What kinda moron lets his 8 year old son shoot an Uzi? - Page 2

Jon · 10-28-2008, 05:30 PM

Um... Anarky; This incident was at a gun*show*. As such, the weapons were on display, etc. not people's own purchased firearms. So please stop this high attitude with such foolish comments.

*Anarky* · 10-28-2008, 05:39 PM

Then what does a gun-show need a fire-ready Uzi loaded with live rounds for? What could anyone need an Uzi with live rounds for?

Actually, what difference does it make if it's a regular shooting range or a gun-show? I don't think anyone's going to go "Oh, it happened at a gun-show, so it's okay..." in this case, unless gun-shows are the place where you mow down kids with a Metal Storm gun. If that's the case, then it's an entirely different, cultural matter my european brain can't comprehend.

*Mecha Cow* · 10-28-2008, 05:56 PM

It's a moot point because even with current US gun laws, the kid still wasn't legally allowed to handle a firearm. Letting a child use a (live) gun under any circumstance is stupid and irresponsible, and that's really all there is to it.

Jon · 10-28-2008, 06:00 PM

That's not what I was meaning. As you were making it sound like someone owned the gun and was letting the kid use it (like the perverbial backyard shoot). Instead of a gunshow. So stop the attitude, and mistaking people's posts for something else.

*Sewer Bull* · 10-28-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buslady

This wasn't posted to have some political thing argued. So please don't get into it.

But, it's kind of natural to discuss easy access to firearms when accidents like that happen.

After all, school massacres are much more common in the US than in Europe.

*KROW* · 10-28-2008, 07:12 PM

It's sad that the child died, and I was actually going to come in here and spout my own view on the matter, but then I found I had a crushed tater tot on the bottom of my sock and realized I have my own problems.

poiuytre · 10-28-2008, 08:07 PM

It's really sad that this has happened and the instructor should never have allowed it to come that far. It's supposed to be his job to know which weapons have too strong recoil for a child to handle. I can't really put much blame on the father. If an instructor was OK with it, many parents would assume it's safe enough. He was most likely under the impression the weapon wasn't loaded either.

While these accidents that happen very, very little, they are the main cause of the knee-jerk reactions for gun-control. Without threading too deeply into the subject, it might be interesting for people that don't entirely understand the gun issue to give this a look. (If you've got the time that is.) In a nutshell, firearms are too engrained into this society to the point where trying to get rid of them would only make the country a less stable place.

My condolences go out to the Bizilj family.

Type 97 Chi-ha · 10-28-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

It's a moot point because even with current US gun laws, the kid still wasn't legally allowed to handle a firearm. Letting a child use a (live) gun under any circumstance is stupid and irresponsible, and that's really all there is to it.

Want to know of an even worse example? A few years ago there were several preteen children (with adult copilots, but still...) competing for the record of world's youngest pilot. One boy made it safely, but he had to have special extensions placed on the pedals and other controls for his task because of his small size.

Then came a much more publicized example, where an even younger girl was trying to fly a small airplane-and crashed, killing her and her adult copilot companion. There was a big outcry about this practice in the news media and among the public about how stupid this whole idea was to begin with, and presumably the whole youngest pilot competition idea was kiboshed after that.

The girl in the news photo was obviously very young and small, and showed her wearing a cap with the message "WOMEN FLY," though a lot of people commented on the fact that a young girl is not an adult woman.

I assume at least some of you remember this story.

*Mecha Cow* · 10-28-2008, 09:13 PM

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While these accidents that happen very, very little, they are the main cause of the knee-jerk reactions for gun-control. Without threading too deeply into the subject, it might be interesting for people that don't entirely understand the gun issue to give this a look. (If you've got the time that is.) In a nutshell, firearms are too engrained into this society to the point where trying to get rid of them would only make the country a less stable place.

Well, to be fair a lot of people genuinely are in favor of gun control, and like I noted earlier this case was an accident that has little to do with the actual subject anyway.

Also, while that video is nice, it can hardly be called objective. There certainly are valid arguments (and some not-so-valid ones as well) in favor of gun rights but I don't think it's fair at all to dismiss the arguments against it. This stuff goes both ways.

*Drtooth* · 10-29-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarky

Then what does a gun-show need a fire-ready Uzi loaded with live rounds for? What could anyone need an Uzi with live rounds for?

I think we can all attest to that, gun control or not. But the fact they have one of those, loaded, and not even some supervisors or something is completely idiotic.

And I do agree... why would anyone need that out of combat? And Loaded yet?

*Buslady* · 10-29-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

But, it's kind of natural to discuss easy access to firearms when accidents like that happen.

After all, school massacres are much more common in the US than in Europe.

yeah i know it just isn't meant to turn out into a political argument.

*Hannah* · 10-29-2008, 09:52 PM

This guy died on my block and they auctioned off his gun collection, and all these rednecks were leaving with 4 or 5 guns each. I mean, one guy bought the sight to a grenade launcher.

Just thought I'd mention that, lulz

Raphael_ · 10-29-2008, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buslady

What kinda moron lets his 8 year old son shoot an Uzi?

I think the answer is in the question.

Rah Dutchy · 10-31-2008, 02:34 PM

[Edit: Sorry, but bashing religions is not acceptable here.]

*Anarky* · 10-31-2008, 03:59 PM

Yes, Mormons, the most Uzi-heavy religion there is.

Two things:

1. This thread is about a boy's auto-headshot.
2. Religious and political debates are not allowed here unless otherwise specified.

**GK Punk** · 10-31-2008, 04:01 PM

...How did Mormon's get dragged in to this? And yeah, what Anarky said.

*Cure* · 10-31-2008, 04:19 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I think he misread "moron" in the title as "mormon". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

*Buslady* · 10-31-2008, 07:05 PM

O.O

WTF?

Oy....some people.

Archon_Turtle · 10-31-2008, 07:14 PM

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Now gun safety experts — and some gun enthusiasts at the club where the shooting happened — are wondering why such a young child was allowed to fire a weapon used in war.

Because we are running out of volunteers?

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 11-06-2008, 05:34 PM

I recall this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buell_Elementary_School, the 2000 school shooting. It was in "Bowling for Columbine".

10-28-2008, 05:39 PM	#22
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	Then what does a gun-show need a fire-ready Uzi loaded with live rounds for? What could anyone need an Uzi with live rounds for? Actually, what difference does it make if it's a regular shooting range or a gun-show? I don't think anyone's going to go "Oh, it happened at a gun-show, so it's okay..." in this case, unless gun-shows are the place where you mow down kids with a Metal Storm gun. If that's the case, then it's an entirely different, cultural matter my european brain can't comprehend. __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

10-28-2008, 05:56 PM	#23
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	It's a moot point because even with current US gun laws, the kid still wasn't legally allowed to handle a firearm. Letting a child use a (live) gun under any circumstance is stupid and irresponsible, and that's really all there is to it. __________________

10-28-2008, 07:12 PM	#26
KROW Meat-n-Potatoes Man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State's Anus, NY Posts: 6,472	It's sad that the child died, and I was actually going to come in here and spout my own view on the matter, but then I found I had a crushed tater tot on the bottom of my sock and realized I have my own problems. __________________ - Optimus Acid Trip - Cult of a Half-Shell - Raiden's Bitter Tongue - *I don't try to be funny; I fail at it naturally.*

10-28-2008, 08:07 PM	#27
poiuytre Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 437	It's really sad that this has happened and the instructor should never have allowed it to come that far. It's supposed to be his job to know which weapons have too strong recoil for a child to handle. I can't really put much blame on the father. If an instructor was OK with it, many parents would assume it's safe enough. He was most likely under the impression the weapon wasn't loaded either. While these accidents that happen very, very little, they are the main cause of the knee-jerk reactions for gun-control. Without threading too deeply into the subject, it might be interesting for people that don't entirely understand the gun issue to give this a look. (If you've got the time that is.) In a nutshell, firearms are too engrained into this society to the point where trying to get rid of them would only make the country a less stable place. My condolences go out to the Bizilj family. __________________ "That girl...she said that the sky frightened her. That looks so...liberating."

10-29-2008, 09:52 PM	#32
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	This guy died on my block and they auctioned off his gun collection, and all these rednecks were leaving with 4 or 5 guns each. I mean, one guy bought the sight to a grenade launcher. Just thought I'd mention that, lulz __________________

10-28-2008, 05:30 PM	#21
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	Um... Anarky; This incident was at a gunshow. As such, the weapons were on display, etc. not people's own purchased firearms. So please stop this high attitude with such foolish comments.

10-28-2008, 06:00 PM	#24
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	That's not what I was meaning. As you were making it sound like someone owned the gun and was letting the kid use it (like the perverbial backyard shoot). Instead of a gunshow. So stop the attitude, and mistaking people's posts for something else.

10-31-2008, 02:34 PM	#34
Rah Dutchy Mouser Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	[Edit: Sorry, but bashing religions is not acceptable here.] __________________ http://rtufss.net I wouldn't go to this site EVER! If you aren't cool enough, or you are a normal person...

10-31-2008, 03:59 PM	#35
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	Yes, Mormons, the most Uzi-heavy religion there is. Two things: 1. This thread is about a boy's auto-headshot. 2. Religious and political debates are not allowed here unless otherwise specified. __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

10-31-2008, 04:01 PM	#36
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	...How did Mormon's get dragged in to this? And yeah, what Anarky said.

10-31-2008, 04:19 PM	#37
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I think he misread "moron" in the title as "mormon". HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! __________________

10-31-2008, 07:05 PM	#38
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	O.O WTF? Oy....some people. __________________

11-06-2008, 05:34 PM	#40
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	I recall this I recall this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buell_Elementary_School, the 2000 school shooting. It was in "Bowling for Columbine".