Give Don some love

ooglafina · 01-24-2010, 12:17 PM

Is it just me or are most of the comments made about him consist of the fact that he's physically the weakest and that Splinter ignores him and stuff like that. We all know he's smart, but there's got to be more to him than that. Give him some love.

*CyberCubed* · 01-24-2010, 12:18 PM

In every series Donatello always gets a huge role. He's certainly not ignored by any of the various TMNT writers.

*Revan* · 01-24-2010, 12:23 PM

One could argue that Don is the most useful turtle. I'm a raph fan myself but without Don, the guys would have had a difficult time accomplishing anything no matter which medium you look at.

As for the physically weak comment. I can see why you may think that but its more a guile than a cold hard fact. I think audiences tend to equate intelligence with physical weakness. You could say that Don is the most complete turtle because he is both smart, and physically strong.

ooglafina · 01-24-2010, 12:59 PM

Yeah, Raph's kind of my favorite, but I do have a soft spot for Don. I know he's a major part in the writing and everything, but I feel like he's taken for granted sometimes because he's perceived to be the one who has it the most together. I thought he deserved some recognition for that.

And I totally agree about the idea that intelligence is equated with physical weakness sometimes.

*discordiatookie* · 01-24-2010, 02:24 PM

Donatello's my favourite turtle. When you say "the one who has it most together" I have to disagree. I find there to be something quite dark in Don, be it him clipping fur off of Splinter at Splinter's funeral, or him keeping Stockman alive for years on end in the turtles' old lair (both vol 4).

One of my favourite moments of Don's is in vol4#1, where he rips up a TV antenna and uses it to dislodge a nut coming towards him on a snowmobile. I found that to be Don all over - using minimum amount of effort for maximum effect, thinking things through and taking the logical step - and then a page later he's joyriding on a snowmobile, tearing it up through the sewers.

He's the turtle with the bag of tricks, the tech head, and can kick ass with merely a stick. I love him for that.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 01-24-2010, 02:35 PM

I agree with ^^

Seriously, I've never thought of Don as being any weaker than any of the others physically.

ooglafina · 01-24-2010, 03:07 PM

I just said that because I vaguely remember somebody saying that he ranked last in strength in an RPG or something.

*Revan* · 01-24-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oroku_CJJ

I agree with ^^

Seriously, I've never thought of Don as being any weaker than any of the others physically.

I think it is more from a fighting stance. That's what I have observed many fans expressing anyway. The 2k3 series is one example. I remember discussions on this board where some have conveyed their feelings that Don is the least skilled in ninjitsu. Often needing help in a fight and what not.

*Samhain* · 01-24-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by discordiatookie

Donatello's my favourite turtle. When you say "the one who has it most together" I have to disagree. I find there to be something quite dark in Don, be it him clipping fur off of Splinter at Splinter's funeral, or him keeping Stockman alive for years on end in the turtles' old lair (both vol 4).

One of my favourite moments of Don's is in vol4#1, where he rips up a TV antenna and uses it to dislodge a nut coming towards him on a snowmobile. I found that to be Don all over - using minimum amount of effort for maximum effect, thinking things through and taking the logical step - and then a page later he's joyriding on a snowmobile, tearing it up through the sewers.

He's the turtle with the bag of tricks, the tech head, and can kick ass with merely a stick. I love him for that.

Agree. Love Donny. The badass with a stick.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 01-24-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ooglafina

I just said that because I vaguely remember somebody saying that he ranked last in strength in an RPG or something.

Interesting...

*gobo* · 01-24-2010, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ooglafina

Is it just me or are most of the comments made about him consist of the fact that he's physically the weakest and that Splinter ignores him and stuff like that. We all know he's smart, but there's got to be more to him than that. Give him some love.

What I want to say is, "yes, it's just you". But, since I appear to be the only one who thinks this came straight outta left field... I guess then it's not just you. Still, it is reasonable that he be physically weakest of the group since his weapon is the one with the simplest operating instructions. Not "weak". Just "weakest". Someone has to be, and Don has enough other special qualities.

*Scandia* · 01-24-2010, 06:19 PM

I do not see anything maladaptive about Donnie clipping off a bit of Splinter's fur. I think he wanted to analyze the mutagen's effects more closely.

I do think of Donnie as one of the more stable and less limbic Turtles.

He does fly under Splinter's radar since he is quiet and well-behaved. But in no way is he less important than his brothers.

I do not think he is the least skilled in Ninjitsu. He passed to the Chu'unin level without problems. He may not get to show off his skills all that much, but that does not make him the least skilled. It would have been an interesting twist if Donnie was the one who would not graduate, but that would have been highly improbable.

I wonder which martial art style does Donnie enjoy the most.

Sword Slicin' Leo · 01-24-2010, 06:53 PM

---He was always the most popular turtle on video games (his reach with Bo)

---And he is only turtle to get major star to voice in tmnt movie's (corey feldman)

*Revan* · 01-24-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LeonardoFan1982

---He was always the most popular turtle on video games (his reach with Bo)

stupid glitch mistake

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Originally Posted by LeonardoFan1982

---And he is only turtle to get major star to voice in tmnt movie's (corey feldman)

an even worse mistake

*Cipher* · 01-24-2010, 07:59 PM

It's because people have only seen the 4Kids cartoon and Imagi movie, and therefore love to wank over him as the sensitive Turtle that understands their shy nerdiness and unathleticism, blah blah blah, bullied in school, etc.

And so, for the second time since joining, I make the statement: fans are retarded.

Donatello is bad-ass in every version except the two mentioned above. And occasionally terrifying in the Mirage version.

ooglafina · 01-24-2010, 08:54 PM

He's the guy who break's Shredder's neck in the first issue right.

*Koi* · 01-24-2010, 08:59 PM

As Dark Don in the old cartoon he basically took down the shredder himself.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 01-24-2010, 09:03 PM

You mean he took on Shredder all by himself in the old cartoon as The Dark Turtle.

He wasn't exactly himself in that episode...or was he?

*Koi* · 01-24-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Oroku_CJJ

You mean he took on Shredder all by himself in the old cartoon as The Dark Turtle.

Yes, that is what I mean.

*Cipher* · 01-24-2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ooglafina

He's the guy who break's Shredder's neck in the first issue right.

He kills Shredder. He throws a goddamn bo staff through his cheek.

Why? Because "f*ck yeah!", that's why.

01-24-2010, 12:23 PM	#3
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	One could argue that Don is the most useful turtle. I'm a raph fan myself but without Don, the guys would have had a difficult time accomplishing anything no matter which medium you look at. As for the physically weak comment. I can see why you may think that but its more a guile than a cold hard fact. I think audiences tend to equate intelligence with physical weakness. You could say that Don is the most complete turtle because he is both smart, and physically strong. __________________

01-24-2010, 12:59 PM	#4
ooglafina Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Olaf, Minnesota Posts: 413	Yeah, Raph's kind of my favorite, but I do have a soft spot for Don. I know he's a major part in the writing and everything, but I feel like he's taken for granted sometimes because he's perceived to be the one who has it the most together. I thought he deserved some recognition for that. And I totally agree about the idea that intelligence is equated with physical weakness sometimes. __________________ "You look sharper than a page of Oscar Wilde's witticisms that have been rolled to a point, sprinkled with lemon juice and jabbed into someone's eye" - Ace Rimmer http://www.fanfiction.net/~connienervegas http://pizzas-scrolls.be/viewuser.php?uid=76 http://www.5wwwww5.com/forum/viewfor...tealthystories

01-24-2010, 02:24 PM	#5
discordiatookie facehugger Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 2,817	Donatello's my favourite turtle. When you say "the one who has it most together" I have to disagree. I find there to be something quite dark in Don, be it him clipping fur off of Splinter at Splinter's funeral, or him keeping Stockman alive for years on end in the turtles' old lair (both vol 4). One of my favourite moments of Don's is in vol4#1, where he rips up a TV antenna and uses it to dislodge a nut coming towards him on a snowmobile. I found that to be Don all over - using minimum amount of effort for maximum effect, thinking things through and taking the logical step - and then a page later he's joyriding on a snowmobile, tearing it up through the sewers. He's the turtle with the bag of tricks, the tech head, and can kick ass with merely a stick. I love him for that. __________________ Oh Discordia! Charyou Tree! Come, Reap! Don't tell us to grow up and out of it I got my cloak and dagger in a bar room brawl You actually trying to read this tiny text? Damn, you're dedicated! This is all just for effect you know... original TMNT art collection

01-24-2010, 03:07 PM	#7
ooglafina Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Olaf, Minnesota Posts: 413	I just said that because I vaguely remember somebody saying that he ranked last in strength in an RPG or something. __________________ "You look sharper than a page of Oscar Wilde's witticisms that have been rolled to a point, sprinkled with lemon juice and jabbed into someone's eye" - Ace Rimmer http://www.fanfiction.net/~connienervegas http://pizzas-scrolls.be/viewuser.php?uid=76 http://www.5wwwww5.com/forum/viewfor...tealthystories

01-24-2010, 06:19 PM	#12
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I do not see anything maladaptive about Donnie clipping off a bit of Splinter's fur. I think he wanted to analyze the mutagen's effects more closely. I do think of Donnie as one of the more stable and less limbic Turtles. He does fly under Splinter's radar since he is quiet and well-behaved. But in no way is he less important than his brothers. I do not think he is the least skilled in Ninjitsu. He passed to the Chu'unin level without problems. He may not get to show off his skills all that much, but that does not make him the least skilled. It would have been an interesting twist if Donnie was the one who would not graduate, but that would have been highly improbable. I wonder which martial art style does Donnie enjoy the most. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

01-24-2010, 12:17 PM	#1
ooglafina Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Olaf, Minnesota Posts: 413	Give Don some love Is it just me or are most of the comments made about him consist of the fact that he's physically the weakest and that Splinter ignores him and stuff like that. We all know he's smart, but there's got to be more to him than that. Give him some love. __________________ "You look sharper than a page of Oscar Wilde's witticisms that have been rolled to a point, sprinkled with lemon juice and jabbed into someone's eye" - Ace Rimmer http://www.fanfiction.net/~connienervegas http://pizzas-scrolls.be/viewuser.php?uid=76 http://www.5wwwww5.com/forum/viewfor...tealthystories

01-24-2010, 12:18 PM	#2
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,869	In every series Donatello always gets a huge role. He's certainly not ignored by any of the various TMNT writers.

01-24-2010, 06:53 PM	#13
Sword Slicin' Leo Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: 11th & Bleeker Posts: 763	---He was always the most popular turtle on video games (his reach with Bo) ---And he is only turtle to get major star to voice in tmnt movie's (corey feldman) __________________ https://www.facebook.com/NinjaTurtle...rs?ref=tn_tnmn

01-24-2010, 07:59 PM	#15
Cipher Foot Elite Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,454	It's because people have only seen the 4Kids cartoon and Imagi movie, and therefore love to wank over him as the sensitive Turtle that understands their shy nerdiness and unathleticism, blah blah blah, bullied in school, etc. And so, for the second time since joining, I make the statement: fans are retarded. Donatello is bad-ass in every version except the two mentioned above. And occasionally terrifying in the Mirage version.

01-24-2010, 08:54 PM	#16
ooglafina Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: St. Olaf, Minnesota Posts: 413	He's the guy who break's Shredder's neck in the first issue right. __________________ "You look sharper than a page of Oscar Wilde's witticisms that have been rolled to a point, sprinkled with lemon juice and jabbed into someone's eye" - Ace Rimmer http://www.fanfiction.net/~connienervegas http://pizzas-scrolls.be/viewuser.php?uid=76 http://www.5wwwww5.com/forum/viewfor...tealthystories

01-24-2010, 08:59 PM	#17
Koi Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,787	As Dark Don in the old cartoon he basically took down the shredder himself.