Wizard's top 200 characters - Page 2

*Hannah* · 06-20-2008, 01:09 PM

Spider-Man should be above Batman.

*Sewer Bull* · 06-20-2008, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

You'd think at least Tin Tin would be on there. Or Asterix.

But hey. The Tick got in at 187 or something. That's good, I suppose.

Exactly my thoughts, actually. With Tin Tin, Asterix and even with The Tick.

**Machias Banshee** · 06-20-2008, 01:34 PM

I second that. Asterix and Obelix was the first non-Garfield comic I fell in love with as a kid. They've been translated into every single language you could think of, published Everywhere, heck made into animated AND Live Action movies... How could they Not get a mention in this? It's a crime....

Ra · 06-20-2008, 10:15 PM

Wolverine at number 1?! WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?!

I really don't think this list was handled well at all. It's like they went "lol lets just put the most recognisable characters ever in the top 5". At least Joker and Hellboy managed to get into the top 10, which makes me smile. But Morphus and Death getting outranked by Kittie Pryde? *insert melodramatic action here* Ah well.

Evenstar227 · 07-31-2008, 09:41 AM

Why do they bother to make lists like this? It's totally subjective. Just because they're the ones with the publishing power? Feh.

Granted, if you go by what sells, what's popular, that's one thing. But trying to rank by coolness, or bad ass-ness, or complexity of character...I just don't see how that's possible. No one would agree with their list. It'd be like trying to order one pizza to suit several people. Odds are everyone won't agree.

And yes, Raph should be #1.

But that's just my 2¢.

*Spike Spiegel* · 07-31-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hannah

Spider-Man should be above Batman.

Sure, if you mean the way he was originally written. With all the recent crap in the Spidey comics, I have a much less clear sense of who he really is now, especially after he got turned all angry, emo, and vengeful in "Back in Black."

TuRtLeTiTaN · 10-22-2008, 11:03 AM

Ninja Turtles > Batman > Spiderman only by a small margine by each though. love all 3

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

The list is pretty...meh in my opinion as well, although I assure you that #6 has earned his spot. Many others would agree.

and yes i agree that book was amazing cant wait for the movie

*ZariusTwo* · 10-23-2008, 04:49 AM

Spider-Man's credibility is quite minimal these days. The MC2 continuity is the only "real" Spidey universe with any dignity left in it.

Superman is solid once more thanks Geoff Jones' phonemenal work on Action Comics, restoring the majesty and spirit of the character.

Logan? Meh, he's going to sink Marvel at this rate with how overexposed he is, there was a time I could read Wovlerine in the 1990s, now all I read are pages and pages of Wolvie chanting "PIKKKAAAACHUUUU"

~~Leo656~~ · 01-17-2009, 11:44 AM

Wolverine is a decent character, but number 1? If it was a beer-drinking contest, maybe...

I know I'm biased, but I do not care. Superman is number one by default if you ask any UNbiased person who is even remotely aware of comics and super-heroes. Simple reason: Without Superman, every other character that we know in comics either never would have existed, or would have been drastically different. Maybe we'd all be reading pulp and western comics, and The Shadow or Billy the Kid would be number one. But no, Superman's creation built the foundation for every single thing to follow in super-hero comics. It's like showing props to Elvis as an entertainer, or Einstein for the theory of relativity: No matter what you think about 'em individually, take away what they accomplished and you're left with nothing. Without Elvis white people would still be rocking out to Mozart, and without Einstein, Don King would have a normal haircut. Superman inspired a billion imitators in the comic book field and the character created the super-hero genre more or less. Thus, it's not even a discussion IMO: Superman at number one, Batman at number two, and everything past that is all just subjective.

I do enjoy lists, though...

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 01-17-2009, 05:21 PM

I'm not a big fan of these lists. Everyone is going to have their own personal list, trying to come up with just one supposedly "definite" list seems kind of pointless. I'm not saying reviews are irrelevant because everyone has different tastes, but ranking stuff doesn't seem right a lot of the time.

Plus different characters in that list fit in all different kinds of stories sometimes, so I don't get how they can be compared. If they were going to make lists, at least separate the superhero characters from the non-superhero characters.

01-17-2009, 05:36 PM

That list is absolute rubbish.
First, I'm going to have to agree with Leo that Superman should be #1 for all the reasons he stated.
Second, some of those listed characters aren't all that interesting or creative.

I'm glad to see a TMNT character on the list. But Raph? Come on... since when did being emo become cool?
I would have put either Leonardo for being the top dog and TMNT poster boy, or Michelangelo for his legacy in the 80s tv series.
And as for most interesting ninja Turtle, I'd give that to Donatello. That guy is deep. More so than alot of people realize.

*Hannah* · 01-17-2009, 05:50 PM

Necroposting woooooooo

01-17-2009, 05:54 PM

WTF? I just noticed the dates. hahaha!

Oh man... and I thought this was new.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 01-17-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hannah

Necroposting woooooooo

Eh, it's not that old. How many really active topics are here anyway?

~~Leo656~~ · 01-19-2009, 11:16 AM

Heh yeah sorry, I almost never get on anymore... just digging up dirt where I can, heh....

01-20-2009, 12:44 AM

Actually, looking now at the dates of some of the threads in this section, if you found this thread on the first page, then no, I wouldn't call it necroposting.
This is just not a very active section it seems.

*That Matt Guy* · 01-20-2009, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

That list is absolute rubbish.

You're just upset because Goku isn't on there.

01-20-2009, 01:02 AM

eep!

*hides*

cMac44111 · 02-01-2009, 04:55 PM

eh, this list isn't that bad. Wolverine shouldn't be #1 maybe behind the top 3. But they left out a few I wished was up there.

Any TMNT, and maybe Shredder. It might be my bias, But I think they should all be considered. Maybe we should just be glad a Turtle even made it.
Gambit. Left him out for whatever reason, and I don't know why considering how popular he is.
Lucifer
Iceman
Archangel
Doomsday
The Phantom
Kevin
Thanos
The Ronin
V
Martian Manhunter
Brainiac
And if they include G.I. Joes then why not Transformers?
That's it for now. Maybe I'll think of some others.

06-20-2008, 01:09 PM	#21
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Spider-Man should be above Batman. __________________

06-20-2008, 10:15 PM	#24
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	Wolverine at number 1?! WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?! I really don't think this list was handled well at all. It's like they went "lol lets just put the most recognisable characters ever in the top 5". At least Joker and Hellboy managed to get into the top 10, which makes me smile. But Morphus and Death getting outranked by Kittie Pryde? insert melodramatic action here Ah well. __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

07-31-2008, 09:41 AM	#25
Evenstar227 Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: 42 Burr Hill Rd Posts: 513	Why do they bother to make lists like this? It's totally subjective. Just because they're the ones with the publishing power? Feh. Granted, if you go by what sells, what's popular, that's one thing. But trying to rank by coolness, or bad ass-ness, or complexity of character...I just don't see how that's possible. No one would agree with their list. It'd be like trying to order one pizza to suit several people. Odds are everyone won't agree. And yes, Raph should be #1. But that's just my 2¢. __________________ In the beginning...

10-23-2008, 04:49 AM	#28
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,491	Spider-Man's credibility is quite minimal these days. The MC2 continuity is the only "real" Spidey universe with any dignity left in it. Superman is solid once more thanks Geoff Jones' phonemenal work on Action Comics, restoring the majesty and spirit of the character. Logan? Meh, he's going to sink Marvel at this rate with how overexposed he is, there was a time I could read Wovlerine in the 1990s, now all I read are pages and pages of Wolvie chanting "PIKKKAAAACHUUUU" __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

01-17-2009, 05:36 PM	#31
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	That list is absolute rubbish. First, I'm going to have to agree with Leo that Superman should be #1 for all the reasons he stated. Second, some of those listed characters aren't all that interesting or creative. I'm glad to see a TMNT character on the list. But Raph? Come on... since when did being emo become cool? I would have put either Leonardo for being the top dog and TMNT poster boy, or Michelangelo for his legacy in the 80s tv series. And as for most interesting ninja Turtle, I'd give that to Donatello. That guy is deep. More so than alot of people realize. Last edited by Ryona; 01-17-2009 at 05:44 PM.

06-20-2008, 01:34 PM	#23
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	I second that. Asterix and Obelix was the first non-Garfield comic I fell in love with as a kid. They've been translated into every single language you could think of, published Everywhere, heck made into animated AND Live Action movies... How could they Not get a mention in this? It's a crime....

01-17-2009, 11:44 AM	#29
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Wolverine is a decent character, but number 1? If it was a beer-drinking contest, maybe... I know I'm biased, but I do not care. Superman is number one by default if you ask any UNbiased person who is even remotely aware of comics and super-heroes. Simple reason: Without Superman, every other character that we know in comics either never would have existed, or would have been drastically different. Maybe we'd all be reading pulp and western comics, and The Shadow or Billy the Kid would be number one. But no, Superman's creation built the foundation for every single thing to follow in super-hero comics. It's like showing props to Elvis as an entertainer, or Einstein for the theory of relativity: No matter what you think about 'em individually, take away what they accomplished and you're left with nothing. Without Elvis white people would still be rocking out to Mozart, and without Einstein, Don King would have a normal haircut. Superman inspired a billion imitators in the comic book field and the character created the super-hero genre more or less. Thus, it's not even a discussion IMO: Superman at number one, Batman at number two, and everything past that is all just subjective. I do enjoy lists, though...

01-17-2009, 05:21 PM	#30
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	I'm not a big fan of these lists. Everyone is going to have their own personal list, trying to come up with just one supposedly "definite" list seems kind of pointless. I'm not saying reviews are irrelevant because everyone has different tastes, but ranking stuff doesn't seem right a lot of the time. Plus different characters in that list fit in all different kinds of stories sometimes, so I don't get how they can be compared. If they were going to make lists, at least separate the superhero characters from the non-superhero characters.

01-17-2009, 05:50 PM	#32
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Necroposting woooooooo __________________

01-17-2009, 05:54 PM	#33
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	WTF? I just noticed the dates. hahaha! Oh man... and I thought this was new.

01-19-2009, 11:16 AM	#35
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Heh yeah sorry, I almost never get on anymore... just digging up dirt where I can, heh....

01-20-2009, 12:44 AM	#36
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	Actually, looking now at the dates of some of the threads in this section, if you found this thread on the first page, then no, I wouldn't call it necroposting. This is just not a very active section it seems.

01-20-2009, 01:02 AM	#38
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	eep! hides

02-01-2009, 04:55 PM	#39
cMac44111 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ? Posts: 143	eh, this list isn't that bad. Wolverine shouldn't be #1 maybe behind the top 3. But they left out a few I wished was up there. Any TMNT, and maybe Shredder. It might be my bias, But I think they should all be considered. Maybe we should just be glad a Turtle even made it. Gambit. Left him out for whatever reason, and I don't know why considering how popular he is. Lucifer Iceman Archangel Doomsday The Phantom Kevin Thanos The Ronin V Martian Manhunter Brainiac And if they include G.I. Joes then why not Transformers? That's it for now. Maybe I'll think of some others.