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Shreddhead · 10-09-2011, 05:07 PM

Has there ever been a list that detailed the rarity of the Tmnt Playmates figures?

*Slap-Happy* · 10-09-2011, 06:14 PM

Is there a full checklist of all of the Playmates figures, playsets and vehicles (Besides the archived ninjaturtles.com)?

Sailor_sega · 10-14-2011, 05:01 PM

Not sure if this should go here or if it should be it's own thread but I recently picked up Gobbledygook V2#1 and I enjoyed all the stories in it (except the Cosmic Crows stories) and I was wondering if Gobbledygook V1 has ever been reprinted or if there is anywhere online I can read them (preferably in a legal fashion)?
I'm a n00b when it comes to the comics on;y I've read a handful of random issues although I have ordered The Collection Book Volume One from someone on eBay so I'm looking forward to that arriving.

*Powder* · 10-14-2011, 05:11 PM

I've been meaning to ask the same question, eager to see the answer.

*DrSpengler* · 10-14-2011, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor_sega

Not sure if this should go here or if it should be it's own thread but I recently picked up Gobbledygook V2#1 and I enjoyed all the stories in it (except the Cosmic Crows stories) and I was wondering if Gobbledygook V1 has ever been reprinted or if there is anywhere online I can read them (preferably in a legal fashion)?
I'm a n00b when it comes to the comics on;y I've read a handful of random issues although I have ordered The Collection Book Volume One from someone on eBay so I'm looking forward to that arriving.

I'm afraid I don't know where to find Gobbledygook Vol. 1 #1-2 online anywhere, but to answer part of your question:

They've never been reprinted in full; not legally, anyway. There were lots of bootlegs printed over the years (in better quality than the originals, which were published on xerox paper), but Mirage has never rereleased the full issues.

Selected content from the issues HAS been reprinted here and there, though. All the Fugitoid chapters, obviously, while maybe one or two of the other stories were included in Gobbledygood Vol. 2 #1, which you already own.

wilddiverse · 10-14-2011, 05:49 PM

Archon has photos of the counterfeit #1 & #2 from his collection: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...&postcount=154

Way, way better than nothing!

Sailor_sega · 10-14-2011, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilddiverse

Archon has photos of the counterfeit #1 & #2.
Way, way better than nothing!

Thanks man, I'll read these later today.

Also thanks to DrSpengler for the info.

mikezilla2 · 10-15-2011, 05:22 AM

hey long time TMNT fan posting from Australia , just thought id pop in to ask a few things , my main interest has always been the 1980s series and wili i do like the styling of the 4 kids show in its darker parts im not so much a fan of it ,

it dawned on me today that i should probably start reading the comics , all i have really is a " hero turtles " comic that looks like it was published in the uk any who after doing a bit of digging and noticing alot of first prints going for what seems like a pretty good deal 2-28 for 250 , granted i dont no much and dont own many comics im just wondering were i should be looking

im more interested in full colour prints tho i could be swayed ether way if the shots are detailed enough , got a thing for thick lines - but yea im not srue if i should be going for first prints or if i should be waiting for somthing ... ? more or less looking for a breakdown of what series are what, full colour and black and white and a price estimate

also the 1980s tv show comics ? at a guess it looks like i could get some old prints for around $400 not srue if thats to much wouldnt want to pay any more then that per series i konw that much but yea just looking for a a quick break down of series

wili im here , i was in game traders one day and the manger was talking about a dark and girtty japenase version ?

so im looking for both the kidde versions and some of the more mature stuff

cheers guys

Sailor_sega · 10-15-2011, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikezilla2

My main interest has always been the 1980s series and wili i do like the styling of the 4 kids show in its darker parts im not so much a fan of it ,

it dawned on me today that i should probably start reading the comics , all i have really is a " hero turtles " comic that looks like it was published in the U.K.
...
so im looking for both the kidde versions and some of the more mature stuff

cheers guys

Maybe start with the Archie Series? It's based on the '87 series and you can find the issues pretty cheap. there are also collected versions of the Archie Turtles if you prefer to have your comics in collected form rather than single issues.

As for the Mirage comics Don't ask me I'm as in the dark as you are but you may find this site helpful.
http://tmntentity.blogspot.com/

mikezilla2 · 10-15-2011, 06:03 AM

it relly all comes down to cost if i can get the whole archie series in good nick for less then say and arm and leg then it may be worth it , not srue about the big issues , names would help ,

*Powder* · 10-15-2011, 06:48 AM

The Mirage volumes (as individual issues) are 75% black & white (of 4 volumes, only the second *a mere 13 issues* is in color given the rare exception here & there), whereas Archie's series was always in color. Mirage = darker tone, stories mostly taking place in either the streets/outer space. Archie is based loosely within the old cartoon universe though it strays the path of TV continuity after the 4th issue or something like that, adding new characters and taking a more serious tone down the line. Unless you're trying to be a die-hard collector, just concern yourself with the best prices on either series. Print number matters not as a reader, most of the books are exactly the same, 'cept for the cover. If you're looking to buy & sell, obviously you want older books, but you don't rub me that way. I can say this though, you will have a much easier time tracking down the Mirage books. Near the end of Archie's run, the books were printed less and less so basically issues 60-72 (and the few specials that followed) are very hard to come by, ESPECIALLY cheap. Here are some positives & negatives of each, maybe it will help you with your decison.

Mirage Positives:
-It's where the turtles began
-Dark/urban tone
-Illustrated in greater detail
-Various artists often from book to book
-Blood
-The first film is more or less an amalgamation of several issues
-Plenty of crossovers (Cerebus, Flaming Carrot, Savage Dragon, Spawn, etc.)

Mirage Negatives:
-Peter Laird & Kevin Eastman did not do the majority of the art
-Lacks ongoing storyline at times
-Some issues' "canon" status has been challenged by Peter Laird thus making the overall continuity of things a little blurred

Archie Positives:
-Lots of Mutants/aliens
-Similar to the cartoon
-Full color
-Ongoing story from first issue to last without breaks
-Splinter joins a lot of the fights
-History lessons

Archie Negatives:
-Often preachy with semi-political themes (recycling, religious tolerance, blah blah blah)
-Too many mutants (though this is also a positive most of the time, these characters also somewhat take away some of the turtles uniqueness, know what I mean?)
-Casey Jones doesn't exist (he's featured quite regularly in Mirage)
-The end of the series is impossible to get a hold of

Hope that clears things up a bit. & 2-28 first prints for $250... I wouldn't pay it. Nope. Despite what ebay suggests, a lot of turtle comics aren't worth much more than their cover prices, except for the first... I dunno, ten issues...

mikezilla2 · 10-15-2011, 07:16 AM

no casy jones - imposable to obtain , well that settles it , i might buy some of the collected issues of Archie some point or just some of the cheap stuff . assuming i could get a hold of the whole set of that or a mix of the collected issues how much would it set me back you think ?

think il just go with the Mirage comics , im not a hard core collector but i would like to keep it as ether all collected or all single issues would you advise just buying old near mint printings or buying touched up versions would like to keep consistency , all ov got to go off is ebay , dont think many of the local stores are able to get ahold of anything really , suggestions and pricing ? also what about collected Mirage issues still all black and white i take it ? dos a full print from start to finish exist ? are the cross overs part of the main print ? and were dos the " tales " series come in ?

cheers guys

*Powder* · 10-15-2011, 08:13 AM

The Archie series is definitely worth checking out, the first 30 issues at the least are very easy to find. There are collected books for that series, though they don't cover too much ground they can be had at a decent price at www.miragelicensing.com If you were to get a whole set, as in the whole run... It'd be expensive. I'd say multiply 5$ by however many issues there are (not that every issue is worth five, some are worth less, some are worth more, it's just my rough estimate for a final value kinda thing). Neither Mirage nor Archie have an omnibus (which is a book collecting the entire series) nor do they have the entire series covered over the course of several. As far as Mirage goes, there's a decent amount of collected books for the first volume that you can find and read about at the aforementioned website. Volumes 2 through four have not been released in collected formats as of yet, however, and no such plans have been put in motion as of this time either. IDW (the new turtles comic company) is releasing a collected book soon, but it only goes up to issue 11 (as most collected Mirage books did at first), whether or not they go beyond it and print the series in its entirety is up to the future. & as for color, here's the thing. The original issues were all black and white, but there are some collected books that come in color (I personally think the art is better suited without color, and I would imagine most fans here would agree). This book (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TMNT-COLLECT...item53e94a1fa1) for example, though in black & white, is byfar the best release to date. It contains the first 11 main issues, 4 one-shots, and I think 2 Fugitoid books in one. It covers the whole origin storyline in one book, it's a big read that even contains the cerebus crossover. Only problem is you won't find it at a great price (it's not worth what that ebay seller is asking). Someone here may have a spare, or who knows, your local comic shop might even. Maybe I'm rambling. Check out this link to see a simple breakdown of each collected book. The ones simply titled books are color, the "collected" ones are B/W.

It's probably easier to go with the single issues if you're looking to read the entire run, but there'd certainly be no harm in testing the waters by buying a collected book to start out. Perhaps buy the last book on this page (http://miragelicensing.com/paypal/trades.html) which is the first 3 issues in a big book, in color for $12. A great deal, and fabulous introduction to the mirage comics. If you like it, pursue the single issues from that point on.

As for Tales Of The TMNT, it's more or less a series of comics that take place in between other issues. For example, Tales # 41 might take place in between TMNT #9 & #10, see what I mean? Not a good place to start considering how one issue will take place in 1984, and the next in 2099, can be very confusing if you've not read EVERYTHING.

mikezilla2 · 10-19-2011, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder

The Archie series is definitely worth checking out, the first 30 issues at the least are very easy to find. There are collected books for that series, though they don't cover too much ground they can be had at a decent price at www.miragelicensing.com If you were to get a whole set, as in the whole run... It'd be expensive. I'd say multiply 5$ by however many issues there are (not that every issue is worth five, some are worth less, some are worth more, it's just my rough estimate for a final value kinda thing). Neither Mirage nor Archie have an omnibus (which is a book collecting the entire series) nor do they have the entire series covered over the course of several. As far as Mirage goes, there's a decent amount of collected books for the first volume that you can find and read about at the aforementioned website. Volumes 2 through four have not been released in collected formats as of yet, however, and no such plans have been put in motion as of this time either. IDW (the new turtles comic company) is releasing a collected book soon, but it only goes up to issue 11 (as most collected Mirage books did at first), whether or not they go beyond it and print the series in its entirety is up to the future. & as for color, here's the thing. The original issues were all black and white, but there are some collected books that come in color (I personally think the art is better suited without color, and I would imagine most fans here would agree). This book (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TMNT-COLLECT...item53e94a1fa1) for example, though in black & white, is byfar the best release to date. It contains the first 11 main issues, 4 one-shots, and I think 2 Fugitoid books in one. It covers the whole origin storyline in one book, it's a big read that even contains the cerebus crossover. Only problem is you won't find it at a great price (it's not worth what that ebay seller is asking). Someone here may have a spare, or who knows, your local comic shop might even. Maybe I'm rambling. Check out this link to see a simple breakdown of each collected book. The ones simply titled books are color, the "collected" ones are B/W.

It's probably easier to go with the single issues if you're looking to read the entire run, but there'd certainly be no harm in testing the waters by buying a collected book to start out. Perhaps buy the last book on this page (http://miragelicensing.com/paypal/trades.html) which is the first 3 issues in a big book, in color for $12. A great deal, and fabulous introduction to the mirage comics. If you like it, pursue the single issues from that point on.

As for Tales Of The TMNT, it's more or less a series of comics that take place in between other issues. For example, Tales # 41 might take place in between TMNT #9 & #10, see what I mean? Not a good place to start considering how one issue will take place in 1984, and the next in 2099, can be very confusing if you've not read EVERYTHING.

cheers , so something like this would of not been that good? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/220873055...84.m1438.l2649

i think the worst part is that one you linked me that ( price is updated - guessing its still not worth it ?) worst part is i recall somone i knew offering to sell it to me for next to nothing signed and all - he said i would be kicking myself later - he was right lol

just wondering are the ones of the one you linked that are being sold on amazon the same thing ? i think i could get one for around $90 from the US tho postage would suck like $20 or more or theres ones in the UK for 25 pounds no picture

i didn't want wait for the web store you linked to post the comic as it would of taken longer then simply buying it else were i figure so i just went with this

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/360400423...84.m1438.l2649

guessing il probbly just end up buying all together

would this have been any good when it was live ?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190585882...84.m1438.l2649

problem is postage is like 52USD for that lot

*Powder* · 10-23-2011, 03:11 AM

1st link- Not a great deal imo.

2nd link- I don't really know much about that book, so I dunno.

3rd Link- Yes, would've been a nice price for sure. Sans postage, of course.

I don't know what amazon has for sale, or rather what it is you're referring to... Maybe if you link me I could be of some help.

wilddiverse · 10-23-2011, 03:26 AM

2nd link is the 6th Printing of TMNT v1 #1.

mikezilla2 · 10-23-2011, 03:28 AM

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eastman-Lair...9358382&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/COLLECTED-Teen...9358447&sr=8-4

amazon sell lots of things .....

wilddiverse · 10-23-2011, 04:07 AM

Link 1 appears to be one of the Tundra Press-published Archie TMNT collections--
http://miragelicensing.com/comics/bo...ne/volone.html

*Powder* · 10-23-2011, 04:34 AM

Under $90 for the book in the second link ain't bad, dunno about the shipping though.

oldschoolturtlesfan · 11-04-2011, 05:32 PM

I have a question about Mirage Vol. 1 #1. I know that there were only 3000 printed and a lot of those do not exist anymore. I have made it a goal of mine to get one of these comics in NM condition one day. I have a question though. I always thought the first printing of the comic was printed on off-white paper. Every copy I see graded by CGC on Ebay in 9.0 and above condition say white pages. How is this possible? I just do not want to get ripped off with so much money on the line.

I made a thread with this question before I saw this sticky. Sorry mods.

10-09-2011, 05:07 PM	#801
Shreddhead Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,470	Has there ever been a list that detailed the rarity of the Tmnt Playmates figures? __________________

10-14-2011, 05:49 PM	#806
wilddiverse Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago-ish Posts: 698	Archon has photos of the counterfeit #1 & #2 from his collection: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...&postcount=154 Way, way better than nothing! __________________ Great Typo, Unfortunate Truth: "The once gritty, satirical, hard-hitting Turtles became cuddly, fun-loving, pizz-swirling heroes to little kids" <Picture of a dead turtle>

10-15-2011, 07:16 AM	#812
mikezilla2 Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 115	no casy jones - imposable to obtain , well that settles it , i might buy some of the collected issues of Archie some point or just some of the cheap stuff . assuming i could get a hold of the whole set of that or a mix of the collected issues how much would it set me back you think ? think il just go with the Mirage comics , im not a hard core collector but i would like to keep it as ether all collected or all single issues would you advise just buying old near mint printings or buying touched up versions would like to keep consistency , all ov got to go off is ebay , dont think many of the local stores are able to get ahold of anything really , suggestions and pricing ? also what about collected Mirage issues still all black and white i take it ? dos a full print from start to finish exist ? are the cross overs part of the main print ? and were dos the " tales " series come in ? cheers guys Last edited by mikezilla2; 10-15-2011 at 07:36 AM.

10-23-2011, 03:26 AM	#816
wilddiverse Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago-ish Posts: 698	2nd link is the 6th Printing of TMNT v1 #1. __________________ Great Typo, Unfortunate Truth: "The once gritty, satirical, hard-hitting Turtles became cuddly, fun-loving, pizz-swirling heroes to little kids" <Picture of a dead turtle>

10-23-2011, 04:07 AM	#818
wilddiverse Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago-ish Posts: 698	Link 1 appears to be one of the Tundra Press-published Archie TMNT collections-- http://miragelicensing.com/comics/bo...ne/volone.html __________________ Great Typo, Unfortunate Truth: "The once gritty, satirical, hard-hitting Turtles became cuddly, fun-loving, pizz-swirling heroes to little kids" <Picture of a dead turtle>

10-09-2011, 06:14 PM	#802
Slap-Happy Bad Boy Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,911	Is there a full checklist of all of the Playmates figures, playsets and vehicles (Besides the archived ninjaturtles.com)?

10-14-2011, 05:01 PM	#803
Sailor_sega Random Punk Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 18	Not sure if this should go here or if it should be it's own thread but I recently picked up Gobbledygook V2#1 and I enjoyed all the stories in it (except the Cosmic Crows stories) and I was wondering if Gobbledygook V1 has ever been reprinted or if there is anywhere online I can read them (preferably in a legal fashion)? I'm a n00b when it comes to the comics on;y I've read a handful of random issues although I have ordered The Collection Book Volume One from someone on eBay so I'm looking forward to that arriving.

10-14-2011, 05:11 PM	#804
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	I've been meaning to ask the same question, eager to see the answer.

10-15-2011, 05:22 AM	#808
mikezilla2 Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 115	hey long time TMNT fan posting from Australia , just thought id pop in to ask a few things , my main interest has always been the 1980s series and wili i do like the styling of the 4 kids show in its darker parts im not so much a fan of it , it dawned on me today that i should probably start reading the comics , all i have really is a " hero turtles " comic that looks like it was published in the uk any who after doing a bit of digging and noticing alot of first prints going for what seems like a pretty good deal 2-28 for 250 , granted i dont no much and dont own many comics im just wondering were i should be looking im more interested in full colour prints tho i could be swayed ether way if the shots are detailed enough , got a thing for thick lines - but yea im not srue if i should be going for first prints or if i should be waiting for somthing ... ? more or less looking for a breakdown of what series are what, full colour and black and white and a price estimate also the 1980s tv show comics ? at a guess it looks like i could get some old prints for around $400 not srue if thats to much wouldnt want to pay any more then that per series i konw that much but yea just looking for a a quick break down of series wili im here , i was in game traders one day and the manger was talking about a dark and girtty japenase version ? so im looking for both the kidde versions and some of the more mature stuff cheers guys

10-15-2011, 06:03 AM	#810
mikezilla2 Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 115	it relly all comes down to cost if i can get the whole archie series in good nick for less then say and arm and leg then it may be worth it , not srue about the big issues , names would help ,

10-15-2011, 06:48 AM	#811
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	The Mirage volumes (as individual issues) are 75% black & white (of 4 volumes, only the second a mere 13 issues is in color given the rare exception here & there), whereas Archie's series was always in color. Mirage = darker tone, stories mostly taking place in either the streets/outer space. Archie is based loosely within the old cartoon universe though it strays the path of TV continuity after the 4th issue or something like that, adding new characters and taking a more serious tone down the line. Unless you're trying to be a die-hard collector, just concern yourself with the best prices on either series. Print number matters not as a reader, most of the books are exactly the same, 'cept for the cover. If you're looking to buy & sell, obviously you want older books, but you don't rub me that way. I can say this though, you will have a much easier time tracking down the Mirage books. Near the end of Archie's run, the books were printed less and less so basically issues 60-72 (and the few specials that followed) are very hard to come by, ESPECIALLY cheap. Here are some positives & negatives of each, maybe it will help you with your decison. Mirage Positives: -It's where the turtles began -Dark/urban tone -Illustrated in greater detail -Various artists often from book to book -Blood -The first film is more or less an amalgamation of several issues -Plenty of crossovers (Cerebus, Flaming Carrot, Savage Dragon, Spawn, etc.) Mirage Negatives: -Peter Laird & Kevin Eastman did not do the majority of the art -Lacks ongoing storyline at times -Some issues' "canon" status has been challenged by Peter Laird thus making the overall continuity of things a little blurred Archie Positives: -Lots of Mutants/aliens -Similar to the cartoon -Full color -Ongoing story from first issue to last without breaks -Splinter joins a lot of the fights -History lessons Archie Negatives: -Often preachy with semi-political themes (recycling, religious tolerance, blah blah blah) -Too many mutants (though this is also a positive most of the time, these characters also somewhat take away some of the turtles uniqueness, know what I mean?) -Casey Jones doesn't exist (he's featured quite regularly in Mirage) -The end of the series is impossible to get a hold of Hope that clears things up a bit. & 2-28 first prints for $250... I wouldn't pay it. Nope. Despite what ebay suggests, a lot of turtle comics aren't worth much more than their cover prices, except for the first... I dunno, ten issues...

10-15-2011, 08:13 AM	#813
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	The Archie series is definitely worth checking out, the first 30 issues at the least are very easy to find. There are collected books for that series, though they don't cover too much ground they can be had at a decent price at www.miragelicensing.com If you were to get a whole set, as in the whole run... It'd be expensive. I'd say multiply 5$ by however many issues there are (not that every issue is worth five, some are worth less, some are worth more, it's just my rough estimate for a final value kinda thing). Neither Mirage nor Archie have an omnibus (which is a book collecting the entire series) nor do they have the entire series covered over the course of several. As far as Mirage goes, there's a decent amount of collected books for the first volume that you can find and read about at the aforementioned website. Volumes 2 through four have not been released in collected formats as of yet, however, and no such plans have been put in motion as of this time either. IDW (the new turtles comic company) is releasing a collected book soon, but it only goes up to issue 11 (as most collected Mirage books did at first), whether or not they go beyond it and print the series in its entirety is up to the future. & as for color, here's the thing. The original issues were all black and white, but there are some collected books that come in color (I personally think the art is better suited without color, and I would imagine most fans here would agree). This book (http://www.ebay.com/itm/TMNT-COLLECT...item53e94a1fa1) for example, though in black & white, is byfar the best release to date. It contains the first 11 main issues, 4 one-shots, and I think 2 Fugitoid books in one. It covers the whole origin storyline in one book, it's a big read that even contains the cerebus crossover. Only problem is you won't find it at a great price (it's not worth what that ebay seller is asking). Someone here may have a spare, or who knows, your local comic shop might even. Maybe I'm rambling. Check out this link to see a simple breakdown of each collected book. The ones simply titled books are color, the "collected" ones are B/W. It's probably easier to go with the single issues if you're looking to read the entire run, but there'd certainly be no harm in testing the waters by buying a collected book to start out. Perhaps buy the last book on this page (http://miragelicensing.com/paypal/trades.html) which is the first 3 issues in a big book, in color for $12. A great deal, and fabulous introduction to the mirage comics. If you like it, pursue the single issues from that point on. As for Tales Of The TMNT, it's more or less a series of comics that take place in between other issues. For example, Tales # 41 might take place in between TMNT #9 & #10, see what I mean? Not a good place to start considering how one issue will take place in 1984, and the next in 2099, can be very confusing if you've not read EVERYTHING.

10-23-2011, 03:11 AM	#815
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	1st link- Not a great deal imo. 2nd link- I don't really know much about that book, so I dunno. 3rd Link- Yes, would've been a nice price for sure. Sans postage, of course. I don't know what amazon has for sale, or rather what it is you're referring to... Maybe if you link me I could be of some help.

10-23-2011, 03:28 AM	#817
mikezilla2 Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 115	http://www.amazon.co.uk/Eastman-Lair...9358382&sr=8-1 http://www.amazon.com/COLLECTED-Teen...9358447&sr=8-4 amazon sell lots of things .....

10-23-2011, 04:34 AM	#819
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	Under $90 for the book in the second link ain't bad, dunno about the shipping though.

11-04-2011, 05:32 PM	#820
oldschoolturtlesfan Thug Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 57	I have a question about Mirage Vol. 1 #1. I know that there were only 3000 printed and a lot of those do not exist anymore. I have made it a goal of mine to get one of these comics in NM condition one day. I have a question though. I always thought the first printing of the comic was printed on off-white paper. Every copy I see graded by CGC on Ebay in 9.0 and above condition say white pages. How is this possible? I just do not want to get ripped off with so much money on the line. I made a thread with this question before I saw this sticky. Sorry mods.