TMNT and tears

Ulisa · 10-04-2011, 07:29 PM

While I was reading over some of the old posts about Turtles Forever, I did notice the comments regarding the OT turtles crying. Now, without getting into whether or not it was OOC or not, I did start thinking about both the OT and the NT.

It surprised me that they actually did cry some, in both cartoons. I actually find this intriguing because I don't see this a lot in cartoons. Seems like most cartoon characters are allowed to be upset but not cry, especially if they're male characters. Hence, this topic interests me.

Of the OT, I remember Michelangelo crying in Polly Want a Pizza when his brothers tell him to get rid of the parrot. In Michelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko, Raphael cries when he thinks Michelangelo died in the trunk crash.

Of the NT, I just remember Raph crying when Leo is injured and won't wake up.

Are there any other instances that you all can recall?

*Slap-Happy* · 10-04-2011, 07:37 PM

I don't seem to remember any other instances of crying in OT.

The first movie has a lot of crying in it though. Kind of weird that a movie based on a Satuday morning cartoon was so emotional.

*Powder* · 10-04-2011, 07:40 PM

It's funny, the turtles are some of the most "human" characters out there & they're reptiles. I've always appreciated that.

*Slap-Happy* · 10-04-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

It's funny, the turtles are some of the most "human" characters out there & they're reptiles. I've always appreciated that.

I think that's probably the most edearing aspect of the turtles, besides, you know, them being Mutant Ninjas.

Ulisa · 10-04-2011, 08:16 PM

I loved the fact that they could be so emotional, even as a kid.

I remember watching an OT episode, I believe it was "What's Michelangelo Good For?" and even though it was a little scene, the part where the three turtles think Michelangelo had been blown up stuck with me. Not just the animation but the voice talents in that scene. I had always thought Leonardo remained pretty calm, in most instances, but his "We'll get you for this" combined with the animation close-up of his face is still one of the few times in the OT where I thought (and still think) 'Whoa...he's pissed.'

Just little instances like that really add a lot to the characters I think. I tend to be Leo and Mikey-biased but I think it helps round out so much of the character, gives them a lot more depth. I'm probably being nostalgic but in cartoons nowadays, I mainly see: happy, sad, angry, scared.

In TMNT as well as other cartoons from my childhood, I could recall: angry, pissed, happy, excited, exasperated, nervous, guilty, grieving, etc, etc.

I like that

*ToTheNines* · 10-04-2011, 08:49 PM

OT... I remember Michaelangelo crying a few times during season 3. I'll have to think harder about that one.

In the 4kids show, Leo cried a little bit after he had to leave Splinter during RTTNY part 3. Splinter cried during a couple of the Hamato Yoshi flashbacks. Mikey teared up when April was about to get married but that was just for "comedic effect".

I always felt it was kind of weird that Don didn't shed any during SAINW, oh well.

*pannoni1* · 10-05-2011, 06:19 AM

I remember Mike crying when someone told him that there won't be any more pizza ever again (around Season 4-5ish). I think I've even heard Irma cry a few times about how she's still looking for Mr. right as well. And I do feel like having more depth of emotion helps people as well; I've noticed many kids nowadays don't have the emotional diversity like I had, and since what you watch as kid greatly influences your lifestyle, today's shows really are showing it.

*Jephael* · 10-05-2011, 06:30 AM

In one episode Irma cries so loud I want Burne Thompson to stomp in and threaten to fire her unless she shut her trap!

I remember an emotional scene in "Splinter Vanishes" where Mikey got pretty teared up when they had to split up.

*pannoni1* · 10-05-2011, 06:59 AM

I've even heard Krang cry once after he feels apparently jealous that Shredder borrowed his Dimension X Express Card and was staying in that hotel before the foot trashed it. And Shredder sounds like he's crying near the end of "Shredder & Splintered" when he says "I don't want to conquer this place! I want to conquer earth! (In a weepy manner that no Shredder has ever done since!) It just shows how good the voice actors were in the OT expressing all their emotions and is part of the atmosphere; there is much less crying on the 4Kids show and I don't remember any at all during Red Sky.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-05-2011, 09:23 AM

I'd have to say that the most powerful, emotional scenes were in the New Toon. Raph crying at the prospect of losing Leo, Leo crying at the prospect of leaving Splinter, and I think Leo even cried a bit after he cut Splinter in "The Ancient One." I'd have to watch it again to be sure.

*Luzmagica* · 10-05-2011, 12:49 PM

They are strong deep feelings imagens when your heros show their feelings....

Raph crying: Season 5 Chapter 2 Michelangelo meets Mondo Gecko:

*Luzmagica* · 10-05-2011, 12:52 PM

Michelangelo crying in Raphael Versus the Volcano...Season 5 Chapter 8:

....That is a strong scene for a kid...tho. we can see later it was a confusion...

*CyberCubed* · 10-05-2011, 12:53 PM

What about the ep where Mike is crying over the oven dying, and Raph standing in the doorframe thinking he's crying about him? This is the ep where Raph thinks he's a goner and becomes the Green Avenger.

*Luzmagica* · 10-05-2011, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What about the ep where Mike is crying over the oven dying, and Raph standing in the doorframe thinking he's crying about him? This is the ep where Raph thinks he's a goner and becomes the Green Avenger.

^_0 Yes...Just take a look previous post...! All scene!

*Zachatello00* · 10-05-2011, 01:54 PM

In the 4kids toon, Casey sheds a tear in "Fallen Angel" after the TMNT rescue him and Mike hands him a baseball bat.

*Bauer536* · 10-05-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Luzmagica

They are strong deep feelings imagens when your heros show their feelings....

Raph crying: Season 5 Chapter 2 Michelangelo meets Mondo Gecko:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luzmagica

Michelangelo crying in Raphael Versus the Volcano...Season 5 Chapter 8:

....That is a strong scene for a kid...tho. we can see later it was a confusion...

I'm confused. I can't tell how I'm supposed to look at the pictures. They seem out of order.

*Slap-Happy* · 10-05-2011, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Luzmagica

Michelangelo crying in Raphael Versus the Volcano...Season 5 Chapter 8:

This makes me laugh. It makes it seem as if one of the turtles walks into the room to get something, sees Mike crying, feels like he's in an awkward situation and just leaves.

Herald7 · 10-05-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chicken Whisperer

This makes me laugh. It makes it seem as if one of the turtles walks into the room to get something, sees Mike crying, feels like he's in an awkward situation and just leaves.

LOL, it does look like that.

*Powder* · 10-06-2011, 12:00 AM

That IS what happened in the scene, more or less...

*Luzmagica* · 10-06-2011, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bauer536

I'm confused. I can't tell how I'm supposed to look at the pictures. They seem out of order.

Sorry * Im confuse also

*...I know the meaning of the sentence but I dont get the comment....Which ones seems out of order? There are two different secenes from different chapters... Not from same chapter....Let me know...just in case I mislead any frame....!

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Originally Posted by The Chicken Whisperer

This makes me laugh. It makes it seem as if one of the turtles walks into the room to get something, sees Mike crying, feels like he's in an awkward situation and just leaves.

ehemmm.... Of course ...I think its not a spoiler.... if I tell that Raph believes that Mike is crying because of him, because Raph believe Mike cries for him very illness and is going to die soon....so he leaves the place to quietly, he dont want do more damage/pain/sad to his brothers....

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Originally Posted by Herald7

LOL, it does look like that.

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Originally Posted by Powder

That IS what happened in the scene, more or less...

Thanks! ....

10-04-2011, 07:29 PM	#1
Ulisa Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Various Fantasy Realms Posts: 145	TMNT and tears While I was reading over some of the old posts about Turtles Forever, I did notice the comments regarding the OT turtles crying. Now, without getting into whether or not it was OOC or not, I did start thinking about both the OT and the NT. It surprised me that they actually did cry some, in both cartoons. I actually find this intriguing because I don't see this a lot in cartoons. Seems like most cartoon characters are allowed to be upset but not cry, especially if they're male characters. Hence, this topic interests me. Of the OT, I remember Michelangelo crying in Polly Want a Pizza when his brothers tell him to get rid of the parrot. In Michelangelo Meets Mondo Gecko, Raphael cries when he thinks Michelangelo died in the trunk crash. Of the NT, I just remember Raph crying when Leo is injured and won't wake up. Are there any other instances that you all can recall?

10-05-2011, 06:19 AM	#7
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	I remember Mike crying when someone told him that there won't be any more pizza ever again (around Season 4-5ish). I think I've even heard Irma cry a few times about how she's still looking for Mr. right as well. And I do feel like having more depth of emotion helps people as well; I've noticed many kids nowadays don't have the emotional diversity like I had, and since what you watch as kid greatly influences your lifestyle, today's shows really are showing it. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

10-05-2011, 06:30 AM	#8
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	In one episode Irma cries so loud I want Burne Thompson to stomp in and threaten to fire her unless she shut her trap! I remember an emotional scene in "Splinter Vanishes" where Mikey got pretty teared up when they had to split up. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

10-05-2011, 06:59 AM	#9
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	I've even heard Krang cry once after he feels apparently jealous that Shredder borrowed his Dimension X Express Card and was staying in that hotel before the foot trashed it. And Shredder sounds like he's crying near the end of "Shredder & Splintered" when he says "I don't want to conquer this place! I want to conquer earth! (In a weepy manner that no Shredder has ever done since!) It just shows how good the voice actors were in the OT expressing all their emotions and is part of the atmosphere; there is much less crying on the 4Kids show and I don't remember any at all during Red Sky. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

10-05-2011, 09:23 AM	#10
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I'd have to say that the most powerful, emotional scenes were in the New Toon. Raph crying at the prospect of losing Leo, Leo crying at the prospect of leaving Splinter, and I think Leo even cried a bit after he cut Splinter in "The Ancient One." I'd have to watch it again to be sure. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-04-2011, 07:37 PM	#2
Slap-Happy Bad Boy Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,911	I don't seem to remember any other instances of crying in OT. The first movie has a lot of crying in it though. Kind of weird that a movie based on a Satuday morning cartoon was so emotional.

10-04-2011, 07:40 PM	#3
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	It's funny, the turtles are some of the most "human" characters out there & they're reptiles. I've always appreciated that.

10-04-2011, 08:16 PM	#5
Ulisa Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Various Fantasy Realms Posts: 145	I loved the fact that they could be so emotional, even as a kid. I remember watching an OT episode, I believe it was "What's Michelangelo Good For?" and even though it was a little scene, the part where the three turtles think Michelangelo had been blown up stuck with me. Not just the animation but the voice talents in that scene. I had always thought Leonardo remained pretty calm, in most instances, but his "We'll get you for this" combined with the animation close-up of his face is still one of the few times in the OT where I thought (and still think) 'Whoa...he's pissed.' Just little instances like that really add a lot to the characters I think. I tend to be Leo and Mikey-biased but I think it helps round out so much of the character, gives them a lot more depth. I'm probably being nostalgic but in cartoons nowadays, I mainly see: happy, sad, angry, scared. In TMNT as well as other cartoons from my childhood, I could recall: angry, pissed, happy, excited, exasperated, nervous, guilty, grieving, etc, etc. I like that

10-04-2011, 08:49 PM	#6
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,363	OT... I remember Michaelangelo crying a few times during season 3. I'll have to think harder about that one. In the 4kids show, Leo cried a little bit after he had to leave Splinter during RTTNY part 3. Splinter cried during a couple of the Hamato Yoshi flashbacks. Mikey teared up when April was about to get married but that was just for "comedic effect". I always felt it was kind of weird that Don didn't shed any during SAINW, oh well.

10-05-2011, 12:49 PM	#11
Luzmagica A Magic Light Dudette! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Spain. Posts: 3,878	They are strong deep feelings imagens when your heros show their feelings.... Raph crying: Season 5 Chapter 2 Michelangelo meets Mondo Gecko: __________________

10-05-2011, 12:52 PM	#12
Luzmagica A Magic Light Dudette! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Spain. Posts: 3,878	Michelangelo crying in Raphael Versus the Volcano...Season 5 Chapter 8: ....That is a strong scene for a kid...tho. we can see later it was a confusion... __________________ Last edited by Luzmagica; 10-05-2011 at 01:19 PM.

10-05-2011, 12:53 PM	#13
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,880	What about the ep where Mike is crying over the oven dying, and Raph standing in the doorframe thinking he's crying about him? This is the ep where Raph thinks he's a goner and becomes the Green Avenger.

10-05-2011, 01:54 PM	#15
Zachatello00 On the beat! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hiding behind the phone booth Posts: 2,137	In the 4kids toon, Casey sheds a tear in "Fallen Angel" after the TMNT rescue him and Mike hands him a baseball bat. __________________ "You're still news!"

10-06-2011, 12:00 AM	#19
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	That IS what happened in the scene, more or less...