Watchmen - Page 5

~~Leo656~~ · 03-10-2009, 04:59 PM

Saw Watchmen with my fiancee and we both loved it, though I read the book more than she has. My biggest problem was that tons of subtext and backstory got chopped and that hurt it. I liked the new ending. Anyone having a problem with either the sex scenes or Dr. Manhattan is a bit immature. I figured people not reading the book wouldn't "get" some of it, though, so there ya go.

All the excessive slo-mo and stuff was Snyder's way of poking fun at superhero movie cliches the way the book toyed with comic book boundaries. It's also why Veidt's costume looked like one of Joel Schumacher's abortions.

The soundtrack was fine, it's a period piece and half of the stuff was referenced from the book itself.

I admit it's not an "easy" flick, you gotta do homework to enjoy it fully and I know that's not fashionable. But it's as faithful as any comic adaptation is ever gonna be, and I give 'em credit for that. Now, everyone who hasn't needs to get the book and see what you're missing.

*Hero* · 03-10-2009, 05:04 PM

Went and saw Watchmen yesterday. Really enjoyed it.

===HERO

*cqb101* · 03-10-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

All the excessive slo-mo and stuff was Snyder's way of poking fun at superhero movie cliches the way the book toyed with comic book boundaries.

Then why did Snyder use it so much in 300 as well?

Can you name some of the superhero movies that use slow-mo in the fight scenes, because I honestly can't think of any.

The slow-mo was nothing more than Snyder injecting his style into the film. I found it distracting, out of place, and overly cheesy.

Leogeddon · 03-10-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cqb101

Then why did Snyder use it so much in 300 as well?

Can you name some of the superhero movies that use slow-mo in the fight scenes, because I honestly can't think of any.

The slow-mo was nothing more than Snyder injecting his style into the film. I found it distracting, out of place, and overly cheesy.

Spider-man 3 and Transformers did it.

*Hannah* · 03-10-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leogeddon

Spider-man 3 and Transformers did it.

And both of those movies turned out terrible.

*The Stryker* · 03-10-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Watchmen wasnt meant to be a popcorn movie

Oh right, because actually enjoying a movie means I completely missed the point. How could I forget that?.

Ra · 03-10-2009, 07:31 PM

Saw Watchmen yesterday. Great adaptation of the comic, but as an overall movie... well, I was a bit confused towards the end. Still didn't stop it from entertaining me however.

Rorschach = <3

*cqb101* · 03-11-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Leogeddon

Spider-man 3 and Transformers did it.

All of Michael Bay's films have slow-mo. It's what he does.

Blade Raider · 03-11-2009, 01:01 AM

Saw Watchmen tonight...One of the few things I liked about this movie was...

(If ya don't get it, Garry Chalk, the voice of Optimus Primal, was one of Nixon's generals)

I had a gut feeling left over from 300 that I would not like this movie and I was right. I'm never watching a Zack Snyder movie again. The story is good and well written (same with 300), but the action was a little to gory and way to much sex and nudity for my tastes (though the flamethrower was hilarious). Also, the plot felt like it was going nowhere at times. The biggest reason I didn't like it was because I don't like movies that at the end all I can think is "I'm having nightmares tonight"

In addition, this movie ruins all these things for me:
owls
heroes with past
midgets
the song "Hallelujah"
butts
ink blots
super heroes
the color blue
my eyes

I'm mostly joking on that list, but goddamn, MY EYES!

Good news though, I'm perfectly okay with He-Man only wearing only a loincloth now.

*gobo* · 03-11-2009, 01:44 AM

Haven't seen Watchmen yet, but losing interest with every repeated post about it. It feels like LotR-craze all over again. -_- I can only hope people start turning their noses up at me for not wanting to see it...

*The Stryker* · 03-11-2009, 02:22 AM

Is penis really that big of a deal? I mean seriously, some people need to grow up already.

Ra · 03-11-2009, 03:10 AM

The penis... ah yes. "Limpy".

I was fine with it. At times you could hardly see Limpy because of Manhatten's glowing body (when he first materialises in front of his girlfriend for the first time, for example). The movie has it's suss moments and sex scenes and what-not, so seeing a limp glowing CGI dong doesn't really make that much of an impression on you once you come out of the cinema.

Basically, if you want to see it, you can stare at Limpy for a good hour or so. Otherwise sit back an enjoy the goddamn movie. In my opinion? Yes it was funny for the first time you see it, but other than that you tend to forget about it. Well, I did anyway.

Blade Raider · 03-11-2009, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

Is penis really that big of a deal? I mean seriously, some people need to grow up already.

No, it is. It's just excessive amouts on it. Plus, there's many scenes where just changing the angle a bit would have cropped his junk out.

Now, I'm pevert. I don't care who knows it (aside from my grandparents, of course), but I don't like nor want sex scenes in my movies or excessive nudity. Sex never add to the story and I'm usually sitting there waiting for the damn story to continue. Plus, it's usually the characters I don't want to see naked much less having sex. As for whatever the blue guy's name is, as I've already said, it's excessive. He's naked 90% of the time his in the movie. I don't mind scenes where he's naked, but enough is enough after so long.

Aside from all of that, I'm still left left wondering what the hell that tiger was, what's the main villian power, and what's up with the ink blot dude's mask.

*The Stryker* · 03-11-2009, 03:55 AM

Obviously you didn't realize that the sex scene and Manhattan being naked meant something to the character's arcs and actually pushed their stories along.

*Ninjinister* · 03-11-2009, 08:32 AM

I'm taking a guess that you, Blade, have not read the book yet.

And it sounds like the movie doesn't explain a lot that it should have, and that you have to read the graphic novel to know wtf is going on.

*The Stryker* · 03-11-2009, 08:52 AM

I think the movie was already crammed with stuff. The last thing it needed piled on top was a origin story for Bubastis.

*Ninjinister* · 03-11-2009, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

I think the movie was already crammed with stuff. The last thing it needed piled on top was a origin story for Bubastis.

I've not seen the film yet (planning to this weekend), but wouldn't it have been simpler to just cut Bubastis? It's not like she had a large part in the story, especially since it seems that they cut out Adrian's genetic tinkering.

*The Stryker* · 03-11-2009, 09:00 AM

Yeah but then the hardcore fans would've complained about it being cut.

*Ninjinister* · 03-11-2009, 09:09 AM

I always forget about the hardcores.

*The Stryker* · 03-11-2009, 09:20 AM

The movie was doomed from the beginning to be in one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations.

Hey, if the movie makes people want to read the book, good!

03-10-2009, 05:04 PM	#82
Hero British Bloke Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,298	Went and saw Watchmen yesterday. Really enjoyed it. ===HERO __________________ Go Green Machine My Facebook -My Tumblr - My Art - Figured 0ut - My Awesome Instagram

03-10-2009, 07:31 PM	#87
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	Saw Watchmen yesterday. Great adaptation of the comic, but as an overall movie... well, I was a bit confused towards the end. Still didn't stop it from entertaining me however. Rorschach = <3 __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

03-11-2009, 01:01 AM	#89
Blade Raider Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,221	Saw Watchmen tonight...One of the few things I liked about this movie was... (If ya don't get it, Garry Chalk, the voice of Optimus Primal, was one of Nixon's generals) I had a gut feeling left over from 300 that I would not like this movie and I was right. I'm never watching a Zack Snyder movie again. The story is good and well written (same with 300), but the action was a little to gory and way to much sex and nudity for my tastes (though the flamethrower was hilarious). Also, the plot felt like it was going nowhere at times. The biggest reason I didn't like it was because I don't like movies that at the end all I can think is "I'm having nightmares tonight" In addition, this movie ruins all these things for me: owls heroes with past midgets the song "Hallelujah" butts ink blots super heroes the color blue my eyes I'm mostly joking on that list, but goddamn, MY EYES! Good news though, I'm perfectly okay with He-Man only wearing only a loincloth now. __________________

03-11-2009, 01:44 AM	#90
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Haven't seen Watchmen yet, but losing interest with every repeated post about it. It feels like LotR-craze all over again. -_- I can only hope people start turning their noses up at me for not wanting to see it... __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

03-11-2009, 02:22 AM	#91
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Is penis really that big of a deal? I mean seriously, some people need to grow up already. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

03-10-2009, 04:59 PM	#81
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Saw Watchmen with my fiancee and we both loved it, though I read the book more than she has. My biggest problem was that tons of subtext and backstory got chopped and that hurt it. I liked the new ending. Anyone having a problem with either the sex scenes or Dr. Manhattan is a bit immature. I figured people not reading the book wouldn't "get" some of it, though, so there ya go. All the excessive slo-mo and stuff was Snyder's way of poking fun at superhero movie cliches the way the book toyed with comic book boundaries. It's also why Veidt's costume looked like one of Joel Schumacher's abortions. The soundtrack was fine, it's a period piece and half of the stuff was referenced from the book itself. I admit it's not an "easy" flick, you gotta do homework to enjoy it fully and I know that's not fashionable. But it's as faithful as any comic adaptation is ever gonna be, and I give 'em credit for that. Now, everyone who hasn't needs to get the book and see what you're missing.

03-11-2009, 03:10 AM	#92
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	The penis... ah yes. "Limpy". I was fine with it. At times you could hardly see Limpy because of Manhatten's glowing body (when he first materialises in front of his girlfriend for the first time, for example). The movie has it's suss moments and sex scenes and what-not, so seeing a limp glowing CGI dong doesn't really make that much of an impression on you once you come out of the cinema. Basically, if you want to see it, you can stare at Limpy for a good hour or so. Otherwise sit back an enjoy the goddamn movie. In my opinion? Yes it was funny for the first time you see it, but other than that you tend to forget about it. Well, I did anyway. __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

03-11-2009, 03:55 AM	#94
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Obviously you didn't realize that the sex scene and Manhattan being naked meant something to the character's arcs and actually pushed their stories along. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

03-11-2009, 08:32 AM	#95
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	I'm taking a guess that you, Blade, have not read the book yet. And it sounds like the movie doesn't explain a lot that it should have, and that you have to read the graphic novel to know wtf is going on. __________________

03-11-2009, 08:52 AM	#96
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	I think the movie was already crammed with stuff. The last thing it needed piled on top was a origin story for Bubastis. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

03-11-2009, 09:00 AM	#98
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Yeah but then the hardcore fans would've complained about it being cut. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

03-11-2009, 09:09 AM	#99
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	I always forget about the hardcores. __________________

03-11-2009, 09:20 AM	#100
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	The movie was doomed from the beginning to be in one of those "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situations. Hey, if the movie makes people want to read the book, good! __________________ @~<3 Mom~@