There's Only One Man Who Could Save the Turtles... - Page 4

*Andrew NDB* · 01-31-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

"Saban's particulary campy style"

...Oh, you mean the kind of "camp" where Zordon pressures Andros into assisted suicide so he can murder a whole contingent of terrorists and "purify" selected humans in the most racist display from him as a character yet?

Yeah, THAT kind of campy?

Yeah, pretty much.

**Jester** · 01-31-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarius

...Oh, you mean the kind of "camp" where Zordon pressures Andros into assisted suicide so he can murder a whole contingent of terrorists and "purify" selected humans in the most racist display from him as a character yet?

Totally as serious and non campy as you claim...

No. No racism. Where see racism?

**Venom** · 01-31-2009, 09:44 PM

Lol, I didn't get to see the vid but I'm sure if it was Power Rangers it was campy. Frantically waving baddies, sparkling battle wounds, characters who have to bounce their heads to make their mouth move...yeah. Poor Turtles, got sucked into the whirlpool of lame during Saban's reign in the late '90's.

And to poke fun at Jester's taste in movies, he does freely admit it under his name!

But you can't deny that Johnny-5 was awesome! And the last Rambo flick was the best one in the series...he freakin' obliterated a dude into a puddle of guts with a .50 cal machine gun!!! Fave part for me: when he shot the merc through the head with an arrow, classic Rambo right there.

To make this Turtle related, imagine the guys in a heated battle with the Foot; they bear down on Mikey, who is lying on the ground; Raph sees what's happening, crushes a soldier's spot between the eyes and back-jabs one under the ribcage. He is clearly in no position to help his brother. He calls out to Leo as he slashes a Foot soldier; he clears through a few more with some awesome swordsmanship, flings some shurikens and takes out a Foot archer on a ledge who is about to shoot off an arrow at Don. Leo picks up the bow and arrow, takes aim at the Foot overlording Mikey and pops one through the chest and another through the head.

*VaughnMichael* · 02-01-2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Such a lonely gay in the village.

How Can This Be! I Am The Only Gay On The Technodrome! So You Musn't Be!

*ZariusTwo* · 02-01-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Michelangelo83

Lol, I didn't get to see the vid but I'm sure if it was Power Rangers it was campy. Frantically waving baddies, sparkling battle wounds, characters who have to bounce their heads to make their mouth move...yeah. Poor Turtles, got sucked into the whirlpool of lame during Saban's reign in the late '90's.

If you didnt see it, then you have no say in the matter, not to mention you'd probably only see the "camp" and not the intent

Ah the narrow-mindedness of youth...or just narrow-mindedness in general

Keep proving me right

There was nothing lame about Saban's hold on things in the 1990s. Fact.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yeah, pretty much.

And with that, I win the argument.

*VaughnMichael* · 02-01-2009, 07:25 AM

Zarius, just so you know the reason I posted computer Says no before was because the video doesn't work on here.

Jelly Bean · 02-02-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VaughnMichael

How Can This Be! I Am The Only Gay On The Technodrome! So You Musn't Be!

who is this dude in the red shirt supposed to be?

*VaughnMichael* · 02-02-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jelly Bean

who is this dude in the red shirt supposed to be?

Oh he's from a show called Little Britain

**Jester** · 02-02-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

No. No racism. Where see racism?

I agree Jester. Does anyone see racism in that clip Zarius posted?

*Cipher* · 02-02-2009, 06:15 PM

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[If you didnt see it, then you have no say in the matter, not to mention you'd probably only see the "camp" and not the intent.

But "camp" by its very nature has everything to do with execution, and nothing to do with intent (unless something is intentionally kitschy). "Plan 6 From Outer Space" was intended to be a somewhat serious sci-fi movie, but no one would argue it wasn't camp.

At any rate, the intent of sentai has always been to entertain small Japanese children with silly monsters and stylized fights. It's well within the territory of camp, or even kitsch because it never even pretends to be anything more. Nothing wrong with it, I myself love Godzilla movies, but you can't ask people to take it seriously.

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I agree Jester. Does anyone see racism in that clip Zarius posted?

Even if you can produce racist undertones from that clip, subtle racism does not a serious show make.

But wow, this is neither here nor there. All feelings about Saban aside, they made The Next Mutation suck. It was undeniably an awful show, and undeniably produced by Saban. I defy anyone to argue that point.

**Jester** · 02-02-2009, 06:29 PM

*reads Cipher's post.*
Next Mutation....uh huh...Saban...mmm hmmm....

Ok, you're right...I can't argue with you.

jerome · 02-05-2009, 04:56 PM

the one man who can save the ninja turtles is tristan Jones. More issues or an entire series along the same lines of tales #36 would lead to more sales which would lead to a more mature or older audience which would allow for a more mature live-action movie which could then be turned into another really good cartoon like 2k3 originally was. Bada Bing bada boom. Franchise Saved.

ps. there is no redeeming value in anything power rangers. its trash. Even as a 4th grader i could see that. And to think I went through all that trouble to tape the first episode while away at my soccer game...only to be disappointed.

01-31-2009, 09:44 PM	#63
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	Lol, I didn't get to see the vid but I'm sure if it was Power Rangers it was campy. Frantically waving baddies, sparkling battle wounds, characters who have to bounce their heads to make their mouth move...yeah. Poor Turtles, got sucked into the whirlpool of lame during Saban's reign in the late '90's. And to poke fun at Jester's taste in movies, he does freely admit it under his name! But you can't deny that Johnny-5 was awesome! And the last Rambo flick was the best one in the series...he freakin' obliterated a dude into a puddle of guts with a .50 cal machine gun!!! Fave part for me: when he shot the merc through the head with an arrow, classic Rambo right there. To make this Turtle related, imagine the guys in a heated battle with the Foot; they bear down on Mikey, who is lying on the ground; Raph sees what's happening, crushes a soldier's spot between the eyes and back-jabs one under the ribcage. He is clearly in no position to help his brother. He calls out to Leo as he slashes a Foot soldier; he clears through a few more with some awesome swordsmanship, flings some shurikens and takes out a Foot archer on a ledge who is about to shoot off an arrow at Don. Leo picks up the bow and arrow, takes aim at the Foot overlording Mikey and pops one through the chest and another through the head. Last edited by Venom; 01-31-2009 at 09:57 PM.

02-02-2009, 06:29 PM	#71
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	reads Cipher's post. Next Mutation....uh huh...Saban...mmm hmmm.... Ok, you're right...I can't argue with you. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

02-01-2009, 07:25 AM	#66
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	Zarius, just so you know the reason I posted computer Says no before was because the video doesn't work on here.

02-05-2009, 04:56 PM	#72
jerome Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 132	the one man who can save the ninja turtles is tristan Jones. More issues or an entire series along the same lines of tales #36 would lead to more sales which would lead to a more mature or older audience which would allow for a more mature live-action movie which could then be turned into another really good cartoon like 2k3 originally was. Bada Bing bada boom. Franchise Saved. ps. there is no redeeming value in anything power rangers. its trash. Even as a 4th grader i could see that. And to think I went through all that trouble to tape the first episode while away at my soccer game...only to be disappointed.