make money by making the same mistakes? Most people hate them for ruining One Piece with a TV Y7 dub on American TV (with some of the most rediculous censorship crap around, though not as bad as Mikey not having Nunchucks). I have a problem with them because whoever runs the company does NOT know beans about business.

And Fourthly... if I want to watch a fighting anime, I'll watch one where the characters fight EACH OTHER. No hiding behind cards. No cockfights with bizzare looking animals. Hand to hand combat. I did love Shaman King, though. But it really had substance. But seriously, I want to see 2 combatants fight each other, even if they need Kameha Meah waves to do it.

*BubblyShell22* · 09-12-2007, 01:17 PM

When I saw the previews for Dinosaur King, I knew it was going to be a bad show, so I didn't watch it. I think it's just dumb. Does anyone remember Dinosaucers? At first, I thought Dinosaur King was gonna be like that, but I found out that it wasn't by the previews. I may watch one show just to see if I like it, but I doubt I will.

*Drtooth* · 09-12-2007, 03:06 PM

Dinosaurs don't need this show dragging them down... they already have this dumbass dragging the good name of "Dinosaur" through the mud...

Peanut · 09-12-2007, 03:11 PM

I never got the Barney hate. It's a show for little f*cking kids. It's not even on at a time where you should be home if you're 5 or older. People are so lame.

*DrSpengler* · 09-12-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

As much as I didn't think Dinosaur King should be compared to Pokemon when I first read the show description, after having seeing the first episode I totally agree. It was horrible. And it didn't help that the main character IS Ash Ketchum in voice. And I'm pretty sure the old voices of Jesse and James were the two "bad guys" who are obviously going to follow the kids around in every episode. It's like they're trying to make it as much like Pokemon as possible, even beyond the original concept.

Maybe the Pokemon cast are just getting their revenge for being fired last season and replaced by talentless scabs?

The Terror of Death · 09-12-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Maybe the Pokemon cast are just getting their revenge for being fired last season and replaced by talentless scabs?

Hey! Those guys are doing a pretty good job.

*Roseangelo* · 09-12-2007, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Maybe the Pokemon cast are just getting their revenge for being fired last season and replaced by talentless scabs?

Well, they weren't fired. Nintendo just took the dubbing duties away from 4Kids, whom the voice actors all work for.

*Wildcat* · 09-12-2007, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

Dinosaurs don't need this show dragging them down... they already have this dumbass dragging the good name of "Dinosaur" through the mud...

lol...well I used to like watching Barney back when I was a little kid....but I dont watch it anymore.

One of the points I wanted too make...errr the question I wanted too pose was....why did so many companies feel the need to jump on the "Card/monster battle" band-wagon???....its rediculous...

Out of every genre of cartoons,it seems this is most that everyone wants too rip-off.....I mean you dont see a bunch Power Rangers rip-offs and they have been around for years.And ya dont see a bunch of TMNT rip-offs using frogs or something else instead of turtles....or Transformers rip-offs...but that would be kinda hard too make a knock-off out of.

Also...why in the world did Sega need too get into this?....they are doing more good in the video game industry(even though they dropped out of the hardware market)

*DrSpengler* · 09-12-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Well, they weren't fired. Nintendo just took the dubbing duties away from 4Kids, whom the voice actors all work for.

Was that it? I had heard it was pay issues, that the 4Kids cast was too expensive so they figured they could save a few bucks by replacing them with inexperienced sound-a-likes.

09-11-2007, 07:40 PM	#1
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	Dinosaur King - Worst Pokemon Rip-off ever I figured this was the best place too bring up this topic,since the cartoon airs right after TMNT:FF. For some reason IMDB dosn't have a page for it...but heres this if ya wanna see more: http://www.dinosaurking.com/ First...I cant say enough how sick I am of all these Card/Monster battle type shows...the only one I have true respect for is Pokemon...because it was the original and everyone else just rips it off. I mean my gosh....theres Yu-gi-oh,Digimon,Chaotic and now Dinosaur King....and Im probly missing one. Perhaps some of you saw it,like I said it comes out right after TMNT....it premired this weekend. When I saw "Dinosaur King" on my on-screen TV guide...I thought...hmmm...sounds kinda good and Iv always liked Dinosaurs so I'll watch it. Seriously....I went into it thinking it was some type of cartoon with talking Dinosaur characters or people who were trapped in some dinosaur world....boy was I wrong. I dont need to explain the bases for the show,since we all know how Pokemon and such works....but look at the big ways it rips-off Pokemon....I mean besides Dinos theres not much diffrent. 1.The main character sounds very much like Ash...Im sure its the same voice actor..but again IMDB didnt have a page so I couldnt check. 2.He has 2 friends(a guy and girl) and one small Dinosaur freind that follows them....sound familar?...lets see Ash has Brock and Misty(though thats changed kinda) and Pikachu follows them around. 3.Theres 3 main villians...a guy,a woman and a shorter goofy guy...again,sound familar?....Team Rocket and Meowth Besides that...the dinosaurs are supposed to be some kinda 3D-ish CGI..but they just look like crappy card-board in stop-motion animation. As you can see in the link,its from SEGA...up til now,I never knew Sega made a card-battle game....and why did 4kids greenlight the show when Chaotic is the same idea? __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything. Last edited by Wildcat; 09-11-2007 at 08:04 PM.

09-11-2007, 07:44 PM	#2
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,120	As much as I didn't think Dinosaur King should be compared to Pokemon when I first read the show description, after having seeing the first episode I totally agree. It was horrible. And it didn't help that the main character IS Ash Ketchum in voice. And I'm pretty sure the old voices of Jesse and James were the two "bad guys" who are obviously going to follow the kids around in every episode. It's like they're trying to make it as much like Pokemon as possible, even beyond the original concept. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

09-12-2007, 12:10 AM	#7
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Yea.. Dinosaur King is essentially a Pokemon rip off. It's got the original cast. Team Alpha is Team Rocket with a T Rex. The good guys are a dad who's a Paleontologist (Just call him Prof. Oak and get it done with ), his son (Ash), the friends (Misty and Brock) and a baby Triceratops named Chomp (if they had named it Chomper would they had to pay the folks of Land Before Time for the use of the name?) who is adorably cute (hugs all her Triceratops plushies) yet has Pikachu's colouring. Im kinda willing to give this series a shot cuz well I like Dinosaurs and I wanna see what other dinos they'll get (perhaps a Parasauralophus? ). Unfortunatly as of the 22nd it's on at the same time as The Batman....and well sorry dinos but Clancy Brown's Lex Luthor always comes first in my book __________________

09-12-2007, 09:37 AM	#11
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	Please watch Digimon Tamers. You will not regret that you watched a "pocket monster" show that actually doesnt insult an audience. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

09-12-2007, 11:28 AM	#12
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	I will say they all suck. And the only good thing about Pokemon were the villains, and even that got old after 3 minutes. Yes, we could get into the Poke/Digi debate, but I will say this. Saban/Fox ONLY brought Digimon over to the US to cash in of Pokemon's US success. It may not be a ripoff of Poke, persay, but they intended to use the show to rip it off. Sort of like when they made Action Man a ripoff of Max Steel. Action Man came out in the 60's, but by borrowing different plot elements and such, they made it a knockoff. I'm talking in a business sense, mind you. Not talking about the show's quality. Secondly, is it just me, or does the CGI look like it came straight out of 1989? seriously. I mean, look at the show Kirby. When they merged 2-D anime style with CGI they did a good job.... even though the beginning of the series, it did look jerky. But slowing the CGI down so it matches the slowed down style of anime? it's just....ugh... Thirdly... I've said it before, I'll say it again.... Mushiking. Look it up. That looks like the perfect candidate for 4Kids to bring over here. I bet they can even get past the bug collection hobby that's more prevalent in Japan. Why on Earth are they trying to make money by making the same mistakes? Most people hate them for ruining One Piece with a TV Y7 dub on American TV (with some of the most rediculous censorship crap around, though not as bad as Mikey not having Nunchucks). I have a problem with them because whoever runs the company does NOT know beans about business. And Fourthly... if I want to watch a fighting anime, I'll watch one where the characters fight EACH OTHER. No hiding behind cards. No cockfights with bizzare looking animals. Hand to hand combat. I did love Shaman King, though. But it really had substance. But seriously, I want to see 2 combatants fight each other, even if they need Kameha Meah waves to do it. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

09-11-2007, 11:36 PM	#5
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Don't dis Digimon. Not only is the entire "which came first" debate about Pokemon and Digimon still undecided, but Digimon is completely different in every way from Pokemon. There's absolutely no collecting aspect to it at all and the anime was actually watchable.

09-12-2007, 01:17 PM	#13
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	When I saw the previews for Dinosaur King, I knew it was going to be a bad show, so I didn't watch it. I think it's just dumb. Does anyone remember Dinosaucers? At first, I thought Dinosaur King was gonna be like that, but I found out that it wasn't by the previews. I may watch one show just to see if I like it, but I doubt I will.

09-12-2007, 03:06 PM	#14
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Dinosaurs don't need this show dragging them down... they already have this dumbass dragging the good name of "Dinosaur" through the mud... __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

09-12-2007, 03:11 PM	#15
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I never got the Barney hate. It's a show for little f*cking kids. It's not even on at a time where you should be home if you're 5 or older. People are so lame.