What do you think is the worst thing in TMNT history?

[Genesis]

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

If you want something considered worse along those lines? How about Operation:Blue Line? I love hearing the '87 cartoon voices but the whole short made me cringe it was so bad.

Oh, dear lord... A piece of Turtles media I've never seen before. And one that rivals Turtle Tunes in being really, really bad. How lovely... thanks.

[Cryomancer]

Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982

There are actually some women who can't get kids due to some medical problems, no matter how much they try. And they are not drawings...

Of course, but it's one of the questions that you might ask yourself if you found out you were a drawing.

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Genesis

Oh, dear lord... A piece of Turtles media I've never seen before. And one that rivals Turtle Tunes in being really, really bad. How lovely... thanks.

The AVGN mentioned this when he was doing Turtle Tuesdays. So...Rob was around to voice Raph for this abomination, and yet he wasn't around for the awful European Vacation eps. *tsks*

[FoxZerro]

Originally Posted by Leo656

this is by far the thing I hate the most, even moreso because if you describe the story to someone, it sounds so stupid they'd refuse to believe it, and yet it's "Official".

I agree, I remember telling my sister about it and she flat out refused to believe it was the case. Then when she bought the issue to see for herself we had a long discussion

Originally Posted by Cryomancer

The drawing thing could have been good if it was ever important in any way.

Which tied in nicely to this post. My sister felt that it was odd that April didn't have a bigger reaction to the whole thing. She said it felt like she was more bothered by the cockroach stuff than the fact that she is a drawing. Which in rereading is kind of true. The book is sort of your entire existence up until this point is a lie and she focuses on that explaning why she can't have children. Sure it ends with the "I'm Nobody." line but even that is resolved rather quickly.

[Genesis]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

The AVGN mentioned this when he was doing Turtle Tuesdays.

Well, I tend to avoid that guy like the Plague, so it makes sense that I didn't learn about it that way.

[Killer Moth]

Originally Posted by FoxZerro

I'd almost be alright with the redux of Venus if, IF... they hadn't also shoehorned in the whole we're not really brothers bit. Before that I hadn't even considered a romantic aspect existing within the show, but after such hamfisted storytelling I couldn't help but think of it nor get it out of my head.

In regard to the movies I have to say that the worst in my opinion is Secret of the Ooze, if only because of the unresolved plot line of Prof. Jordan Perry. Had he been revealed as a Utrom at the end it would have made so much sense in terms of his character throughout the rest of the movie. While I understand why they ended up scrapping the idea for the final cut. That doesn't change the fact that throughout the entire performance in the film the actor brought these little otherworldly charms to the character so that for those watching closely the reveal at the end would have been that much sweeter.

Sorry for that rant, but its something that always bugged me.

Understandable. Maybe the writers were aware of the possible Turtlecest issues -- to say nothing about that eventually spreading like wildfire in the years to follow among the fanfic fandom -- so they pulled a CYA, just in case. Again, it isn't the issue itself, but how it was presented. Either way, I understand.

I don't disagree about "if only Perry was shown to be what he truly was: an Utrom." However, given Krang's massive popularity and the fanbase at that time may be too young to discern such a difference, I understand and accept the decision not to go there. (Of course, hindsight is 20/20 and other cliches.)

Anyway, the purpose of this post -- besides replying to the above -- is to add further to my previous "certain then-unpopular characters or interpretations aging better than expected" theme. Upon reflection, 87 or Fred Wolf Slash should be added to the mix. Yes, as we all had our badass Slash figures in 1990, quite a few of us undoubtedly went, "Argh! Why couldn't the animated version be more badass like the action figure?! RUINED FOREVER!" The Archie version restored his image considerably, yet, over time, 87 Slash does possess a certain derp-y charm.

And, hey, it didn't hurt he was the most physically strongest characters on the show (he did lift a small building over his head in "Night of the Rogues"). "Donatello Trashes Slash" showed that if he kept his intellect, he probably would have successfully conquered everything in sight. It also really didn't hurt that, "everyone tricked him" or quite a few did. (I haven't seen "Donatello Trashes Slash" in years, but I don't believe the aliens that gave Slash his intellect boost were untoward about him. Feel free to correct me, please.) Such feelings are almost pity-based, sure, but it trumps any sort of nerd rage in the long run.

To a lesser extent, such pity or derpiness or bizarre ness explains my newfound fondness for SOTO Tokka and Rahzar, and maybe Post-Season 1 Bebop and Rocksteady, as well. (I didn't actively loathe when younger, but I wasn't crazy about any of them, either.)

Or, it is "How I Got Over My 87 Slash Nerd Rage And Started To Like That Derpy Maniac."