"Shut up and blah blah"

[poiuytre]

Instead of derailing more threads with having to explain myself, I think it's high time to dedicate an entire thread to it. I'd also like to add that this is not directed at everyone. There are plenty of civil, mature members that can bring up respect even when they are disagreement. Here goes...

Why is it that so many people here think it's normal to just tell people to "shut up", always paired with a couple of insults, for no apparent reason? A misunderstanding? SHUT UP! A difference in opinion? YOUR OPINION IS WRONG, SHUT UP!! A general lack of understanding of what was being said? I DONT GET IT, SHUT UP!!! I see this in many threads again and again, tho admittedly usually by the same group of people.

At first I thought I simply rubbed some people the wrong way (because I'm one of those people with wrong personal opinions, you see) but just browsing the forum showed me this is common practice. I've even gotten PMs telling me I shouldn't think too much of the hostile attitude because it's supposed to be normal. I don't know about you guys, but I don't think it should be. It's juvenile.

Oddly enough when you check some of the offenders' their profiles, they're supposed to be over 20 years old too. You'd expect people of such ages to know a little better by now. Is this a temper problem, a lack of common courtesy or an in-joke I'm missing? (If it indeed is an in-joke, I sincerely apologise to anyone that felt targeted by this post.)

I'd really like to get some feedback on this.

[Revan]

On an online message board, no one is ever wrong. Shake it off if you don't know them IRL anyway, it doesn't matter much. It was never my intention to make enemies here, in fact I tried to make friends and talk turtles, but there are some people who hate me. It's normal... I hope

[Jester]

This thread sucks, SHUT UP!!!

J/k. Good question. It seems that it easier to belittle people whose opinions you disagree with then to actually have a thoughtful discussion. That's probably just it, why take time to post a reasoned responce when "SHUT UP!" suffices?

[愛]

You just went into the Video Games section. We're touchy when it comes to keeping your facts straight.

[Jo Dawn]

And we're admittedly a tad immature here. It's why we can't talk about a lot of grown up things. I admit this is fairly common to this forum, yet not most. Unless I just join mature forums.

Oh, c'mon, I love y'all. And it's not EVERYone.

[Jester]

To late I'm insulted. Oh and by the way Jo, SHUT UP!!!

[Revan]

you shut up, Jester!

[Jo Dawn]

Oh, I can see where this thread is going...

[Machias Banshee]

*crams a in Jester's mouth* Troublemaker....

Its just one of the things about being online. The anonymity just makes it easier for people to lash out. I mean, you wouldn't say to someone's face what some would say about other people online, right? If you badmouth your boss in the office, you're gonna have to face the consequences if he hears it. Whereas if you trash someone online, there's nobody you physically face about it (unless you know them IRL)...

I wish we could have some more mature conversations on here. But then I remember this IS a forum about the TMNT...

[Jester]

Are you saying TMNT is immature? SHUT UP!!!

Man, this thread is going to be trouble. I agree though it'd be great to see if we can be trusted with some serious and even dare i say contropversial topics. Please, Krang, oh please!!

[Cure]

From Peanut, lofl:

The only reason you're making a thread like this is because of how you're
treated in the VG section. Here's the thing, no one, under any circumstance,
will disagree with an OPINION in that section. I myself have different opinions
from a lot of the others in there, but they're not telling me to shut the hell
up. You know why? Because I don't make up bullsh*t and talk out of my ass.

You immediately lost respect points from everyone in that section when you first showed up and started posting utterances about things you clearly didn't understand. That's not trolling someone for opinion, that's trolling someone for stupidity. You then went on to post the most ridiculous thing any of us have EVER seen with that MGS4 press release.

I'm sorry, but idiotic sh*t like that just doesn't fly in there, and it's not our fault if you're too dense to realize that.

You can't just post crap like you did and then expect us to welcome you with open arms the next time you post something. It's not happening.

Ask someone like Ecto Jedi, who used to get no end of sh*t in there, before he realized what the hell was actually going on. Now he's a big part of the community we have in the VG section.

Anyone who goes in there on a regular basis know the 3 golden rules...

1) Don't talk or argue about things you don't understand.
2) Don't post your opinions as fact.
And especially rule number 3...
3) Don't take anything seriously.

Now, all this being said, grow a spine or SHUT UP!

[Machias Banshee]

The VG section is very different from the others. Maybe just posting in the other areas will give you a better idea of how the forums are....

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

On an online message board, no one is ever wrong.

[Ra]

Oh Bull...

But yes, the VG area is very different place. In there is a very tight-knit group of gamers that like to talk about...well, games. Pretty much everyone is welcome until they start...well, yeah, Peanut kinda nailed it on the head.

...now, should I jump on the "shut up!" bandwagon...?

[Krang]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

And we're admittedly a tad immature here. It's why we can't talk about a lot of grown up things. I admit this is fairly common to this forum, yet not most. Unless I just join mature forums.

Wow, you must not have seen "most" forums, then. I can think of countless forums where I've seen people in their 20s, 30s, 40s, and older arguing like kids when it comes to topics like politics or religion. If you know of forums where people can discuss those things without attacking each other, they must be either very small/new forums, forums where everyone thinks exactly alike, or very rare cases of forums where everyone gets along (which won't last long if new members are allowed to sign up).

Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

The VG section is very different from the others. Maybe just posting in the other areas will give you a better idea of how the forums are....

Originally Posted by Ra

But yes, the VG area is very different place. In there is a very tight-knit group of gamers that like to talk about...well, games. Pretty much everyone is welcome until they start...well, yeah, Peanut kinda nailed it on the head.

Bingo. The vast majority of the people who post there know each other, and the rules are more lax there. Don't use that section to judge the rest of the forums. Maybe we need some sort of disclaimer in the forum description...

Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

[Ra]

You know what? I just realized that the thread title is a mash-up of two of my favorite song lyrics...man that's deep.

[Sewer Bull]

Those must be some very deep and well-thought lyrics.

Almost Shakespearian.

[Ra]

It's pure poetry, my good friend. Pure poetry.

[Sewer Bull]

I wouldn't even dare to doubt that, grasshopper.

[Raphael_]