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I was so seriously contemplating Ron Paul...and I may still vote for the guy. For a politician he seems some how honest, ya know. I may not agree with him on every thing, but he's stood for what he believes for years, and hasn't waffled and changed positions when it's convenient, like both Romney and Obama.
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Oh, there are occasionally politicians who are good, though they are rare. And I live in Cook County, Illinois, which has had plenty of bad politicians-which is why I never believed the hype about how Obama was going to be so fantastic. Now a lot of people realize what I knew all along.
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Awesome. Now maybe somebody's mom won't die from cancer in the span of 3 months due to not having health insurance.
Keep on with your political rambling because it's soooooo important that you get to keep your precious precious money to fritter away on ninja turtle bullsh*t.
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That doesn't change much. My mother-in-law was eaten alive by cancer in the same 3 month span, and she did have insurance. All it did was make it more comfortable for her to die.
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i think you mean to say, it wouldnt have changed much in my mother-in-law's situation... to say "that doesnt change much" as pertaining to all cancer/treatments is pure ignorance...
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True, but in cases where you are that eaten up by cancer, there's little hope, insurance or no.
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but there are extreme cases with almost any illness or condition (even the flu!) certainly you wouldnt say "oh you have cancer? well no need to get that healthcare (that you can now afford and you can't be denied) because it will simply kill you and make no difference, i can see the future and that is how your cells will mutate and spread, i know this because it happened to someone completely different than you"
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Also, save it Jester. Don't care about your bullsh*t either.
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So for people who get health insurance through their place of employment...this whole thing means nothing. Got it.
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And BTW, they already have a statewide system in the state of Massachussetts where you have to buy health insurance, and if you cannot afford it, you can buy a special state policy. Trouble is, one Massachussetts resident I've talked to has told me that though he couldn't afford regular insurance, he wasn't allowed to buy the state policy. Makes you wonder, doesn't it? |
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Also, like other Europeans said: Utterly confusing.
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The fear mongering side is so vocal that I sometimes wonder if there is remotely any truth to what they say. After all, why the heck would someone be opposed to healthcare being more available to people in need, unless they really like the "screw you, got mine" attitude? |
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This obviously doesn't apply to critical **** like cancer or whatever. It's more like "Oh, your hips are a little worn out and they hurt? Wait two months and we'll fix that with surgery. But if you are in a hurry (at least here in Sweden, don't know about the rest of Europe) and you have the money, you can always choose to go to a private hospital instead. No biggie. There is an annual "fee" for medicine, if you have some chronic ****. The government will pay most of it, and the patient will NEVER have to pay more than 2600 SEK (375 USD at the moment) a year. Necessary plastic surgery (like on a severely burnt person) has the same price tag. Unnecessary plastic surgery is paid for in full by the patient. Dental care isn't included, but more and more citizens and politicians think that it should be. It probably will be if we get a left-leaning government after the election in two years. So that's basically Swedish health care. Doesn't sound so scary now, does it?
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Yes, that's basically the health system here too. It's not like the national system is the ONLY system that is available. If you have the insurance, or the money, or the referrals, then you can have treatment on the private system, just like how all US hospitals operate. The national system is there for routine or minor procedures, or a safety net to help treat people who cannot go private. And that's the part that the fearmongers in the US who point out the negative aspects of the systems in Europe tend to ignore.
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