Steve Murphy on "The Forever War"

[BoggleKng]

I am lost... just tell me when it comes out..

[traf]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

More from Steve.

My second question:

That's terrible news. What has been the challenges in getting it made?

His second answer:

Too many to mention. Writer (me) missing a few deadlines. Artist is no longer a full-time artist, so making time to draw after a full-time day job and two kids to raise has been difficult. And now Mirage no longer owns the TMNT and our comic book rights may not extend outside the "Mirage universe."

HA! I was right. Wish I wasn't though.

[darthsmozers]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. Why would Mirage be prevented from releasing comics outside the "Mirage universe?"

Does Nick even know what the hell is part of the Mirage universe or not? If Mirage decided to re-print some old Image issues, would they be stopped from doing that?

If a company like Nick were going to acquire the rights to a property, you can likely bet they did their homework on the history of the TMNT, including past incarnations, current contracts, and future (or in-progress) projects. Its a pretty basic part of the business.

[Kendamu]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Well there's always hope that Archie does it... or maybe even IDW (who are producing several Archie TPB's in 2010)... Who knows... I just hope that SOMEDAY it'll be released.

Is there any word on which parts of the series will be produced in TPB?

[DK2]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

Is there any word on which parts of the series will be produced in TPB?

IDW has a deal to make Archie reprints of Archie comics stuff (their old, old stuff from 1940's onward) if I'm not mistaken, not TMNTA. I think Raph's Girl meant the potential connection of IDW and Archie comics (and IDW's with Paramount/Nicko on Star Trek, Transformers & GI Joe movies) could lead to such possible reprints of the Archie TMNTA stuff. I can't see Archie having the rights to still do TMNTA reprints after the TMNT ownership change until they get the license/rights from Nicko to do such stuff.

[raphaelprime]

Originally Posted by traf

I doubt any issues of Volume 4 come out next year. Peter Laird said he was going to step away for awhile before deciding whether or not to continue with Vol. 4.

He did say that, but(and i doubt this'll actually happen) there is a possibility of one Vol. 4 issue next year. From what i recall Peter and Jim were about half way done or so i think on the next issue, he made mention of it on his blog few months back. But how much got done, theres no clue, if anything else needs to be written by Laird for it, then i doubt it would, but if all that really needs to be done is Jim and Eric's work(And Mike's cover) then i would says it possible, very slim, but plausible.

As for Forever War, i hope they do(and can) go on with it. But this long after i won't be too disappointed if they don't, have had time since the original tease and all for my excitement on it to drop slightly. Will still suck though, but atleast the long delay will give a shrug and "eh, what can you do"

[Kendamu]

Originally Posted by DK2

IDW has a deal to make Archie reprints of Archie comics stuff (their old, old stuff from 1940's onward) if I'm not mistaken, not TMNTA. I think Raph's Girl meant the potential connection of IDW and Archie comics (and IDW's with Paramount/Nicko on Star Trek, Transformers & GI Joe movies) could lead to such possible reprints of the Archie TMNTA stuff. I can't see Archie having the rights to still do TMNTA reprints after the TMNT ownership change until they get the license/rights from Nicko to do such stuff.

Oh, I see. I thought by "Archie TPBs" it was in the context of "TMNTA TPBs." Well, I guess I'll still have to hunt down issues of the series.

[Andrew NDB]

My biggest thing is... virtually none of the 25th anniversary things related to the comic books -- the only part of the franchise that is actually celebrating 25 years this year -- that were promised have been delivered on.

It's just been one great big sloppy, cross-country blow*** for the original cartoon... which Laird doesn't even like. It's puzzling, really.

[Kendamu]

We did get that Vol. 1 TPB, but besides the Forever War I forgot what exactly was promised i nthe first place.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

We did get that Vol. 1 TPB, but besides the Forever War I forgot what exactly was promised i nthe first place.

The TMNT Universe book also. And while it wasn't exactly promised, there was the Imagi direct-to-DVD, panel-for-panel adaption of TMNT Vol. 1 #1 that Gary talked Peter into abandoning altogether in favor of "Turtles Forever" (which, though it does include a minor nod to the Mirage TMNT, is 95% a Fred Wolf/4Kids appreciation film).

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

We did get that Vol. 1 TPB, but besides the Forever War I forgot what exactly was promised i nthe first place.

Not much of anything was promised, really. A lot of hype for a lot of nothing.

And people got all mad at me for being "negative" by calling 'em out on it.

As for why we only saw (a bad reflection of) the old cartoon and not comic book stuff, I'd guess the most simple answer is money.

[Kendamu]

Well, Rose, you did kinda come off at the time as, "The Turtles are dead! F*cking dead!!!! They will not survive the year and we'll never see anything out of them again!!! F*cking dead!!!!" So, of course people are gonna get all mad at you.

Gary talked Peter into abandoning that project? I thought it was some sort of money issue... But if they were able to produce Turtles Forever then I guess they did have the money for it.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

Gary talked Peter into abandoning that project?

Yep. The deal was in place, Peter was ponying up the money from his own pocket.

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

Well, Rose, you did kinda come off at the time as, "The Turtles are dead! F*cking dead!!!! They will not survive the year and we'll never see anything out of them again!!! F*cking dead!!!!" So, of course people are gonna get all mad at you.

Alas, I was never trying to be extreme, just realistic.

[Kendamu]

I wasn't being literal, Rose. That's just me balling all the instances of doom and gloom up into one sentence as kind of a joke. It's not like you were the only one running around with "The end is nigh!" signs waiting for nightfall so you could go pull your black-and-white face mask out of a pile of garbage and then go break into your friend's house and eat his beans.

Wait. What was I talking about again?

Oh, right! Well, that whole thing about the Vol. 1 #1 becoming Turtles Forever and then Turtles Forever turning into something that's eluding us even after completion just kinda pisses me off now!

[Andrew NDB]

I remember when I had the "doom and gloom" crown when the fourth movie dropped and I was the only one here saying it was crap.

Ah, the good 'ole days.

[CyberCubed]

Well they are re-releasing issue #1 for the billionth time in full color in November. I assume that's still coming.

[Kendamu]

If it weren't for the bookplate from P2P that's coming with the full-color, I probably wouldn't have gotten it considering how many copies of #1 there are around my apartment.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

We did get that Vol. 1 TPB

The exact same one that's been printed 3 times before. If they wanted to do something cool they'd have collected other issues that fans have been begging for in a trade.

Hmm I wonder what story arc is one of the most important in the turtles history and spans enough issues to warrant a big trade paper back?

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

besides the Forever War I forgot what exactly was promised i nthe first place.

Well the Forever War got sliced up. Aside from us never getting it, it was originally planned to be 5 issues and Murph decided to only do 3. If I remember correctly it was supposed to be out at the end of the year. Let's not forget the Mirage figures. We might still be getting the turtles but the rest are canceled. Also the second wave of NECA figures got canned. Andrew pretty much nailed the rest of the stuff. Kinda sad really. The whole reason turtles is 25 gets shoved aside.

[Kendamu]

Yeah... Still never got that CaW trade. S'the only thing I regret.

Well, I wanted Wave 2 of NECA also, but apparently they don't have the money for that... even though they have the money for those weird little things and those bobble heads.