Anti-TMNT books from Phil Phillips and Joan Hake Robie - Page 3

*Spitfire* · 06-01-2009, 02:00 PM

The stuff people like that say effect me abut as much as the crazy homeless people who yell at me on a daily basis. It's good for a laugh but it serves no other purpose. Unless you already believe cartoons are the spawn of Satan no ones gonna be pulled the other way by those books.

Interesting though.

Blade Raider · 06-01-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

No, Star Trek and Flash Gordon won't make a kid question the difference between reality and fiction, but it does inspire them to investigate the thoughts of time travel, space travel, and other fields that may or may not put the question of a higher power to rest, and some sectors are afraid of that happening.

I see nothing wrong with that.

Type 97 Chi-ha · 06-01-2009, 02:06 PM

There are undoubtedly people who say such things about Barney the Dinosaur too. Although that idea isn't necessarily crazy...

06-01-2009, 03:26 PM

Wow, the stuff on the link is just too silly to be taken serious.

I know not all Christians, Muslims, and other patriarchy-religion believers are crazy.., But how did the crazy ones get so.. crazy?

Blade Raider · 06-01-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

Wow, the stuff on the link is just too silly to be taken serious.

I know not all Christians, Muslims, and other patriarchy-religion believers are crazy.., But how did the crazy ones get so.. crazy?

Their moms didn't let them go to the movies every once in a while when they were kids

*XERO* · 06-01-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

I know not all Christians, Muslims, and other patriarchy-religion believers are crazy.., But how did the crazy ones get so.. crazy?

Because... well, they're crazy.

*Spitfire* · 06-02-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

I know not all Christians, Muslims, and other patriarchy-religion believers are crazy.., But how did the crazy ones get so.. crazy?

Over analyzing something written thousands of years ago will drive anyone insane.

Blade Raider · 06-02-2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

Over analyzing something written thousands of years ago will drive anyone insane.

Analyzing anything to much can drive a person insane. Of course, a lot of these people don't know what their talking about to begin with.

~~Dan~~ · 06-02-2009, 04:30 AM

Don't the Turtles celebrate christmas?

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-02-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa

too obvious
they created Christian heavy metal to counter it

I added hard rock and heavy metal, it must have been a mistake because I had it in my mind when creating this. Hard rock and heavy metal was considered "dangerous" by Christians back in the 1980's.

kev trashcan · 06-02-2009, 12:17 PM

and religion isnt mind control?, these over religious kooks are funny. everything is selling ideas one way or another and people will soak up and or belive in what they want to belive in or not, and should have that right. im tired of these people and other treating the genral public like little kids that are lost without their help...

*Whitewolf89* · 06-02-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

Wow, the stuff on the link is just too silly to be taken serious.

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by Ryona

I know not all Christians, Muslims, and other patriarchy-religion believers are crazy.., But how did the crazy ones get so.. crazy?

THAT, dear friend, is something that even I have never figured out.

Although several others here have posted some every...INTERESTING...ideas.

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Originally Posted by Dan

Don't the Turtles celebrate christmas?

According to BOTH the Mirage comics (AND, ITHINK, the Archie ones), AND the 2K3 TMNT series, yes.

*Candy Kappa* · 06-03-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

But how did the crazy ones get so.. crazy?

to quote a certain cat "I am Crazy, you are Crazy, We all are Crazy here"

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Originally Posted by Dan

Don't the Turtles celebrate christmas?

sure they do, just as sure as the Vikings had "Christmas" (Yule) long before Christianity ravaged the Viking lands

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-04-2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kev trashcan

and religion isnt mind control, these over religious kooks are funny. everything is selling ideas one way or another and people will soak up and or belive in what they want to belive in or not, and should have that right. im tired of these people and other treating the genral public like little kids that are lost without their help...

State-operated religion may work as mind control in dictatorship states.

*Spike Spiegel* · 06-04-2009, 11:55 AM

I would say I had a good laugh seeing this...but that would be lying.

I was watching the video...and I have actually grown up in one of these sorts of environments. My mother never let me watch MMPR or Pokemon, among other shows...and I was screwed up by this in a way. Stuff like TMNT is not bad!! I learned so many good moral lessons from TMNT, Gargoyles, Batman TAS, etc. I do, however, think that some cartoons do have occult influences. I don't personally watch cartoons like the Scooby-Doo one they showed.

But I guess when I played with my Batman figures as a lad, I was "projecting myself" into it, right?

Sometimes I hate all of the man-made stuff in Christianity. I just want to follow the Bible. Eastern religion, etc. is somewhat evident in TMNT, but I know how to look at it as allegory and not reality...those fanatics sound like my mother. Seeing such paranoia and stupidity reminded me how flawed humanity can truly be...and all the things I hated about my childhood.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-05-2009, 06:20 AM

Everyone has the right to believe what he/she wants. We will never know if any God exists. But when it comes to parents almost brainwashing their children into believing, something is wrong? It's not only religion, even politics may be used that way.

METALHEAD · 06-05-2009, 10:05 PM

i'm catholic myself, sometimes thosetypes of people take far too seriously. ---This reminds me of the famous book SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT where a crazy german almost destroyed the comic book companies during the golden age of comics behold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_of_the_Innocent for this i will always see Fredric Wertham as the world's greatest monster (next to hitler, and sadame, and bin laden)

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-06-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by METALHEAD

i'm catholic myself, sometimes thosetypes of people take far too seriously. ---This reminds me of the famous book SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT where a crazy german almost destroyed the comic book companies during the golden age of comics behold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_of_the_Innocent for this i will always see Fredric Wertham as the world's greatest monster (next to hitler, and sadame, and bin laden)

There was a witch-hunt on comic books back in the 1950's and 1960's.

*BigApple3AM* · 06-06-2009, 04:04 AM

Fun article Jester. Just one thing, at the end you claim Raph says "bitchin'" in the movie. Are you talking about at the end? Because I'm pretty sure he's saying legit, it was the times man.

Anyway, I don't get worked up about these things because I'm fairly certain they're only doing it for money. C'mon, they publish a book which barely any content and a sweet TMNT cover for no other reason than to make a buck. If they really hated the TMNT they'd be out picketing at the tour bus stops or something.

Besides these days there's so much awful **** for kids to see on the TV that I can't see how anyone can pick on the cartoons seriously. Heck even the kids shows like Hannah Montana have more control and psychological issues on kid's brains that any 80's cartoon can dream of having.

*Candy Kappa* · 06-06-2009, 04:32 AM

nothing is more evil than the hell spawn of all wickedness, the Teletubbies

06-01-2009, 02:00 PM	#41
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06-01-2009, 03:26 PM	#44
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	Wow, the stuff on the link is just too silly to be taken serious. I know not all Christians, Muslims, and other patriarchy-religion believers are crazy.., But how did the crazy ones get so.. crazy? Last edited by Ryona; 06-01-2009 at 03:36 PM.

06-02-2009, 12:17 PM	#51
kev trashcan Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: sf east bay california Posts: 265	and religion isnt mind control?, these over religious kooks are funny. everything is selling ideas one way or another and people will soak up and or belive in what they want to belive in or not, and should have that right. im tired of these people and other treating the genral public like little kids that are lost without their help... __________________ check out my art http://kcmp-sewer-sludge.deviantart.com/ Last edited by kev trashcan; 06-04-2009 at 08:01 PM.

06-05-2009, 06:20 AM	#56
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Politics Everyone has the right to believe what he/she wants. We will never know if any God exists. But when it comes to parents almost brainwashing their children into believing, something is wrong? It's not only religion, even politics may be used that way.

06-05-2009, 10:05 PM	#57
METALHEAD Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: san benito texas Posts: 734	i'm catholic myself, sometimes thosetypes of people take far too seriously. ---This reminds me of the famous book SEDUCTION OF THE INNOCENT where a crazy german almost destroyed the comic book companies during the golden age of comics behold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_of_the_Innocent for this i will always see Fredric Wertham as the world's greatest monster (next to hitler, and sadame, and bin laden) __________________ i ship it.

06-01-2009, 02:06 PM	#43
Type 97 Chi-ha Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brookfield, IL Posts: 1,333	There are undoubtedly people who say such things about Barney the Dinosaur too. Although that idea isn't necessarily crazy...

06-02-2009, 04:30 AM	#49
~~Dan~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 296	Don't the Turtles celebrate christmas?

06-06-2009, 04:04 AM	#59
BigApple3AM Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Supermarket Aisle Posts: 1,635	Fun article Jester. Just one thing, at the end you claim Raph says "bitchin'" in the movie. Are you talking about at the end? Because I'm pretty sure he's saying legit, it was the times man. Anyway, I don't get worked up about these things because I'm fairly certain they're only doing it for money. C'mon, they publish a book which barely any content and a sweet TMNT cover for no other reason than to make a buck. If they really hated the TMNT they'd be out picketing at the tour bus stops or something. Besides these days there's so much awful **** for kids to see on the TV that I can't see how anyone can pick on the cartoons seriously. Heck even the kids shows like Hannah Montana have more control and psychological issues on kid's brains that any 80's cartoon can dream of having.

06-06-2009, 04:32 AM	#60
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