Illegal Music Download Arrest

Jon · 10-05-2007, 06:02 AM

A woman was arrested for illegal music downloading (and apparently also shared the downloaded music with others, too). She has been ordered to pay $9,000 for *each* of the illegal downloads (having done 24 in all)!

*gobo* · 10-05-2007, 09:28 AM

Ouch... Sucks to be her.

PAAATE · 10-05-2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jon

A woman was arrested for illegal music downloading (and apparently also shared the downloaded music with others, too). She has been ordered to pay $9,000 for *each* of the illegal downloads (having done 24 in all)!

Stop it, you're scaring me o.o

I mean 24... I have... Umm... A little more? Ehehe...

Btw, does anyone know if it's just swedish police that can do anything about me downloading or can someone foreign get involved too?

Just wondering, cos Swedish police doesn't really care if you download and most people who get caught gets acquinted in court.

*Raph's Girl* · 10-05-2007, 06:15 PM

What country was this in? Ya know it would be helpful when posting news to post the URL where ya got the news from.

Found it. She was apperantly getting the songs off of Kazaa. Yeesh. I didn't even know that P2P still existed.... The RIAA has been after Kazaa for years! Plus she was downloading the music while on campus (the RIAA has been after campuses for a while).

http://cbs3.com/local/local_story_278181313.html

Jon · 10-05-2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

What country was this in? Ya know it would be helpful when posting news to post the URL where ya got the news from.

Well, I'm in the US. But I heard it on a local TV news report (so didn't have a link).

**GK Punk** · 10-05-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

I didn't even know that P2P still existed....

BitTorrent, mIRC, eMule, etc

*Sewer Bull* · 10-06-2007, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Michi heavenly6

BitTorrent, mIRC, eMule, etc

I have a feeling that by "that P2P" Raph's Girl meant "that particular P2P software that is Kazaa", not the whole P2P network.

I didn't know Kazaa still existed as well, I thought it was already dead for a long time.

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Originally Posted by ifyoureadthispress:alt-F4

Btw, does anyone know if it's just swedish police that can do anything about me downloading or can someone foreign get involved too?

Just wondering, cos Swedish police doesn't really care if you download and most people who get caught gets acquinted in court.

Blame the loophole that more or less says "you can leech but you cannot share".

*Spitfire* · 10-06-2007, 12:46 AM

Wow, talk about making an example out of someone. Glad I only ever DL crap that isn't out yet, the bands I listen to actually put their own CDs on the file sharing networks before releasing them. I wasn't sure if it was really them or someone who works for them until the new Arch Enemy CD had water marks.

You know really if people would just buy the damn music like I do this wouldn't be a problem. I mean I go out of my way to get the best version of a CD I can if I like it. I just like to hear it before it's out or before I buy it so I know if I like it.

**GK Punk** · 10-06-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

I have a feeling that by "that P2P" Raph's Girl meant "that particular P2P software that is Kazaa", not the whole P2P network.

That's the funny thing about English. It's hard to tell with statements like that. I read it as that p2p as in P2P in general, but now that you've pointed out there was another way to take it, You are probably right.

*Rooish* · 10-06-2007, 01:28 AM

that's so unfair. why her? why couldn't it have been anyone? that amount of money ruins lives.and downloading one song does not ruin the songwriters' life.

*Katie* · 10-06-2007, 07:14 AM

You're right...that kind of money could ruin a life.......believe me, I know what it is like to realize you will never have your dream because of money. But this is more to make her an example and send a message. sure, downloading one song would not hurt the writer / producer / artist, etc. But imagine HUNDREDS or THOUSANDS or MILLIONS of people doing that....

If you can download stuff for free, why would you buy it? And It's not like just making music and giving it away will pay their bills. We'd have an overrun of waiters in this town (Nashville) if downloading music all the time was free!

I'm not picking sides. Personally, I think that fine is a bit harsh. But she is being made an example. It is a bit like a tort against McDonalds for millions of dollars becaue their coffee is to hot or something.

*gobo* · 10-06-2007, 07:38 AM

Don't get me started about the coffee lawsuit and simultaneous, mysterious disappearance of the godsend known as the Hot Apple Pie... I miss it so much.

*Spitfire* · 10-06-2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Katie

If you can download stuff for free, why would you buy it?

Because you have respect for the artist who created it.

Oh wait no one has that anymore; Seriously if you DL crap and never buy it your not a fan, your a leech.

*Mecha Cow* · 10-06-2007, 03:53 PM

That's not entirely true; there's a lot of stuff that you can't come by, at least not anymore.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 10-06-2007, 04:24 PM

That much is true. So because it is no longer available, people should let it be forgotten and leave it at that?

I download songs illegally to test drive them. If I like an album, I'll buy it. If it turns out to blow, then I saved myself $20. If it is no longer available, or costs something like $40+ used, I download it.

*Ecto Jedi* · 10-06-2007, 04:26 PM

http://www.news.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html

Greatest. Country. Ever.

PAAATE · 10-06-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi

http://www.news.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html

Greatest. Country. Ever.

And that's how it should be.

Music (and movies and so on) should be available for everyone, not just the ones that can afford it.

I mean, I could afford to buy music, that's why I occasionaly buy a CD but as a student I don't really have the money to buy everything I want (obviously) so is there a way to save money and still get what I want? Yes. Then I use it.

I just think some people should develop another way to pay for it and pay LESS for it. Like.. Swedish Vänsterpartiet (a political party on the left side) have suggested some sort of broadband-tax, which, if it's reasonably high/low, sounds fair to me.

*Ecto Jedi* · 10-06-2007, 04:50 PM

More reason to get angry at all this music download lawsuit bullsh*t...

Study: P2P effect on legal music sales "not statistically distinguishable from zero"

*Spitfire* · 10-06-2007, 05:34 PM

Well yeah bands make all their money off of merch and concert ticket sales. I know DLing doesn't affect the sales of the CDs themselves*Which bands make nothing on for the most part compared to other stuff* I'm a collector and a stern believer of you like it, you buy it.

Stuff may be rare or whatever but there's always a way to get it for a good price. I once waited an entire year for a CD I wanted to be sent to me from a website. I thought because the movies "Tiger On The Beat" and "The Killer" were out of print I'd never get them for cheap, found them on Ebay for 10 bucks each. Hell I even found "Casshern" for a good price, a copy that works with US DVD players.

I can understand people not being able to afford the music that's fine by me, but I do believe that if you like something eventually you should go out and buy it. I'm sure most of you make a point to buy the turtles DVDs and not just download them. Because you want more, and you know that buying those DVDs up gives you a better chance to have more. Understand?

愛 · 10-06-2007, 06:04 PM

Music is pretty cheap here compared to somewhere like Japan. $30 for an album? It better come with a D S'in by the artist/group! But then there's Korea, where albums cost $8. So you know, depends where you're from. Long story short, music isn't so expensive, but it can become so when you have such a wide range of interests.

Me, the only groups I ever support are Dir en grey and Morning Musume. I buy Morning Musume albums, and Dir en grey everything.

10-05-2007, 06:02 AM	#1
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	Illegal Music Download Arrest A woman was arrested for illegal music downloading (and apparently also shared the downloaded music with others, too). She has been ordered to pay $9,000 for each of the illegal downloads (having done 24 in all)!

10-05-2007, 09:28 AM	#2
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Ouch... Sucks to be her. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-05-2007, 06:15 PM	#4
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	What country was this in? Ya know it would be helpful when posting news to post the URL where ya got the news from. Found it. She was apperantly getting the songs off of Kazaa. Yeesh. I didn't even know that P2P still existed.... The RIAA has been after Kazaa for years! Plus she was downloading the music while on campus (the RIAA has been after campuses for a while). http://cbs3.com/local/local_story_278181313.html __________________

10-06-2007, 12:46 AM	#8
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Wow, talk about making an example out of someone. Glad I only ever DL crap that isn't out yet, the bands I listen to actually put their own CDs on the file sharing networks before releasing them. I wasn't sure if it was really them or someone who works for them until the new Arch Enemy CD had water marks. You know really if people would just buy the damn music like I do this wouldn't be a problem. I mean I go out of my way to get the best version of a CD I can if I like it. I just like to hear it before it's out or before I buy it so I know if I like it. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

10-06-2007, 07:14 AM	#11
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	You're right...that kind of money could ruin a life.......believe me, I know what it is like to realize you will never have your dream because of money. But this is more to make her an example and send a message. sure, downloading one song would not hurt the writer / producer / artist, etc. But imagine HUNDREDS or THOUSANDS or MILLIONS of people doing that.... If you can download stuff for free, why would you buy it? And It's not like just making music and giving it away will pay their bills. We'd have an overrun of waiters in this town (Nashville) if downloading music all the time was free! I'm not picking sides. Personally, I think that fine is a bit harsh. But she is being made an example. It is a bit like a tort against McDonalds for millions of dollars becaue their coffee is to hot or something. __________________ THE WORLD IS JUST AWESOME

10-06-2007, 01:28 AM	#10
Rooish Devil's Advocate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 2,130	that's so unfair. why her? why couldn't it have been anyone? that amount of money ruins lives.and downloading one song does not ruin the songwriters' life.

10-06-2007, 07:38 AM	#12
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Don't get me started about the coffee lawsuit and simultaneous, mysterious disappearance of the godsend known as the Hot Apple Pie... I miss it so much. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-06-2007, 03:53 PM	#14
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	That's not entirely true; there's a lot of stuff that you can't come by, at least not anymore. __________________

10-06-2007, 04:24 PM	#15
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	That much is true. So because it is no longer available, people should let it be forgotten and leave it at that? I download songs illegally to test drive them. If I like an album, I'll buy it. If it turns out to blow, then I saved myself $20. If it is no longer available, or costs something like $40+ used, I download it. __________________

10-06-2007, 04:26 PM	#16
Ecto Jedi Denki Wo Kitte Kudasai Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,439	http://www.news.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html Greatest. Country. Ever.

10-06-2007, 04:50 PM	#18
Ecto Jedi Denki Wo Kitte Kudasai Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 2,439	More reason to get angry at all this music download lawsuit bullsh*t... Study: P2P effect on legal music sales "not statistically distinguishable from zero"

10-06-2007, 05:34 PM	#19
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Well yeah bands make all their money off of merch and concert ticket sales. I know DLing doesn't affect the sales of the CDs themselvesWhich bands make nothing on for the most part compared to other stuff I'm a collector and a stern believer of you like it, you buy it. Stuff may be rare or whatever but there's always a way to get it for a good price. I once waited an entire year for a CD I wanted to be sent to me from a website. I thought because the movies "Tiger On The Beat" and "The Killer" were out of print I'd never get them for cheap, found them on Ebay for 10 bucks each. Hell I even found "Casshern" for a good price, a copy that works with US DVD players. I can understand people not being able to afford the music that's fine by me, but I do believe that if you like something eventually you should go out and buy it. I'm sure most of you make a point to buy the turtles DVDs and not just download them. Because you want more, and you know that buying those DVDs up gives you a better chance to have more. Understand? __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

10-06-2007, 06:04 PM	#20
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Music is pretty cheap here compared to somewhere like Japan. $30 for an album? It better come with a D S'in by the artist/group! But then there's Korea, where albums cost $8. So you know, depends where you're from. Long story short, music isn't so expensive, but it can become so when you have such a wide range of interests. Me, the only groups I ever support are Dir en grey and Morning Musume. I buy Morning Musume albums, and Dir en grey everything.