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The faithful would probably say the Bible is proof enough that god is male, what with the overabundance of male pronouns and references to "father." Though I could be wrong. It's been years since I've had a horse in that race, and even longer than that since I've considered myself faithful.
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Well, that being the case, the Bible was writen by men, many whom could have been biased, especially during a time when women weren't allowed the same kind of rights and respect that men were privilaged to have.
Ontop of that, religions older than Christianity have depicted God as female. So that's something to consider. But yeah, if there is a God, it's certainly not human, so it wouldn't even have gender. We need new pronouns, like on that episode of Futurama. I digress... On topic, yeah, this one particular church is pretty zany. A shame that they're allowed to continue with what they do.
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It's stuff that like this that makes people like myself who try and set a good example in the faith look bad. In a way, it makes me glad I'm not the one who has to deal with Phelps on Judgment Day.
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Not to get into a theological debate here, but there are many who believe God is immaterial. I have heard that before and I'm not really sure how to explain it. To me, God's an eternal mystery, which I guess includes the aspect of Him being immaterial if that makes sense.
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To be honest if there is a hell, I'm pretty sure it's being stuck for all eternity with that guy. Still, the priceless look on his face when he realizes he stuck with the rest of us sinners for all time should entertain for a few millennium at very least. I think it has to do with the fact that in the Christian faith, Adam, a man, came first, before Eve. In a way, that shows that males were the dominant ones. After all, scripture does say for wives to submit to their husbands. I had a conversation with a buddy about this and I asked if God had genitals. He told me no and then I asked why is God typically depicted as being male. That points back to Adam and Eve, where the male came first. And going back to wives submitting to their husbands, in a way, it's like the bride of Christ. I'm not sure what your faith is, but since Christians believe Jesus to be God, I guess that could also support God being male since Jesus is. I don't personally see how a female could come first. Do I think it would be contradictory for God to be viewed overall as a female even though Adam came before Eve? I would suppose so, because that would probably cause problems and scripture would be worded differently. It doesn't make sense to me for a female God to create a male first if you catch my drift. Then there's the view that God is not male, since He is not a physical, but a spiritual, being, which is talked about here. And if you disagree with anything I said, that's OK. Just thought I'd share my opinion with you. I was Roman Catholic, but am now firmly in recovery. And yeah, Jesus is god is the holy spirit. 1+1+1=1 and all that. Still though, Jesus refers to god as his Father, and....were god in the Christian traditions supposed to be female, I'm thinking a less gender specific honorific would have been chosen. As for your friend's theory about Adam and Eve. I believe it says in Genesis that Man and woman were created in his image. Or something to that effect. But then, that could have been something that King James did, though I can't fathom why. But then again, please bear in mind that I'm going merely by semantics , and not delving into actual beliefs. This is your book we're talking about here, and far be it for this heretic to tell you what your beliefs are.
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Oh. I didn't know I had to approach the question in a semantics-type position, so I just went with went I knew. I am familiar with the aspect of Adam and Eve being created in His image and likeness, but Adam that doesn't mean Adam wasn't created first, right? And do you think there's a connection between the two?
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I just wish I could walk up to every one of those "God hates..." picket signs, cross out the word "God" and replace it with the word "I"
not because I hate ... but because the holder does.
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Did anyone see these weirdos at Comic Con, or were they too cowardly to show up?
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Ah, I see. I'm sure it was funny.
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http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/artic...2_CUTLIN105145
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why are those people still alive?
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To spread hate and discord in our country. I heard on the news that they were going to protest at the funerals of some of the victims of the Tucson shooting saying that God willed the shooting to happen or some such drek.
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/they threatened to but they never did it.
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I remember seeing these pics, I was on the other side of the bridge when this happened. I wish I was there, I'd probably be getting some great pics, after hearing of that specific church's history when it came to Comi-Con events, this is the first time to be seeing THEM actually getting them back! It was a shocker but some of those are pretty funny.
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Yeah, I agree.
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This just in:
In a recent interview, God was quoted as saying he hates false prophets. The Westboro Baptist Church intends to picket his thoughtless comments. More on that at 11.
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^ For the win.
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I hate those Westboro people a ton!
I first heard of these people in 2007 in regards of the Amish Girl School Shootings story. Thank God (not theirs) that some with FOX News showed up to prevent these terrible people from demonstrating in Pennsylvania by giving them an hour of air time to spread out their message. Those girls were only like 7 years old, they're community is so not up to date with the modern world (no TV, radio), and they are close to God. These Westboro people were holding such signs as: "Your daughter is a whore." "Your girls are now burning in Hell," "They deserve to die in the hands of an angry God," "The Amish people are in their own religious whore house" "They brought this on themselves." And so on... Of all the things I heard these people show up at, this one (my first one) was the most hear breaking. Girls of age 7 for crying out loud! How could anyone that age have done anything to deserve such a terrible tragedy? I was so freaking pissed off about this, I nearly cried for those Amish people. No one deserves to bury their own children because of a psycho gunman, and to have these religious monsters show up-- NO ONE! The lastest thing that came up is the Supreme Court ruling in favor of the church against the Schnider Family when the father of a fallen soldier sued these people up to the Supreme Court. That father was butchered three times: his son died, the Westboro Devils showed up, the Supreme Court shoots him down over the Westboro Devils. I am so glad that FOX New's Bill O'Reilly volunteered to pay for the father's court fees, along with some donators. They had to owe over $100 thousand, but the Westboro Devils had to owe past the million dollar mark. I bet you anything, not a single person donated a cent to the church, and no one should. I'm not surprised that these people are doing this hateful protesting and getting away with it, because they are professional lawers. Anything they know beyond their twisted version of the bible and that's the law. And they have good money funding them. I never heard about the Comic con, college, high school, and some of the other things outside the fallen soldier funerals and the girl school shooting until I got to this topic thread tonight. These people obviously hate everything that isn't anything like them, and that says a lot. That Shirly Phelps, her wicket witch of the East sister, and her father (I think it's him) Fred Phelps are so sick, soul-less, pathedic, black-hearted, poisonious, and pure evil at the devil's level, you can almost wish harm against them and the destruction of the church. I know it's wrong to hate and wish harm or death on anyone, but if anyone truely deserve that it's them! In fact there are times I even imagin someone who's had enough of them just U-turns their car on the road and bulldoze them down when they protest. I will tell you this, and it's true. If I ever hear far enough in advance if these people ever show up in Chicago, or anywhere near its suburbs (where I'm from the far western in Kane County), I will see to it that these Westboro people get a taste of their own medicine. They have the right to voice their message, yes, but I along with everyone else has the same right to protest against what they're doing by voicing OUR message. Signs would go up saying stuff like: "God loves EVERYONE, except Westboro," "God Will Smight The Devil Church" "Westboro's lucky numbers: 666," "Jesus Is Crying Over Westboro," " God supports the soldiers of piece and freedom" "Jesus died for ALL our sins!" And so on... PS: The best way to deal with these really wicket looking people (and they are ugly both inside and out) and their devilish church is to drop a house on them, and being Kansas, they have the tornado that could make it possible. PPS: If it's so appropriate to celebrate dead people, then it's equally fair to celebrate when one of them dies by holding a carnival over their graves. Put the Tilt-A-Whirl over Shirly Phelp's grave burial, a ferris wheel over Fred Phelp's (he's the church founder and leader). |
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