Carter? Dregg? What is this crap? - Page 2

Fugitoid Jones · 02-15-2011, 05:13 AM

^^ @ Spitfire:

All I can think of is that scene from the first Mighty Ducks,

Gordon Bombay- "Do you guys know what sarcasm is?"

Chubby kid from Heavyweights- "NoOoOoOo!"

I couldn't get into the Red Sky seasons as a kid because at the time I thought Dregg was kinda too generic an alien villain, but mostly I think it was because I was starting to grow out of TMNT at the time anyway. Maybe if the Red Sky seasons had started earlier, I might've warmed up to Dregg and the extra mutations and Carter and blah blah blah.

Mona_Lisa · 02-15-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

At least the theme song & opening were pretty cool, even though the clips from the first live-action movie seemed ancient by the mid-90s.

I remember as a kid that I was really excited when the red sky seasons started even though I really disliked the new theme song and intro.

“the clips from the first live-action movie seemed ancient by the mid-90s”.

I liked that the battles got harder…. The turtles could get hurt. I loved Raph's bike…. But I hated Carter….. And I hated the turtles new mutations. I never finished the red sky episodes. But maybe someday I will…….

Sword Slicin' Leo · 02-15-2011, 11:41 AM

It was stupid

~~Ninja Turtles 25 Years~~ · 02-16-2011, 08:49 PM

This could be my imagination, but Dregg reminds me of Jafar from Aladdin.

*Spitfire* · 02-16-2011, 08:53 PM

I find it hilarious people hate on Fast Forward and BTTS for not being as "dark" as the rest of 2K3. The Red Sky OT debate is the polar opposite issue so you'd think more people would like it.

Avatar Yuffie · 02-17-2011, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

I find it hilarious people hate on Fast Forward and BTTS for not being as "dark" as the rest of 2K3. The Red Sky OT debate is the polar opposite issue so you'd think more people would like it.

That's true. The similarities between the two shows are freakingly eerie too.

Though I'd like to think the Red Sky season is when the OT Turtles realized the good old mantra of "Growing up sucks", while the NT Turtles tries to lighten up (because I admit they all had pretty traumatic experiences in that show: almost blown up in outer space, getting their lairs trashed, dissection).

*Icebot* · 02-17-2011, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles 25 Years

This could be my imagination, but Dregg reminds me of Jafar from Aladdin.

Dregg used to remind me of Jafar also. There's something they have in common: the name of the first episode of Season 10 is "The Return of Dregg". And one of the Aladdin movies is named "The Return of Jafar".

Bjarni · 02-19-2011, 12:34 PM

Maybe not the best Turtle episodes, but I liked them. I liked the ongoing storyline, I liked that they were doing it more mature, I liked that they were introducing new characters.

I liked Carter. And I miss him. I hope to see him in the Nickelodeon show actually...

*CyberCubed* · 02-19-2011, 12:43 PM

Season 10 was actually one of the best seasons of the OT.

*gobo* · 02-19-2011, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Season 10 was actually one of the best seasons of the OT.

Good one!

... That was a joke, right?

*VaughnMichael* · 02-20-2011, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Season 10 was actually one of the best seasons of the OT.

I'm going to have to agree with Cybercubed for once.
It is one of the best seasons of the old toon.

*CyberCubed* · 02-20-2011, 03:49 PM

I cried when the original series ended back in 1996. Of course I was only like 11 or 12 years old at the time.

I knew Next Mutation was coming, but I was so sad knowing the cartoon had ended.

I feel they could have done one more final season afterward, but Season 10 was an alright ending. Its not like most American cartoons at the time ever had real endings anyway.

Mona_Lisa · 02-21-2011, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Good one!

... That was a joke, right?

I hope it was a joke!!!!

*CyberCubed* · 02-21-2011, 05:47 PM

There are people who didn't think Season 10 was excellent?

*PizzaPower* · 02-21-2011, 06:01 PM

season 10 was amazing, but you could feel it was also the end of the old toon when you watch it.

*Coola Yagami* · 02-21-2011, 11:28 PM

It wasn't dark.... it was a kiddie goofy cartoon pretending to be dark. They still had almost no fighting, Raph did little more than toss his Sais around, the wisecracks between 'fights' got lamer and they were still fighting brightly colored cartoony looking monsters.

But what could they do? After 8 seasons of slapstick comedy and goofy stuff like Elvis aliens and such... turning the characters into dropdead serious characters would confuse the hell out of the fans. It would be like a SuperFriends episode where Darkseid suddenly got serious and beat the SuperFriends bloody and the Wonder Twins sacrificed their lives to defeat him, following with an episode of mourning.

*gobo* · 02-22-2011, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It wasn't dark.... it was a kiddie goofy cartoon pretending to be dark.

See? He gets it.

*oldmanwinters* · 02-22-2011, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It wasn't dark.... it was a kiddie goofy cartoon pretending to be dark.

I guess after the Fred Wolf turtles met up with their "uber-serious" multiverse counterparts in the Turtles Forever crossover they decided, "hey, we can be dark and edgy too!"

Just kidding, just kidding...

*Spitfire* · 02-22-2011, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It wasn't dark.... it was a kiddie goofy cartoon pretending to be dark. They still had almost no fighting, Raph did little more than toss his Sais around, the wisecracks between 'fights' got lamer and they were still fighting brightly colored cartoony looking monsters.

There were fights every episode, sometimes several, and almost no wisecracks at all. So I'm not sure what show you watched. It was very 90s action cartoon. Sure it had colorful villains but they were a step up from their previous rogues gallery. They were actually threatening and the turtles didn't win all the time. They almost completely cut out the Channel 6 stuff, which up to that point served as a lot of the comic relief.

I don't proclaim it's the greatest turtles thing ever but it's no where near bad. Not liking it is fine but calling it horrible is just ignorant.

*CyberCubed* · 02-22-2011, 12:46 AM

Wow, that is BS.

Seasons 8-10 had fight scenes in every episode, and far more fighting than most of the previous seasons. The Turtles almost died in several episodes. There were still some wise cracks from Raph though.

And it wasn't trying to be dark, they were just trying to be a more action oriented show. Which started back in Season 6, but whatever.

02-15-2011, 05:13 AM	#21
Fugitoid Jones Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: D'hoonib, VT Posts: 886	^^ @ Spitfire: All I can think of is that scene from the first Mighty Ducks, Gordon Bombay- "Do you guys know what sarcasm is?" Chubby kid from Heavyweights- "NoOoOoOo!" I couldn't get into the Red Sky seasons as a kid because at the time I thought Dregg was kinda too generic an alien villain, but mostly I think it was because I was starting to grow out of TMNT at the time anyway. Maybe if the Red Sky seasons had started earlier, I might've warmed up to Dregg and the extra mutations and Carter and blah blah blah. __________________ "You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself." -Dr. Zaius

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02-16-2011, 08:53 PM	#25
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I find it hilarious people hate on Fast Forward and BTTS for not being as "dark" as the rest of 2K3. The Red Sky OT debate is the polar opposite issue so you'd think more people would like it. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

02-19-2011, 12:34 PM	#28
Bjarni Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Iceland Posts: 285	Maybe not the best Turtle episodes, but I liked them. I liked the ongoing storyline, I liked that they were doing it more mature, I liked that they were introducing new characters. I liked Carter. And I miss him. I hope to see him in the Nickelodeon show actually... __________________ My YouTube account

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PizzaPower Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pizza Parlor Posts: 3,200	season 10 was amazing, but you could feel it was also the end of the old toon when you watch it. __________________ https://www.twitch.tv/turtlepizzapower

02-16-2011, 08:49 PM	#24
~~Ninja Turtles 25 Years~~ Temp Banned Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 225	This could be my imagination, but Dregg reminds me of Jafar from Aladdin.

02-19-2011, 12:43 PM	#29
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	Season 10 was actually one of the best seasons of the OT.

02-20-2011, 03:49 PM	#32
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	I cried when the original series ended back in 1996. Of course I was only like 11 or 12 years old at the time. I knew Next Mutation was coming, but I was so sad knowing the cartoon had ended. I feel they could have done one more final season afterward, but Season 10 was an alright ending. Its not like most American cartoons at the time ever had real endings anyway.

02-21-2011, 05:47 PM	#34
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	There are people who didn't think Season 10 was excellent?

02-21-2011, 11:28 PM	#36
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	It wasn't dark.... it was a kiddie goofy cartoon pretending to be dark. They still had almost no fighting, Raph did little more than toss his Sais around, the wisecracks between 'fights' got lamer and they were still fighting brightly colored cartoony looking monsters. But what could they do? After 8 seasons of slapstick comedy and goofy stuff like Elvis aliens and such... turning the characters into dropdead serious characters would confuse the hell out of the fans. It would be like a SuperFriends episode where Darkseid suddenly got serious and beat the SuperFriends bloody and the Wonder Twins sacrificed their lives to defeat him, following with an episode of mourning. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

02-22-2011, 12:46 AM	#40
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	Wow, that is BS. Seasons 8-10 had fight scenes in every episode, and far more fighting than most of the previous seasons. The Turtles almost died in several episodes. There were still some wise cracks from Raph though. And it wasn't trying to be dark, they were just trying to be a more action oriented show. Which started back in Season 6, but whatever.