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Old 06-05-2011, 09:36 AM   #1
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Are there any gay characters in the TMNT franchise?

This was brought up in the comic section, but I am bringing it up here too. Out of the 25 years of TMNT history, have there ever been any confirmed gay/lesbian characters in any TMNT history?

I know some people think of Vernon, but I always assumed he was based on the straight, wimpy man who was always a coward.
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Old 06-05-2011, 09:39 AM   #2
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Well, it's not like sexuality ever had a big place in any TMNT universe. Most of the characters seem kinda asexual
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Old 06-05-2011, 10:15 AM   #3
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I know some people think of Vernon, but I always assumed he was based on the straight, wimpy man who was always a coward.
He comes off to me as someone who is kind of a womanizer. I remember in "Donatello's Degree" we asks April for mouth to mouth resuscitation, with the intention of getting a kiss.

Doesn't he flirt/harass her some other times throughout the series? I cant remember everything from every episode.
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Old 06-05-2011, 12:26 PM   #4
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I cant remember everything from every episode.
Then, what kind of a fan are you?
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Old 06-05-2011, 12:48 PM   #5
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Not a TRUE fan, that's for sure.

You know I kid, X.
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Old 06-05-2011, 03:01 PM   #6
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Vernon's definitely not gay. Like I said in the other thread though, Agent Bishop might be.
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Old 06-05-2011, 03:07 PM   #7
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Vernon's definitely not gay. Like I said in the other thread though, Agent Bishop might be.
What is the basis for this claim though?

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Well, it's not like sexuality ever had a big place in any TMNT universe. Most of the characters seem kinda asexual
Seriously? I can think of several just off the top of my head. April and Casey, Raph and Ninjara, etc... and Michelangelo develops feelings for girls in just about EVERY TMNT universe.
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Old 06-05-2011, 03:39 PM   #8
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Seriously? I can think of several just off the top of my head. April and Casey, Raph and Ninjara, etc... and Michelangelo develops feelings for girls in just about EVERY TMNT universe.
But neither romance nor sex is a huge driving factor in the overall plot line of the series.

Certainly there is a little of both, but it's the exception more then the rule.

And a lot of the characters do seem kind of asexual, the Utroms come to mind (not that I personally would really want to think about how they breed). Leatherhead, Fugitoid (I know he's a robot, but he was a man once and still probably thinks like one) Nobody.... I mean I could go on. All characters I have never seen presented in any sort of romantic or sexual way.
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What is the basis for this claim though?
Well I was just mentally sifting through all the TMNT characters, and my gaydar kinda went off when I thought about Bishop. I tried picturing him with a wife, didn't seem right. Tried picturing him with a domestic partner, seemed plausible.
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i kinda see him raping leatherhead actually.
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I have "gaydar" too, and now that you guys mention it, I'm open to the possibility of him being gay...he does seem to have a weird fascination with Leatherhead.
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Not that it really matters one bit to me what Bishop's sexual orientation is their is also the possibility that much like Ahab in Moby Dick he is just so obsessed with his personal "white whale" that everything else in his life means little or nothing to him.

Look at his friend he turned into a monster in Dragon's Brew. He was the best man in the guys wedding and still gave absolutely no regard to destroying his life when it bettered his personal agenda.
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Seriously? I can think of several just off the top of my head. April and Casey, Raph and Ninjara, etc... and Michelangelo develops feelings for girls in just about EVERY TMNT universe.
Ok, that's five characters. And the other 247 (or whatever)?

I'm not saying that sex and romance weren't there, it was just never a big part of it.

But now I truly hope for at least one gay character in the new comics
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Not that it really matters one bit to me what Bishop's sexual orientation is their is also the possibility that much like Ahab in Moby Dick he is just so obsessed with his personal "white whale" that everything else in his life means little or nothing to him.
Well his sexuality doesn't really matter except in the sense that that's kinda the point of this thread But I agree with you, the Ahab comparison is more or less valid.
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What is the basis for this claim though?
Pink uniform & sissy attitude. By the "sissy" aspect, this means that Frasier & Niles Crane are both gay despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, but it's more of a "you ain't a man unless you're a macho idiot" sort of misconception.
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Everybody knows its Raph/Leo, so many fanfics/fanart can't be wrong.
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Well I was just mentally sifting through all the TMNT characters, and my gaydar kinda went off when I thought about Bishop. I tried picturing him with a wife, didn't seem right. Tried picturing him with a domestic partner, seemed plausible.
Since when does Bishop have time for love? He's a crazy bastard dedicated to his work.
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Ok I got it double wammy, the punk frogs are gay and practice incest or they could jst be a sexaul
lol this is really messed up talking about character sexuality on a kids/teen franchise
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Ok I got it double wammy, the punk frogs are gay and practice incest or they could jst be a sexaul
lol this is really messed up talking about character sexuality on a kids/teen franchise
That's not even funny, just gross. Whyyyyy would you go there?!
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