David Wise Leaves Rare

**ThirdMarioBro** · 12-11-2009, 01:44 PM

http://www.dkvine.com/?p=778

I can probably count the people who would give a damn about this one one hand, but the title speaks for itself. Its terribly sad to me as probably one of the few Rare fans left on the planet. This is a devastating loss for them, and probably comes as a direct result of Microsoft completely refocusing the company on casual Natal software to the point that they cancel all their "real" games. So as a (now) fading Rare fan, I'm devastated.

Now, as a fan of David Wise personally, I'm glad he finally left. Rare hasn't used his music in a single console game this decade (Starfox Adventures doesn't count as it was a completed/ported up N64 soundtrack). They just don't give him work anymore (they've canceled most of the games he was working on), and he's still to this day tied with Koji for my favorite VGM composer. I hope he goes freelance and gets a sh*t-ton of work.

*XERO* · 12-11-2009, 02:12 PM

Rare was holding him back big time since they went Microsoft.

I say he comes back to Nintendo. Just sayin'.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 12-11-2009, 05:36 PM

I hope not. Outside of Japan, Nintendo is in as bad of shape as Rare when it comes to creative projects that require five star soundtracks. If he goes freelance he can work for whoever he wants, including Nintendo.

I should also mention that (the awesome) Steve Burke left a while ago as well. Just thought Dave was more worth mentioning because he was one of the three original Rare employees alongside the Stampers. I think this is pretty much the end of the line for them. Frankly, I wish Robin and Eveline would leave too.

*XERO* · 12-13-2009, 02:04 AM

It'd be crazy if they replaced him with Yuzo Koshiro.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 12-13-2009, 02:08 AM

One of the rumors I'm hearing is that Dave left because Tim Stamper is starting a new studio (since M$ has wrecked Rare like almost every other damn third party dev they bought in the last ten years). Greg Mayles may actually not be far behind Dave.

Also, did you know that Wise, Kirkhope, and Beanland did a track together for the new OC Remix DKC2 album?

*XERO* · 12-13-2009, 02:13 AM

That's rawesome, noting the fact that Dave is a big fan of the site. And you know what's funny? I actually plowed through DKC2 not too long ago and fell in love once again.

Dejablue · 12-13-2009, 02:23 AM

Rare is doomed. It already takes them an eternity to produce a game. And now a days its extremely hit or miss. And now they loose one of their core players. Pfft they might as well just not exsist. Rare. Why the heck did you go to Microsoft? Why?

*XERO* · 12-13-2009, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dejablue

Rare. Why the heck did you go to Microsoft? Why?

More money would be the logical deduction.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 12-13-2009, 04:26 AM

The Microsoft Effect - Buy studio, destroy culture, assimilate IP, close studio, farm IP to new studio founded by ex-employees. Case and point...

Carbonated Games - kaput

Ensemble Games - Made sh*t-tons of money, got shut down anyway

Bungie - Ran like hell before it was too late

Indie Built - DEAD

FASA Studio - Microsoft destroyed their culture

Wingnut Interactive - Basically DEAD

Mistwalker - Getting Close

Xbox Live Productions - Pretty much doomed

Rare - Approaching the final countdown

Bizarre Creations - Not happy with PGR4 release, relationship gone sour

If Microsoft had their way, first party games would no longer exist.

12-11-2009, 01:44 PM	#1
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	David Wise Leaves Rare http://www.dkvine.com/?p=778 I can probably count the people who would give a damn about this one one hand, but the title speaks for itself. Its terribly sad to me as probably one of the few Rare fans left on the planet. This is a devastating loss for them, and probably comes as a direct result of Microsoft completely refocusing the company on casual Natal software to the point that they cancel all their "real" games. So as a (now) fading Rare fan, I'm devastated. Now, as a fan of David Wise personally, I'm glad he finally left. Rare hasn't used his music in a single console game this decade (Starfox Adventures doesn't count as it was a completed/ported up N64 soundtrack). They just don't give him work anymore (they've canceled most of the games he was working on), and he's still to this day tied with Koji for my favorite VGM composer. I hope he goes freelance and gets a sht-ton of work. __________________ Last edited by ThirdMarioBro; 12-11-2009 at 01:59 PM.*

12-11-2009, 02:12 PM	#2
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Rare was holding him back big time since they went Microsoft. I say he comes back to Nintendo. Just sayin'. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

12-11-2009, 05:36 PM	#3
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	I hope not. Outside of Japan, Nintendo is in as bad of shape as Rare when it comes to creative projects that require five star soundtracks. If he goes freelance he can work for whoever he wants, including Nintendo. I should also mention that (the awesome) Steve Burke left a while ago as well. Just thought Dave was more worth mentioning because he was one of the three original Rare employees alongside the Stampers. I think this is pretty much the end of the line for them. Frankly, I wish Robin and Eveline would leave too. __________________ Last edited by ThirdMarioBro; 12-11-2009 at 06:29 PM.

12-13-2009, 02:04 AM	#4
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	It'd be crazy if they replaced him with Yuzo Koshiro. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

12-13-2009, 02:08 AM	#5
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	One of the rumors I'm hearing is that Dave left because Tim Stamper is starting a new studio (since M$ has wrecked Rare like almost every other damn third party dev they bought in the last ten years). Greg Mayles may actually not be far behind Dave. Also, did you know that Wise, Kirkhope, and Beanland did a track together for the new OC Remix DKC2 album? __________________

12-13-2009, 02:13 AM	#6
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	That's rawesome, noting the fact that Dave is a big fan of the site. And you know what's funny? I actually plowed through DKC2 not too long ago and fell in love once again. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!" Last edited by XERO; 12-13-2009 at 09:50 AM.

12-13-2009, 02:23 AM	#7
Dejablue Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In the USA Posts: 637	Rare is doomed. It already takes them an eternity to produce a game. And now a days its extremely hit or miss. And now they loose one of their core players. Pfft they might as well just not exsist. Rare. Why the heck did you go to Microsoft? Why?

12-13-2009, 04:26 AM	#9
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	The Microsoft Effect - Buy studio, destroy culture, assimilate IP, close studio, farm IP to new studio founded by ex-employees. Case and point... Carbonated Games - kaput Ensemble Games - Made sh*t-tons of money, got shut down anyway Bungie - Ran like hell before it was too late Indie Built - DEAD FASA Studio - Microsoft destroyed their culture Wingnut Interactive - Basically DEAD Mistwalker - Getting Close Xbox Live Productions - Pretty much doomed Rare - Approaching the final countdown Bizarre Creations - Not happy with PGR4 release, relationship gone sour If Microsoft had their way, first party games would no longer exist. __________________