A World Without the TMNT - Page 3

Type 97 Chi-ha · 02-12-2012, 06:17 PM

Oh, ninjas were known in the West prior to the TMNT. I first heard about them from watching the TV serial "Shogun", then reading the book of the same title by James Clavell.

FearlessLeader · 02-12-2012, 09:44 PM

This thought honestly depresses me.

I have no idea who I would be as a person without the guys. I learned my sense of morality from the Turtles. Pretty much every other interest I have I can trace back to my interest in the Turtles.

I choose to became a cop because of life lessons from Leonardo and being ingrained with the desire to help others.

I'm not certain how I would have made it through my parents divorce as a child without the guys.

Actually thinking about it, it's kind of insane to me just how much this fandom has influenced my life.

Panda Khan · 02-12-2012, 09:52 PM

I would probably be a Transformers/GI Joe fan without TMNT in my childhood.

*Powder* · 02-12-2012, 09:55 PM

I am definitely on the same page as you, Fearless. The TMNT got me through most if not all of my low points in life.
I'd rather not entertain the thought of not having their influence in my life.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-13-2012, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FearlessLeader

I choose to became a cop because of life lessons from Leonardo and being ingrained with the desire to help others.

Are you talking about the "Take Me to Your Leader" episode?

Ninja Tiptup · 02-13-2012, 08:00 AM

Woah... never really thought about that before.

Well for me... I guess I would have stuck to Disney Afternoon cartoons. I might not have found a more actiony show that interested me until FOX Kids aired Batman, X-Men or Spider-Man or maybe when Disney aired Gargoyles. Honestly I didn't fully appreciate any of those besides Spider-Man: TAS until I was older. Maybe the first big toy franchise I would have gone bonkers over would have been Power Rangers as I was still pretty young when that started. I wasn't into Transformers, G.I. Joe or ThunderCats but that may have changed with no TMNT around to latch onto.

Pizza probably wouldn't be among my favorite foods and I might never had a fondness for reptiles and amphibians.

I wouldn't have gotten in trouble for repeating "damn" from TMNT 1 back in kindergarden.

I may never have notice the voice work of Cam Clarke, Barry Gordon, Pat Fraley, Peter Reneday or Townsend Coleman. Though Townsend and Cam might have still been in The Tick had that been produced in the 90s as it was. I wouldn't have had that added interest that Barry Gordon was Jake on SWAT Kats or Cam Clarke was He-Man in the 2002 remake.

I would have stopped watching network Saturday morning cartoons way earlier had there been no TMNT 2003 on the 4Kids block. Something else would have been the first show I collected on DVD as well. Potentially I would not have spent nearly as much money as I have on DVDs over the years.

I'd probably be a lot less paranoid of chemicals having not been freaked out by various mutagen creations in the TMNT mythos. As I didn't really read comics until around Jr. High and still don't read many.

I potentially would have a lot less toys in general or maybe just more Power Rangers stuff but as much as I've enjoyed many franchises over the years, TMNT is easily the one taking up the most space in any residence I have live at.

I'm not sure what my cousin and I would have bonded over for so many years.

My tastes in cartoons might be dramatically different if Ninja Turtles never existed. I might not even like cartoons as much as I do now if it were not for TMNT.

As for the industry...

CBS might never have had a long running action cartoon.

Various imitators (not necessarily in a bad way) probably never would have existed but not just the obvious ones. Gargoyles, SWAT Kats, King Arthur and the Knights of Justice and even another big franchise like Power Rangers might never have happened (meaning Saban might have left it to Japan) without Ninja Turtles to inspire television producers all around the world. It's hard to gauge just how much difference the lack of TMNT would make. How many non-Marvel non-DC comics would get cartoons? Probably not many.

Vanilla Ice would only have 1 memorable song.

Archie might never have tried adapting franchises they didn't start. (at least I'm not aware of a series they ran which wasn't their's before TMNT.

Playmates may have never had a big boys action figure.

Konami might not have made a bunch of brawler games based on popular franchises in the 90s.

The Battletoids franchise might not exist and if it did... it'd be considered more original.

G.I. Joe's 90s series probably would have done better.

USA Cartoon Express probably would have been cancelled sooner.

Weekday cartoon syndication may have died out sooner in most markets.

F.H.E. wouldn't have had a major boys action series for VHS.

There's really no telling what would have been the big merchandise seller in the early 90s before Power Rangers.

FearlessLeader · 02-13-2012, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982

Are you talking about the "Take Me to Your Leader" episode?

Not really a certain episode or anything just who Leonardo is as a character and what he represents

*Donnie* · 02-13-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FearlessLeader

Actually thinking about it, it's kind of insane to me just how much this fandom has influenced my life.

Yep. Ditto.

*ZariusTwo* · 02-13-2012, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Tiptup

.Various imitators (not necessarily in a bad way) probably never would have existed but not just the obvious ones. Gargoyles, SWAT Kats, King Arthur and the Knights of Justice and even another big franchise like Power Rangers might never have happened (meaning Saban might have left it to Japan) without Ninja Turtles to inspire television producers all around the world. It's hard to gauge just how much difference the lack of TMNT would make. How many non-Marvel non-DC comics would get cartoons? Probably not many.

You're giving TMNT way too much credit here. I hope you realize this.

And what does Arthur and the Knights of Justice, a niche show with not even HALF the fanbase of any other shows you mentioned, do to be considered an "imitator"? If anything, it's a hybrid of Prince Valiant and Dungeons and Dragons

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-13-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc_ock_4mugen

-Power Rangers in Space would have been less cool to me...

Power Rangers would probably not exist, even if it's a different show.

*Zachatello00* · 02-14-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FearlessLeader

I have no idea who I would be as a person without the guys.

Actually thinking about it, it's kind of insane to me just how much this fandom has influenced my life.

Yeah, same here. The turtles helped mold me into who I am today. I actually had a date once with a hot girl that I didn't call back because she couldn't understand why I liked TMNT. no thanks sweetie.

Like Tiptup, I would have stayed loyal to Disney Afternoon shows. Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck, Gargoyles, those were also some of my favorite.

I'm a big fan of classic animation and cartoons, so I would have gone a completely different route in my choice of toons.

I suppose my office would be decorated with Animaniacs, Tiny Toons, and Ducktales stuff...

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-14-2012, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachatello00

I actually had a date once with a hot girl that I didn't call back because she couldn't understand why I liked TMNT. no thanks sweetie.

You could tell her about the Mirage Comics. Maybe she only knew the 1987 cartoon and thought it was mostly children who liked TMNT?

*Zachatello00* · 02-14-2012, 01:33 PM

No way. She drew a line in the sand I would never cross.

*Jephael* · 02-17-2012, 02:11 PM

Good for you, Zach! I would never go out with a girl who dissed me for liking the Ninja Turtles, no matter how pretty.

As far as the "what if" question is concerned, I'd rather not think about it because like many of you have already said the TMNT really shaped me into the person I am today! I've had some major low points in my life as well, but the Ninja Turtles always helped me think posative!

rav4ge · 02-17-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Slap-Happy

I really wouldn't be into most things I am now.

If I remember correctly, TMNT was my gateway drug into the comics world. Without them, I probably wouldn't care all that much about comics in general.

My love of comics led to me becoming a movie buff and a toy collector, which all lead me to some of my favorite things.

Same here. I wonder what kind of franchise would have filled the void if TMNT hadn't been around for my early years of grade school and beyond. I'd probably end up being into Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh hardcore, since that's what was big in the playground at the time. Past that, I have no idea. There are so many factors to consider.

*Bauer536* · 02-19-2012, 06:06 PM

Honestly, I don’t know what I’d do without the turtles.

I’d probably focus more on Batman or Superman. However, even though they are super awesome, they can get boring because they are so darn popular. Same thing with Marvel superheroes like the X-Men. I like them, but there may come to a point where I just say, “I don’t care about the new incarnations. I’m sticking with the old instead of the new.” With TMNT, that doesn’t happen. I’m always looking forward to see what happens in the new adaptations, whether they’re great or terrible. I’m still hoping TMNT becomes as big as DC and Marvel superheroes because that would be great, then Peter will realize that it was worth creating them in the long run.

Seriously: I think Peter is very depressed with how things ended with his franchise.

Just to end things: Peter shouldn’t regret for what he created. All that matters is he has a family and that there are fans out there who love the turtles as much as they might love the Justice League or Avengers. Somebody should tell him that, then he can be happy and just enjoy that the franchise is evolving with success.

02-12-2012, 09:44 PM	#42
FearlessLeader Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Watching Space Heroes Posts: 1,048	This thought honestly depresses me. I have no idea who I would be as a person without the guys. I learned my sense of morality from the Turtles. Pretty much every other interest I have I can trace back to my interest in the Turtles. I choose to became a cop because of life lessons from Leonardo and being ingrained with the desire to help others. I'm not certain how I would have made it through my parents divorce as a child without the guys. Actually thinking about it, it's kind of insane to me just how much this fandom has influenced my life. __________________ Artwork by Jim Lawson

02-12-2012, 09:52 PM	#43
Panda Khan Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: The Bamboo Grove. Posts: 249	I would probably be a Transformers/GI Joe fan without TMNT in my childhood. __________________ "When It's Time To Party We Will Party Hard."

02-13-2012, 08:00 AM	#46
Ninja Tiptup Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,451	Woah... never really thought about that before. Well for me... I guess I would have stuck to Disney Afternoon cartoons. I might not have found a more actiony show that interested me until FOX Kids aired Batman, X-Men or Spider-Man or maybe when Disney aired Gargoyles. Honestly I didn't fully appreciate any of those besides Spider-Man: TAS until I was older. Maybe the first big toy franchise I would have gone bonkers over would have been Power Rangers as I was still pretty young when that started. I wasn't into Transformers, G.I. Joe or ThunderCats but that may have changed with no TMNT around to latch onto. Pizza probably wouldn't be among my favorite foods and I might never had a fondness for reptiles and amphibians. I wouldn't have gotten in trouble for repeating "damn" from TMNT 1 back in kindergarden. I may never have notice the voice work of Cam Clarke, Barry Gordon, Pat Fraley, Peter Reneday or Townsend Coleman. Though Townsend and Cam might have still been in The Tick had that been produced in the 90s as it was. I wouldn't have had that added interest that Barry Gordon was Jake on SWAT Kats or Cam Clarke was He-Man in the 2002 remake. I would have stopped watching network Saturday morning cartoons way earlier had there been no TMNT 2003 on the 4Kids block. Something else would have been the first show I collected on DVD as well. Potentially I would not have spent nearly as much money as I have on DVDs over the years. I'd probably be a lot less paranoid of chemicals having not been freaked out by various mutagen creations in the TMNT mythos. As I didn't really read comics until around Jr. High and still don't read many. I potentially would have a lot less toys in general or maybe just more Power Rangers stuff but as much as I've enjoyed many franchises over the years, TMNT is easily the one taking up the most space in any residence I have live at. I'm not sure what my cousin and I would have bonded over for so many years. My tastes in cartoons might be dramatically different if Ninja Turtles never existed. I might not even like cartoons as much as I do now if it were not for TMNT. As for the industry... CBS might never have had a long running action cartoon. Various imitators (not necessarily in a bad way) probably never would have existed but not just the obvious ones. Gargoyles, SWAT Kats, King Arthur and the Knights of Justice and even another big franchise like Power Rangers might never have happened (meaning Saban might have left it to Japan) without Ninja Turtles to inspire television producers all around the world. It's hard to gauge just how much difference the lack of TMNT would make. How many non-Marvel non-DC comics would get cartoons? Probably not many. Vanilla Ice would only have 1 memorable song. Archie might never have tried adapting franchises they didn't start. (at least I'm not aware of a series they ran which wasn't their's before TMNT. Playmates may have never had a big boys action figure. Konami might not have made a bunch of brawler games based on popular franchises in the 90s. The Battletoids franchise might not exist and if it did... it'd be considered more original. G.I. Joe's 90s series probably would have done better. USA Cartoon Express probably would have been cancelled sooner. Weekday cartoon syndication may have died out sooner in most markets. F.H.E. wouldn't have had a major boys action series for VHS. There's really no telling what would have been the big merchandise seller in the early 90s before Power Rangers. __________________ It's weird to be normal, and it's normal to be weird.

02-14-2012, 01:33 PM	#53
Zachatello00 On the beat! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hiding behind the phone booth Posts: 2,137	No way. She drew a line in the sand I would never cross. __________________ "You're still news!"

02-17-2012, 02:11 PM	#54
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	Good for you, Zach! I would never go out with a girl who dissed me for liking the Ninja Turtles, no matter how pretty. As far as the "what if" question is concerned, I'd rather not think about it because like many of you have already said the TMNT really shaped me into the person I am today! I've had some major low points in my life as well, but the Ninja Turtles always helped me think posative! __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

02-12-2012, 06:17 PM	#41
Type 97 Chi-ha Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brookfield, IL Posts: 1,333	Oh, ninjas were known in the West prior to the TMNT. I first heard about them from watching the TV serial "Shogun", then reading the book of the same title by James Clavell.

02-12-2012, 09:55 PM	#44
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,956	I am definitely on the same page as you, Fearless. The TMNT got me through most if not all of my low points in life. I'd rather not entertain the thought of not having their influence in my life.

02-19-2012, 06:06 PM	#56
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	Honestly, I don’t know what I’d do without the turtles. I’d probably focus more on Batman or Superman. However, even though they are super awesome, they can get boring because they are so darn popular. Same thing with Marvel superheroes like the X-Men. I like them, but there may come to a point where I just say, “I don’t care about the new incarnations. I’m sticking with the old instead of the new.” With TMNT, that doesn’t happen. I’m always looking forward to see what happens in the new adaptations, whether they’re great or terrible. I’m still hoping TMNT becomes as big as DC and Marvel superheroes because that would be great, then Peter will realize that it was worth creating them in the long run. Seriously: I think Peter is very depressed with how things ended with his franchise. Just to end things: Peter shouldn’t regret for what he created. All that matters is he has a family and that there are fans out there who love the turtles as much as they might love the Justice League or Avengers. Somebody should tell him that, then he can be happy and just enjoy that the franchise is evolving with success.