New Star Wars Movie announced

[Peanut]

But that's just stylistically bad...to you...as in it's your opinion. That doesn't actually make the CG low-grade. And comparing it to game cut-scenes is slightly ridiculous. Games like Final Fantasy always have insanely huge budgets for that kind of stuff, so they're obviously going to be amazing, but the majority of games out there now either go with in-game cinematics, or use CG from a couple years back.

And whoever said it's just a "step above" Reboot or Beast Wars needs to a) go back and watch how terrible that animation has aged and b) shut the f*ck up.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Peanut

But that's just stylistically bad...to you...as in it's your opinion.

You don't care much for different opinions do you Peanut? Such Anger *in Yoda voice*
Never said it wasn't my own personal opinion, & yes I don't like how they look in this even though I just got done saying I enjoyed it in 2d animated style.

Originally Posted by Peanut

That doesn't actually make the CG low-grade. And comparing it to game cut-scenes is slightly ridiculous. Games like Final Fantasy always have insanely huge budgets for that kind of stuff, so they're obviously going to be amazing, but the majority of games out there now either go with in-game cinematics, or use CG from a couple years back.

And you're sort of agreeing though or so it seems, I just think still cg isn't really where it needs to be yet.
Either that or it's just not being used to it's fullest extent, I like when they use a 3d sculpted model, take that and then animate with it.
But wouldn't you think that George and his company would have the kind of money to do better quality work?
I've never much cared for the cg stuff in the new movies either, looks to fake.
I come from a group of people though who enjoy the old costumes and prosthetic makeup days.

Originally Posted by Peanut

And whoever said it's just a "step above" Reboot or Beast Wars needs to a) go back and watch how terrible that animation has aged and b) shut the f*ck up

And I'm gonna also take it you're a hardcore Star Wars fan? Oh well at least your passionate about it heh

[Fledermaus]

Hm... so this is going to be released in theaters? Despite the crappy animation that's even worse than TMNT's (at this point) and the late-90's PC game unfinished textures, this movie may still do very well considering that it's Star Wars... Are you sure this is to be released in theaters? The quality level looks more like it belongs on TV -- and if that were the case, then the quality's not too bad.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Fledermaus

and the late-90's PC game unfinished textures

Once again, I'm going to say that people should stop bringing games into this, because it just makes you look like a fool.

Also, people need to take note that that trailer is OVER A YEAR OLD! A year is a pretty long f*cking time.

[GK Punk]

Star Wars > Everyone in this thread

Even me.

Especially me.

[Spitfire]

Figure I'd give the trailer a shot. I was reading rumors about a KOTOR series for awhile, this obviously wasn't it so I'm guessing this was the series they went with.

I see the battle between "Looks like a video game" and "No it doesn't" in this war I'd have to agree it has a cut scene quality to it but the style is very cartoony and unlike any game I've seen. It's the way the characters move, it's very stiff and appears to be missing some frames of animation.

But as it was said this trailer is old so who knows what it could look like now. I personally dislike CG TV series, movies, and effects in general. Like Putrescent said I'm one of those old school make-up effect guys. I'd rather see someone in a latex costume then a CGI monstrosity that will, in most cases, look like crap in a few years. It's very rare CGI holds up for longer then that, yes Lord Of The Ring did I'm aware of that.

Back on topic not being a Star Wars fan myself I could careless, just wanted to comment more or so about the KOTOR series and got side tracked.

[Mecha Cow]

The quality level looks more like it belongs on TV -- and if that were the case, then the quality's not too bad.

Actually it does belong on TV, since it's a pilot for a new series. As such I'm not sure if it's a smart movie to release it theatrically since people will have much higher expectations, but whatever.

I thought the prequel movies were awful, but what I saw of the Clone Wars series was really cool. I'll keep an eye out for this.

[odupianist]

What I don't get is the difference between the Clone War cartoons and this new CGI Clone Wars. Are they going to tell the same stories? Are they going to take a different angle? What?

[The Shelf]

Originally Posted by odupianist

What I don't get is the difference between the Clone War cartoons and this new CGI Clone Wars. Are they going to tell the same stories? Are they going to take a different angle? What?

That's my understanding. I think they are retelling what old Clone Wars cartoons, but they're going to spread it out across a lot more lengthier episodes, so we can expect a ton of extra story that wasn't in the old cartoon (like Anakin's padawan).

[Drtooth]

Off topic, is Georgie Porgie still considering the live action series that takes place between Episode 3 and 4? Or was that even a possibility. Personally, while I would like to see the Clone Wars again, I'd rather the heck just see how Chewie met up with Han. That was the Tantan in the room at the end of 3, for me.

Anyway, I find the fact they're theatrically releasing this the biggest surprise. I just can't wait to see the SW fan boys lining up to see it, reading all the spoilers online, etc. etc. then whining about it online, then going to buy tickets to see it a third and fourth time. I, myself, can sit through this quite happily, considering there were even bits of episode 1 I enjoyed. And that was the worst one, IMO.

Well, if they're pumping out cheap, poorly conceived and poorly made crap just to cut another check, then I can understand the venom. And Lucas is certainly no stranger to greenlighting cheap and awful Star Wars media for the purpose of funding a new wing to his mansion (the Holiday Special, Ewok TV movies and 80's cartoons come to mind). But hey, Eastman and Laird are hardly exempt from that failing, either (Next Mutation).

But this new Clone Wars cartoon doesn't seem to apply to that category. It has some serious production value and several years of pre production behind it. It may turn out to be stupid, who knows, but it hardly reeks of Lucas phoning something in for easy money.

I would say, from what I've seen of Droids, it was pretty enjoyable, not great, but enjoyable. I will say, George is fearcely protective of his baby, and if there is anything to worry over, it's over him worrying over every aspect of the film, making it his way. While you can debate a lot of the Star Wars franchise has suffered under his new found fuddy duddy perfectionism, you cannot say he's cheaping anything in here. He even violently regrets the holiday special. I'm surprised he hasn't shut down any of the bootlegg sites where you can buy it.

the short version, the only way this project will be bad would be due to him working too hard on it, not tossing something for a check. Otherwise, instead of the prequals, we would have had remakes of the first 3 movies, only this time, C3-PO is a wisecracking pimp bot from da hood. shudder...

[The Shelf]

Originally Posted by Drtooth

Off topic, is Georgie Porgie still considering the live action series that takes place between Episode 3 and 4? Or was that even a possibility. Personally, while I would like to see the Clone Wars again, I'd rather the heck just see how Chewie met up with Han. That was the Tantan in the room at the end of 3, for me.

It's scheduled for Fall '09. Not sure how much they'll show of Han and Chewie, though, if at all. The only thing I know for sure is that Boba Fett is supposed to be in it.

[Mr. Snackpants]

This should be sweet. I love the idea of a movie setting up a tv show. More Star Wars, should be fun.

ps. theres been some hardcore pwnage going on in here.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

This coming from a fan of the Ninja Turtles franchise?

"Meh...milking for those profits. TMNT 1, 2, 3 weren't that great, now an animated movie and a new cartoon series? Doesn't Laird have enough money?"

I mean, c'mon. Star Wars fans want more cartoons. There haven't been very many. So Lucas makes money off them? So what? Laird makes money off "all this animation" we've been getting for the past six years. Would you say that the recent TMNT animated movie and the upcoming new season are nothing more than the result of a greedy Laird milking the franchise for profits?

If you're gonna hate the Clone Wars series, hate it for the animation or the characters or the stories or something reasonable. But to hate it because Lucas is providing new content for fans and gets a paycheck for it? Sheesh.

Good point, but we all have to admit that Star Wars never went away, while TMNT had a good 10+ years in hiatus. With SW, you got games, comics, novels, toys, re-released DVDs, etc. to get our fix in between movies. With TMNT, we got a failed comic series from Image until the cartoon returned in '03.

I think this is definitely another cash-cow for Lucas. Why redo Clone Wars with CG when he could have blown our minds with it the first time? It's a great thing for the Star Wars universe and its fans, but honestly, it could have been done instead of the cartoon from the get-go. It's another one of his, "Oh, I forgot a little something. Let's put it in here like this and release it as a new format for the public." He did it with the original trilogy and he's doing it with Clone Wars. Let's hope he doesn't decide to redo Episodes I-III sometime down the line.

[Peanut]

I pretty much hate everyone in this thread for raising my Star Wars fanboy ire so much. I also thank you, because it's been a long damn time since that happened.

[GK Punk]

That's why I haven't said much, Peanut. It wouldn't come out nice.

[The Shelf]

Why discriminate, Peanut? Fanboys in general are something to get angry about. Why limit yourself to Star Wars fanboys? You just gotta learn to ignore them all, though, or else you'll just give yourself an ulcer.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Drtooth

I'd rather the heck just see how Chewie met up with Han.

I read that they were gonna film a scene in Ep 3 that showed a young Han Solo on Kashyyk (the Wookie homeworld).

Han Solo was raised in Chewbacca's clan on Kashyyk so they've kinda always known each other. It's why Han risked his life to save Chewie when he (Chewie) was a slave.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by The Shelf

Why discriminate, Peanut? Fanboys in general are something to get angry about. Why limit yourself to Star Wars fanboys? You just gotta learn to ignore them all, though, or else you'll just give yourself an ulcer.

If you read what he said again, you'll see he's saying that he's a Star Wars fanboy himself.

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

I read that they were gonna film a scene in Ep 3 that showed a young Han Solo on Kashyyk (the Wookie homeworld).

Han Solo was raised in Chewbacca's clan on Kashyyk so they've kinda always known each other. It's why Han risked his life to save Chewie when he (Chewie) was a slave.

That is an existing but wholly inaccurate account of Han's childhood.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

That is an existing but wholly inaccurate account of Han's childhood.

Han's childhood has changed a bit over the years. I see on the Wookiepedia that it's changed from him being raised on Kashyyk. Hrm...either way he was raised by a member of Chewbacca's clan, Dewlanna (a 4th cousin of Chewie).