HD Format Wars = Over!

[GK Punk]

And it really does make all the difference in the world. It's like watching a movie on VHS, then watching the DVD of it. Remember the first time you saw a DVD? And you were blown away by how clear it looked? This is like that, but to a larger extent. (due to the higher level of details you can see in movies. )

[Spitfire]

The second I heard they were making duel players I could careless about the format war.

[Krang]

It's too bad that the news about Paramount didn't turn out to be true, because it would be nice to finally see an end to these format wars. Personally, I haven't begun buying either of the two HD formats since I don't have an HDTV yet, but I'm sure I'll end up buying one sooner or later.

Also, let's please tone down the arguing in this thread. I know that it's impossible to expect everyone to agree, and a little debating is fine, but there's no need for anyone to resort to personal insults.

[Cure]

You can't look down on people for wanting (and being able to afford) nice things. Isn't the whole point to live life to the fullest? If people can afford to do and buy great things, don't hate, congratulate. If you're only motivation is to barely get through the day and try to put people that like these things through guilt trips, where's the fun in that? Just go away and worry about your next meal or whatever.

And again, this sh*t ain't expensive anyway.

[The Shelf]

Originally Posted by TheCure

And again, this sh*t ain't expensive anyway.

The way I see it, anything that costs twice the norm or more for such a small difference in quality is expensive.

The difference between VHS and DVD, is like night and day. The difference between DVD and HD/BluRay is like a cloudy day and a clear day. If you can afford it, then great! More power to you. I won't put you down; in fact, I have friends who are into the whole HD/BluRay thing. But I can think of countless things that money could be better spent on that I would get much more enjoyment/use out of.

HD and/or BluRay aren't going to become mainstream until stores stop carrying regular TVs, and that won't happen until large HD TVs drop drastically in price. Plain ole' DVDs will be around for many years still to come.

Originally Posted by TheCure

Isn't the whole point to live life to the fullest?

I'm not attacking you or anything, but honestly, what's that got to do with owning an HD setup?

[Jon]

[QUOTE=The Shelf;582563]HD and/or BluRay aren't going to become mainstream until stores stop carrying regular TVs, and that won't happen until large HD TVs drop drastically in price. Plain ole' DVDs will be around for many years still to come.

The TV part of this is happening sooner than you have it thought. As, in about a year, analog sets are going to be 'forced into retirement'.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by The Shelf

I'm not attacking you or anything, but honestly, what's that got to do with owning an HD setup?

Because that's how you enjoy the movie to the fullest? I thought that was clear.

And before anyone questions it, yes, I enjoy other things as well, like traveling and strip joints.

[Leonardo Mystic]

Originally Posted by TheCure

You can't look down on people for wanting (and being able to afford) nice things. Isn't the whole point to live life to the fullest? If people can afford to do and buy great things, don't hate, congratulate. If you're only motivation is to barely get through the day and try to put people that like these things through guilt trips, where's the fun in that? Just go away and worry about your next meal or whatever.

And again, this sh*t ain't expensive anyway.

Yeah. $2,000 ain't expensive for a TV. Geez, I could put that as a down payment on a new used car.

I don't look down to those who can afford this stuff. In fact, more power to them, but in turn, don't you look down on those who can't and call them jealous when they say "what's the big deal?" Because to these people they struggle to earn the nice stuff they can get, but they don't completely blow their paychecks for the next six months to have it either because they do need to live too. Even on a good paying income, they'd still struggle to buy something that expensive for the "Oooh, I want the latest and greatest no matter if it costs me my pension" consumer.

People like that wait and they budget. Prices come down, and eventually, it's affordable to them. However, right now it's ridiculous to pay that much for a HD setup. You can live life to the fullest in the living room with your TV, and I could go somewhere in a nice new used car to actually live life.

[Spitfire]

I made $9.80 an hour and I could afford a 1000 dollar TV and a great sound system to match for 100 so really it's not that expensive. Actually I also got an upconvert DVD player*another 100 bucks* and an HDMI cable for it*Another 100*. I know most people make more then I did. I made about 600 every two weeks before taxes*So about 500 or so* if you save just 200 a check in 2 months you can afford a good HDTV. Then if you save up for another month just 200 you can get surround sound and a good player as well. Learning to budget is key.

$2,000 is for a 42 inch or larger TV, most people don't have room for that. Most people have room for a 32 inch and those are around a grand or less depending on sales.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by Leonardo Mystic

Yeah. $2,000 ain't expensive for a TV. Geez, I could put that as a down payment on a new used car.

I don't look down to those who can afford this stuff. In fact, more power to them, but in turn, don't you look down on those who can't and call them jealous when they say "what's the big deal?" Because to these people they struggle to earn the nice stuff they can get, but they don't completely blow their paychecks for the next six months to have it either because they do need to live too. Even on a good paying income, they'd still struggle to buy something that expensive for the "Oooh, I want the latest and greatest no matter if it costs me my pension" consumer.

People like that wait and they budget. Prices come down, and eventually, it's affordable to them. However, right now it's ridiculous to pay that much for a HD setup. You can live life to the fullest in the living room with your TV, and I could go somewhere in a nice new used car to actually live life.

Now you're just making it obvious you're not completely comprehending other's posts. It's been said MULTIPLE times most HDTV's aren't $2000 anymore and I also said that I enjoy going out as well, so that used car bit is invalid. Do you just skim over people's posts and reply to the parts you get offended with?

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by The Shelf

The way I see it, anything that costs twice the norm or more for such a small difference in quality is expensive.

The difference between VHS and DVD, is like night and day. The difference between DVD and HD/BluRay is like a cloudy day and a clear day.

Uh...no? This makes it perfectly clear you don't have a clue. What you need to do right now is leave this thread, because nothing you say in here matters anymore.

Originally Posted by The Shelf

Plain ole' DVDs will be around for many years still to come.

No one is disputing that. You all act like those of us with HDTV's are saying that DVD is dead, when that's quite to the contrary.

Originally Posted by Leonardo Mystic

Yeah. $2,000 ain't expensive for a TV.

Where in the f*ck are you getting this? Most places, like Best Buy, have deals where you can get a 47" SONY BRAVIA (A very high-end HDTV), along with a very good surround sound system for $1,500.

People who can't afford/don't want an HD setup ALWAYS over exaggerate the price of this stuff way too much. Whether that's due to ignorance, stupidity, or something totally different, I don't know.

It's just like people with sh*t computer systems who over exaggerate the cost of upgrading.

Originally Posted by Leonardo Mystic

but they don't completely blow their paychecks for the next six months to have it either because they do need to live too.

Once again, GROSS EXAGGERATION! If it would take you half a year to make an extra $2,000, you're working for slave wages, or you work less than part-time.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Originally Posted by The Shelf

The way I see it, anything that costs twice the norm or more for such a small difference in quality is expensive.

The difference between VHS and DVD, is like night and day. The difference between DVD and HD/BluRay is like a cloudy day and a clear day. If you can afford it, then great! More power to you. I won't put you down; in fact, I have friends who are into the whole HD/BluRay thing. But I can think of countless things that money could be better spent on that I would get much more enjoyment/use out of.

HD and/or BluRay aren't going to become mainstream until stores stop carrying regular TVs, and that won't happen until large HD TVs drop drastically in price. Plain ole' DVDs will be around for many years still to come.


I'm not attacking you or anything, but honestly, what's that got to do with owning an HD setup?

I don't need to read anything after the bolded remark. You clearly know nothing about HD. Get a good HD tv and put in a regular dvd, then compare to Blu Ray/HD DVD. It's more than a "small difference".

It's not that much for an HDTV. I bought a nice 42" this summer for like $1,200. That's with my other bills car payment($2,000/year), apartment ($3,000), food, gas, other ****, ect. The only I don't pay for is my cell phone and my college classes. The point is, if it's something you're into it's not that hard to pay for. Quit acting like we're stupid and irresponsible for purchasing one.

[Janus Prospero]

Originally Posted by Peanut

My mom and myself bought my dad an entire setup for Christmas. This included a 52" Sony Bravia...

Oh man, good choice!

I was in a Fry's Electronics the other day and a huge crowd of people were gathered around a 52" Bravia (I think it was the XBR4 series). It was playing Transformers in HD, and it looked so...crisp. It was hard to describe. I know this is cliche as hell, but it was like you were actually there (at least moreso than the other HDTVs.) I had to keep looking at the other screens to make sure that they were actually playing the same thing.

It was actually kind of odd to watch and I don't know if I would be able to get over the complete lack of film grain. Either way, it sure was impressive. The guy standing next to me said the picture was "like a making-of video." It made sense at the time.

[Spitfire]

Unless you can afford an HD disk player there will still be some grain. I couldn't so I got an upconvert and it looks allot better still but there's still some grain.

Sony is nice, Samsung is the best LCD on the market currently, and Pioneer is god as always. All the TVs look good when their calibrated right, which in stores their not 90% of the time.

[Peanut]

If you're watching things with a proper transfer, and a good TV, there shouldn't be any grain at all. What you should get are artifacts and, especially with animated shows, a lot of tearing.

[Spitfire]

I mostly watch cartoons so yeah that explains that. I think toons look great in HD even if their stretched to widescreen*Which I prefer for some odd reason* the color is just expressed so much more.

[GK Punk]

Originally Posted by Leonardo Mystic

Yeah. $2,000 ain't expensive for a TV. Geez, I could put that as a down payment on a new used car.

Except you missed all the posts that said that's not how much a TV costs. Mine wasn't even half that. 350ish bucks for a TV is pretty average last I checked.

[Machias Banshee]

Let's not forget that new federal mandate that is Requiring everyone to get HDTvs in order to get any tv channels in a couple years from now. So basically if you still have an analog TV, youre not going to get anything. What a way to force everyone to buy HD anything...

[GK Punk]

That's not correct. You need a DIGITAL TV Connection. Not an HD TV.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Machi

Let's not forget that new federal mandate that is Requiring everyone to get HDTvs in order to get any tv channels in a couple years from now. So basically if you still have an analog TV, youre not going to get anything. What a way to force everyone to buy HD anything...

I've heard that that's not entirely the case and that TV's equiped for cable and those who already have cable will be fine....then again it's just what I heard, I may stand corrected.