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**ThirdMarioBro** · 11-21-2008, 10:29 PM

What this basically amounts to is the following: Infinity Ward rocks my balls, and Treyarch sucks my balls.

Peanut · 11-21-2008, 10:36 PM

As far as I'm concerned, Call of Duty has gotten a free pass it doesn't deserve. All of the games have been full of AI problems, and they're nothing more than an extremely linear, event focused, shooting gallery. They still utilize monster closets for f*ck sakes.

I don't understand how people can think these games are so wonderful.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-21-2008, 11:29 PM

"Monster Closets": explain.

Peanut · 11-22-2008, 12:39 AM

Think about Doom. The game, not you. Think about how walls would just disappear, or doors would open, and monsters would just pour out to attack you. When you look where they came from, it's just a small space, big enough to fit those enemies that just came out. In essence, a closet for monsters. CoD is filled with those.

Very specifically, I recall an open door in CoD4 that you couldn't go through, but endless enemies would spawn and come through it until you physically moved past an invisible barrier that basically told the game "OK. No more dudes spawn in here now!" that **** is completely unacceptable at this point in time.

I found them all over the place in World at War, as well. There was this section where I just couldn't seem to do anything, because enemies would just keep coming out to replace every one I killed. I found away around the area, and when I looked where the enemies kept running from, it was literally just a dead-end hallway.

Monster closets. The sh*ttiest, easiest way to insert enemies into your terribly linear and unoriginal level design.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-22-2008, 03:42 AM

Force Unleashed had a lot of that.

Peanut · 11-22-2008, 06:27 AM

Yeah. It had a sh*t load of that on the levels aboard Imperial ships.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-22-2008, 11:43 AM

The very first room of The Death Star comes to mind specifically. I died like a dozen times before I realized those mother****ers never stopped coming.

Peanut · 11-22-2008, 03:22 PM

Wait. The first room on the last level? I didn't notice anything like that in there.

There are certainly no "infinitely spawning" monster closets in Force Unleashed, there are a very fixed amount of enemies, but there are a ton of plain old Doom-style monster closets.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-22-2008, 09:14 PM

That first room where you have to pull up the floor and drop into the laser tube. There's a couple AT-STs or AT-KTs and turrets and shock troopers and all that ****....believe me, they do not stop coming, and there are 4 monster closets in there that Storm Troopers just keep pouring out of.

Peanut · 11-22-2008, 09:16 PM

Yes, they do. I played through that game 5 times. After that platform rises twice, they stop coming. There are monster closets, but they're not infinitely spawning ones. Which are the most annoying, and the ones I was referring to.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-23-2008, 01:03 AM

We can find much better things to argue about than this.

poiuytre · 11-23-2008, 01:05 PM

(Surprised I haven't seen any posts of this yet) Sonic Unleashed.

I put down Mario Galaxy for it and I have no intention of seeing that boring Mario 64 rehash(I kid, it's an ok tho overrated game) again until I've finished Unleashed 100%.

I had high expectations and this game has managed to exceed them. Even the Werehog stages that had the potential of being subpar are pretty solid (tho not as good as the insane Sonic stages). The daytime rooftop run act 1 was the most mind-meltingly fun piece of videogaming I had since Sonic 2. The graphics are also the best you'll have ever seen. It looks like a Pixar movie. Maybe the story is a little light tho but still it's one of, if not the best Sonic game ever made. It suffers the most from the piles of hate the series gathered with Sonic 06 but most of the criticism has been addressed.

It doesn't happen often, but it great to see a new entry in a classic and iconic franchise without flaw. How can they still top this? My only guess is to make the next one pure-Sonic without any transformations. I've been grinning ever since I started playing and I'm still doing it while I typing this. SO GOOD.

*Mecha Cow* · 11-23-2008, 02:14 PM

Why... why are you calling Sonic flawless and Mario overrated, all in one post? Are you doing it to hurt me? Why do you want to hurt me?

In all seriousness, I'm glad to hear this game appears to break the Sonic Curse, though Sonic is beyond redemption in my book.

Bigfoot · 11-23-2008, 03:02 PM

Probably a dumb question, and I thought you guys would know.. But, is there a place to trade/sell games here on the forums?

Peanut · 11-23-2008, 04:29 PM

Poiuytre has said some really stupid sh*t before, but this takes the god damn cake.

Bigfoot · 11-23-2008, 04:47 PM

I see how it is...

No soup for you!

愛 · 11-23-2008, 04:48 PM

There's a section in TMNT, but not in General Discussion.

Peanut · 11-23-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigfoot

I see how it is...

No soup for you!

Sorry, dude. Didn't see you. I had to say something about the post above you. lawl

No, there's no place to trade games here. I guess you could start a thread for it if you wanted to get something like that going.

*Ninjinister* · 11-23-2008, 05:08 PM

Despite the forum indicating it is specifically for TMNT items, there are many topics regarding non TMNT-items in the Buying/Selling/Trading forum.

*Mecha Cow* · 11-23-2008, 05:37 PM

I doubt many VGers visit that section, so it would probably be best to start a thread about it here.

11-21-2008, 10:29 PM	#3041
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	What this basically amounts to is the following: Infinity Ward rocks my balls, and Treyarch sucks my balls. __________________

11-21-2008, 11:29 PM	#3043
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	"Monster Closets": explain. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

11-22-2008, 03:42 AM	#3045
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Force Unleashed had a lot of that. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

11-22-2008, 11:43 AM	#3047
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	The very first room of The Death Star comes to mind specifically. I died like a dozen times before I realized those mother**ers never stopped coming. __________________ I love you, Pickle.**

11-22-2008, 09:14 PM	#3049
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	That first room where you have to pull up the floor and drop into the laser tube. There's a couple AT-STs or AT-KTs and turrets and shock troopers and all that **....believe me, they do not stop coming, and there are 4 monster closets in there that Storm Troopers just keep pouring out of. __________________ I love you, Pickle.**

11-21-2008, 10:36 PM	#3042
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	As far as I'm concerned, Call of Duty has gotten a free pass it doesn't deserve. All of the games have been full of AI problems, and they're nothing more than an extremely linear, event focused, shooting gallery. They still utilize monster closets for f*ck sakes. I don't understand how people can think these games are so wonderful.

11-22-2008, 12:39 AM	#3044
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Think about Doom. The game, not you. Think about how walls would just disappear, or doors would open, and monsters would just pour out to attack you. When you look where they came from, it's just a small space, big enough to fit those enemies that just came out. In essence, a closet for monsters. CoD is filled with those. Very specifically, I recall an open door in CoD4 that you couldn't go through, but endless enemies would spawn and come through it until you physically moved past an invisible barrier that basically told the game "OK. No more dudes spawn in here now!" that **** is completely unacceptable at this point in time. I found them all over the place in World at War, as well. There was this section where I just couldn't seem to do anything, because enemies would just keep coming out to replace every one I killed. I found away around the area, and when I looked where the enemies kept running from, it was literally just a dead-end hallway. Monster closets. The sh*ttiest, easiest way to insert enemies into your terribly linear and unoriginal level design.

11-22-2008, 06:27 AM	#3046
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Yeah. It had a sh*t load of that on the levels aboard Imperial ships.

11-22-2008, 03:22 PM	#3048
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Wait. The first room on the last level? I didn't notice anything like that in there. There are certainly no "infinitely spawning" monster closets in Force Unleashed, there are a very fixed amount of enemies, but there are a ton of plain old Doom-style monster closets.

11-22-2008, 09:16 PM	#3050
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Yes, they do. I played through that game 5 times. After that platform rises twice, they stop coming. There are monster closets, but they're not infinitely spawning ones. Which are the most annoying, and the ones I was referring to.

11-23-2008, 01:03 AM	#3051
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	We can find much better things to argue about than this. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

11-23-2008, 01:05 PM	#3052
poiuytre Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 437	(Surprised I haven't seen any posts of this yet) Sonic Unleashed. I put down Mario Galaxy for it and I have no intention of seeing that boring Mario 64 rehash(I kid, it's an ok tho overrated game) again until I've finished Unleashed 100%. I had high expectations and this game has managed to exceed them. Even the Werehog stages that had the potential of being subpar are pretty solid (tho not as good as the insane Sonic stages). The daytime rooftop run act 1 was the most mind-meltingly fun piece of videogaming I had since Sonic 2. The graphics are also the best you'll have ever seen. It looks like a Pixar movie. Maybe the story is a little light tho but still it's one of, if not the best Sonic game ever made. It suffers the most from the piles of hate the series gathered with Sonic 06 but most of the criticism has been addressed. It doesn't happen often, but it great to see a new entry in a classic and iconic franchise without flaw. How can they still top this? My only guess is to make the next one pure-Sonic without any transformations. I've been grinning ever since I started playing and I'm still doing it while I typing this. SO GOOD. __________________ "That girl...she said that the sky frightened her. That looks so...liberating."

11-23-2008, 02:14 PM	#3053
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Why... why are you calling Sonic flawless and Mario overrated, all in one post? Are you doing it to hurt me? Why do you want to hurt me? In all seriousness, I'm glad to hear this game appears to break the Sonic Curse, though Sonic is beyond redemption in my book. __________________

11-23-2008, 03:02 PM	#3054
Bigfoot Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wandering aimlessly... Posts: 764	Probably a dumb question, and I thought you guys would know.. But, is there a place to trade/sell games here on the forums? __________________

11-23-2008, 04:29 PM	#3055
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Poiuytre has said some really stupid sh*t before, but this takes the god damn cake.

11-23-2008, 04:47 PM	#3056
Bigfoot Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Wandering aimlessly... Posts: 764	I see how it is... No soup for you! __________________

11-23-2008, 04:48 PM	#3057
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	There's a section in TMNT, but not in General Discussion.

11-23-2008, 05:08 PM	#3059
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	Despite the forum indicating it is specifically for TMNT items, there are many topics regarding non TMNT-items in the Buying/Selling/Trading forum. __________________

11-23-2008, 05:37 PM	#3060
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	I doubt many VGers visit that section, so it would probably be best to start a thread about it here. __________________