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Old 09-09-2008, 04:12 PM   #1
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Monday evening, the UN’s top Climate Scientist, Rajendra Pachuari, will speak in London at a meeting organized by Compassion in World Farming (CIWF), urging people to fight global warming by taking meat off their menu. Dr. Pachuari has recently been re-appointed to his second, six-year term as chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). The IPCC collects and evaluates climate data for governments around the world, and was the recipient of the Nobel Prize in 2007, along with Al Gore. Dr. Pachuari told the BBC: “I want to highlight the fact that among options for mitigating climate change, changing diets is something one should consider.”


UN data says that meat production accounts for about 18% of worldwide greenhouse gas emissions, topping even transportation, which accounts for 13% of worldwide emissions. The UN included all aspects of meat production, when arriving at the 18% figure: clearing land, creation and transportation of fertilizers, burning fuels in farm vehicles, and the emissions coming directly from cows and sheep.


There are three main greenhouse gases involved in meat production: methane, nitrous oxide and carbon dioxide. People have begun to think about ways of farming meat that produce less emissions. One possibility to is genetically engineer cattle that produce less methane. The biggest source of carbon dioxide emissions from meat production, however, is land clearance, which will likely continue as long as the demand for meat continues to rise.
CIWF’s ambassador Joyce D’Silva told the BBC: “Surveys show people are anxious about their personal carbon footprints and cutting back on car journeys and so on; but they may not realize that changing what’s on their plate could have an even bigger effect.”
http://planetsave.com/blog/2008/09/0...ing-less-meat/


also I was kidding about the title... please don't beat me up on the internet.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:17 PM   #2
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Get over it already.

I'm cool with people making life choices, but you don't need to try and tell people what to do. And I'm not saying that's what you're doing, but it's just something that really annoys me.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:21 PM   #3
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Oh, before everyone starts yelling at me, please don't, I just wanted to post this because I thought it was interesting. I really don't want to be yelled at anymoremoremore
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:25 PM   #4
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But part of the meat production is still transportation, which is included in the emissions for meat. So I guess when you think about it, it isn't surprising at all.

But I will not change my eating habits because of this.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:47 PM   #5
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Screw you, Dr. Pachuari, you're not my father! *eats a pig*
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:48 PM   #6
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This news isn't new The UN is just stupid for not doing anything. We don't need to stop meat production completely we just need to lessen the amount of cattle being produced. Chicken or Turkey is a good substitute. If you really want a burger get buffalo meat it's grown free range and it's pretty close to how beef taste. It's not too expensive either I know my Safeway sells it.

Funny this was site cited as one of my sources a few months ago when I did a speech about it for a speaking class. So was Earthsave.com.
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Old 09-09-2008, 04:53 PM   #7
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Osterich is a great beef substitute. It tastes exactly like beef and is super nummy.

But there's no way to stop this. Cows burp/fart Methane. So do sheep and any other 4 stomach animals. Can't be helped when it's nature that's doing the polluting.
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:10 PM   #8
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Osterich is a great beef substitute. It tastes exactly like beef and is super nummy.
Word to that. I haven't had in in awhile though they don't sell it as commonly in the part of Cali where I live.


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But there's no way to stop this. Cows burp/fart Methane. So do sheep and any other 4 stomach animals. Can't be helped when it's nature that's doing the polluting.
Well actually there is. The reason there's so many cows is we are producing them to eat. If we didn't make cows for meat consumption there wouldn't be so many and then the amount of pollution would be cut down quite a bit. We are doing things to the Earth it was not built to handle in a sense. Also clearing out acres of rain forest, which produces oxygen, to make room for mo cattle is like throwing newspaper at an already raging fire.

And global warming is just one form of pollution the cows have. The hormones they pump them full of gets washed into the ocean either by us or by the cow crap when it rains and poisons the sea life. Fish is practically uneatable anymore.
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Old 09-09-2008, 05:26 PM   #9
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This news isn't new The UN is just stupid for not doing anything. We don't need to stop meat production completely we just need to lessen the amount of cattle being produced. Chicken or Turkey is a good substitute. If you really want a burger get buffalo meat it's grown free range and it's pretty close to how beef taste. It's not too expensive either I know my Safeway sells it.
And they wouldn't completely ruin the environment with that stuff, how? Big Business doesn't care. It doesn't. That's not news. Even if everyone on Earth were to become a vegetarian, what makes people think that they just wouldn't pump hormones into that stuff too?
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:00 PM   #10
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I'll admit I haven't given this much thought, or attention, and don't really care to but...

Is this not false economy anyway? The emissions from meat production are high because there is a lot of it...

Hypothetically, if meat were to be stopped being produced then the production of something else would have to go up to replace it, therefore emissions would theoretically stay the same.
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:02 PM   #11
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no f-ing chance that i'm going to stop eating beef.

i still think emissions from cars and industry are a bigger problem than a bunch of cow farts.
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:13 PM   #12
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Global Warming is a myth created by politicians to gain kudos from voters.
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:36 PM   #13
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And they wouldn't completely ruin the environment with that stuff, how? Big Business doesn't care. It doesn't. That's not news. Even if everyone on Earth were to become a vegetarian, what makes people think that they just wouldn't pump hormones into that stuff too?
No that's another battle. Monsanto bought up all the seeds because some jack ass at the copyright company decided you can copyright an organism so they created their own seed that is resistant to their pesticide but it's horribly bad for you and only organic stuff doesn't have it.

But it's sad I grew up eating that stuff and organic stuff tastes funny to me. It taste like it has a chemical taste even though it's everything else that's covered in chemicals.

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no f-ing chance that i'm going to stop eating beef.
Oh I agree, I'm cooking a tritip as I type this.

{quote]I still think emissions from cars and industry are a bigger problem than a bunch of cow farts.[/QUOTE]
Actually one cow produces more gas then two cars I believe it was. Yeah it's frightening and baffling to think about.

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Global Warming is a myth created by politicians to gain kudos from voters.
Yes and eating cows is good because they eat grass which cuts down on brush fires in the summer.

That was something that was actually posted on this website when I did my research. http://www.beeffrompasturetoplate.org/default.aspx

I can see it's now since been removed. I don't know about you but I've noticed it's been getting hotter in the summer.
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Old 09-09-2008, 06:42 PM   #14
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no f-ing chance that i'm going to stop eating beef.

i still think emissions from cars and industry are a bigger problem than a bunch of cow farts.
The faster we eat em, the last chance they have to fart.

Also, I've stopped eating all vegetation entirely, since they clean the air.

While my diet replants the rain forest, Dr. Pussscardi is just trying to save his ass from the wrath of Kalki. *cough*agenda*cough*
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:19 PM   #15
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I've heard this a few years ago, I think on a Penn & Teller episode. There's not a lot you can do to change than lessen the amount of our cattle.
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Old 09-09-2008, 07:25 PM   #16
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The faster we eat em, the last chance they have to fart.
Agreed. Veal for everyone.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:10 PM   #17
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:16 PM   #18
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Global Warming is a myth created by politicians to gain kudos from voters.
Did you really just say that? I don't think you're capable of sarcasm, so excuse me while my head explodes.
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:20 PM   #19
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...but what about the global cooling they're talking about now? We're going towards a new ice age!
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Old 09-09-2008, 10:24 PM   #20
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Sorry, to be a tool Machi, but the prefered modern term is "Global Climate Change"...it catches both extremes.
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