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Old 04-05-2012, 12:35 PM   #641
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Wow. I dream of owning that kind of stuff.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:04 PM   #642
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so this is the go-to art thread, right? i thought this might be better suited in the 'for sale' forum, but... eh... screw it. this thread is more fun.

here is an amazing piece that'll be on the auction block at heritage in about two weeks... the first drawing of all of all four turtles.

http://comics.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...o=152001#Photo

It looks as if Leonardo has 3 front facing toes in this picture, which makes me laugh at myself as I was one who hasn't been a big fan of Nickelodeons 3 frontward facing toes.
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Old 04-05-2012, 04:50 PM   #643
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I would think one would want to keep SOMETHING from their early days
Trust me, Kev still has PLENTY of early art still in possession after all these years. Sure the IDW stuff he's selling as soon as he makes them, but the vintage stuff, well he's got plenty. And what he does sell, takes a BIG chunk to get.

And yea some artists sell, some keep. Peter Laird, for instance, sells virtually nothing. He hasn't from the begining. You'd think that now, after making it uber clear that he is basically completely done with the Turtles, he'd sell. But it's just not what he does. While Kevin through the years has always been willing to spread the love, either by selling or simply giving away. Different strokes and all that...
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Old 04-05-2012, 10:00 PM   #644
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A lot of awesome new pieces.
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Old 04-06-2012, 09:16 PM   #645
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so this is the go-to art thread, right? i thought this might be better suited in the 'for sale' forum, but... eh... screw it. this thread is more fun.

here is an amazing piece that'll be on the auction block at heritage in about two weeks... the first drawing of all of all four turtles.

http://comics.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...o=152001#Photo

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This, by the way, was hanging at the 35 days event throughout December and January:

It's not letting me edit the image size on my crappy school connection, so I put it in spoilers:
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Old 04-06-2012, 09:24 PM   #646
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*looks closely at the image*
Was Mikey the only Turtle never to carry a sword as well as his primary weapon?
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Old 04-06-2012, 09:50 PM   #647
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Like other things I've mentioned on this forum, I'm sure I'm going to get flack for saying this:

If he, or whoever is selling that framed bundle (or just the first drawing of the Turtles group) for over half a MILLION dollars, REALLY wants that much for it, it's lame. Just like with the person/people running Mr. Eastman's eBay auctions, it seems like they want way too much.

Let the free market do it's job. Well over $300 for the first sketch for Issue #5, and they don't let it go to the high bidder? Why not just list it wit a BIN or Best Offer? And there was another sketch for a cover that didn't hit his reserve.

It looks to me that he's trying to get rid of stuff, and donates part of the profits to a charity he loves, so why not sell it for what it sells for? Or again, just put everything up with a BIN or Best Offer.

Don't take this rant to mean that I have no idea what that first drawing means to the comic/art/pop culture world, because I do. I know I'll never be able to afford it, but I think it should go to auction.

What about those high end auctions in New York? Wouldn't it fetch a lot of money there?

Like I said, I know I'm going to get bashed for saying what I have, because I'm sure some here know Mr. Eastman, or hold him in high regard (and I'm a fan myself), but if he thinks an ordinary TMNT fan is going to be able to buy that, he's dreaming. It belongs in a museum, or a high-end auction...
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:18 PM   #648
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or a high-end auction...
Did you not read the few posts above? It will be auctioned off.

My guess is Eastman doesn't REALLY want to sell, but if he ever did, it would take an huge amount of money for him to part with it. Like $600,000.
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:55 PM   #649
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That idw #1 sketch re creation did get sold to the high bidder
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:56 PM   #650
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:13 PM   #651
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I thought the #1 and recreation cover didn't hit the reserve, even at over $3,000...
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:11 AM   #652
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It didn't hit the reserve but it was still sold to the high bidder in the end. I contacted them and found out it was
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:38 AM   #653
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but if he thinks an ordinary TMNT fan is going to be able to buy that, he's dreaming.
Keep in mind that years ago he sold the original artwork for issue#1 for $250,000. On ebay. All it takes is one buyer.
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Keep in mind that years ago he sold the original artwork for issue#1 for $250,000. On ebay. All it takes is one buyer.
Which seems a little on the low end if you ask me.
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Old 04-07-2012, 12:32 PM   #655
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Like other things I've mentioned on this forum, I'm sure I'm going to get flack for saying this:

If he, or whoever is selling that framed bundle (or just the first drawing of the Turtles group) for over half a MILLION dollars, REALLY wants that much for it, it's lame. Just like with the person/people running Mr. Eastman's eBay auctions, it seems like they want way too much.

Let the free market do it's job. Well over $300 for the first sketch for Issue #5, and they don't let it go to the high bidder? Why not just list it wit a BIN or Best Offer? And there was another sketch for a cover that didn't hit his reserve.

It looks to me that he's trying to get rid of stuff, and donates part of the profits to a charity he loves, so why not sell it for what it sells for? Or again, just put everything up with a BIN or Best Offer.

Don't take this rant to mean that I have no idea what that first drawing means to the comic/art/pop culture world, because I do. I know I'll never be able to afford it, but I think it should go to auction.

What about those high end auctions in New York? Wouldn't it fetch a lot of money there?

Like I said, I know I'm going to get bashed for saying what I have, because I'm sure some here know Mr. Eastman, or hold him in high regard (and I'm a fan myself), but if he thinks an ordinary TMNT fan is going to be able to buy that, he's dreaming. It belongs in a museum, or a high-end auction...
Um...It IS going to a high-end auction house. That's what Heritage IS. And no, I don't think he thinks it will sell to an ordinary fan. He isn't expecting it to. It isn't marketed to an ordinary fan. It is marketed to high-end comic art collectors. As it should be.
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See, I plead ignorance on this, because I was under the impression Heritage was just another auction-style place to sell comic stuff. I didn't realize it was a high-end auction place.

Still, though, $600,000? Another poster was right though, it only takes one buyer...
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:57 PM   #657
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as the years tick on, young kids that were once die-hard TMNT fans are becoming doctors, lawyers, CEOs, people with money to burn.
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Old 04-07-2012, 09:17 PM   #658
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Still, though, $600,000? Another poster was right though, it only takes one buyer...
Well, in truth, $600K is a very unlikely number. When looking at publicly available knowledge of big sales in all comic books (Marvel, DC, Independents, etc), that is including biggies such as Batman, Superman, etc., those books have ALL failed to reach that number in a single sale. Some truly remarkable books, such as 1942's Batman #11 cover sold for "only" $250,000. Most recently Superman #14 did not meet reserve at over $400k. These are books that are tremendously older and with a fanbase and overall cultural impact that I think we can all agree dwarfs the Turtles. The only comic title to have reached, and surpassed, those kind of numbers would be the overseas title Tintin and a few of the masterful Frank Frazetta paintings for books that have exceeded $1 million.

All of that said, this particular piece is about as big as they come for Turtles art and really of the entire Copper Age of comics. It has some value, some SERIOUS value. However, even though the Turtles are massively important in comic history, the truth is there are relatively few collectors of the art out there (as compared to other major titles: Spiderman, etc.) Some have deep pockets, but overall I'd say most TMNT collectors would/could not pay into six figures for this piece. But what sets this piece apart is that, just like the sale of TMNT #1 artwork, it will likely go to a major COMIC art collector, not necessarily Turtles collector. The person who bought that Turtles art for $250k was the only bidder in that auction and won it once the reserve was hit for $250k. This was after the art had been offered for some time for a cool $1 million even. He owns nothing else Turtles related. He probably didn't watch the cartoon, but maybe the movie. He might have a been a fan of some sort, but mainly he saw the historical relevance of such a piece and had the financial means (this guys owns some fantastic artwork and comics and never sells anything - he simply doesn't need the money. The guy is loaded.) THOSE are the type of people Kevin is hoping will be bidding; not us Dromers.

IMO the only way that this piece gets anywhere near that stratospheric amount that Kevin is hoping for, is if that gentleman is at play again...or some of his friends.
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Does anyone here know if A.C Farley does commissions?
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Old 04-08-2012, 09:27 PM   #660
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Does anyone here know if A.C Farley does commissions?
Nope. He does not want to draw the turtles anymore.
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