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Old 07-16-2012, 11:58 PM   #61
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a gun toting Alfred.
Isn't one of Batman's defining character traits that he absolutely hates firearms? Is the next Fatastic Four show going to have The Thing being absolutely thrilled with his new powers?
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:38 AM   #62
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Meh. I'll see it at some point. The Batman didn't thrill me, so I barely caught it. Brave and the Bold was OK. This looks somewhere in between.

As a personal trainer, I have to say it is absolutely, physically impossible for someone to be Batman - that is to say, built like a brick sh*thouse, strong enough to punch through brick, fast enough to dodge bullets, and an all-around Olympic-level athlete - without at least 4-5 hours of sleep a day and a high-calorie, low-fat, protein-rich diet. Michael Phelps eats like 8000 calories a day and all he does is swim.

Unless he "rarely" sleeps while being intravenously injected with a "liquid diet" of blender-whipped tuna fish and whey protein, this Batman should snap his ankle the first time he jumps from a fire escape, given his level of malnutrition. I "get" what they're going for, it's just a silly and unneccesary bio point. Good thing they never show cartoons eating or sleeping anyway, and they'll never reference it again.
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Old 07-17-2012, 04:45 AM   #63
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Thanks for the panel links RG. I love listening to Kevin Smith talk geek.
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:22 AM   #64
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Having no Joker, Penguin, or Riddler around is a big risk for a new Bat-show, but at least it gives those characters more of a break. It's fairly hard to come up with a new definitive take on some of them with DCAU forever fresh in the mind. Though I have to admit, The Batman's Marilyn Manson take on The Riddler was ace
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:48 AM   #65
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This is like the 4th or 5th Batman incarnation since B:TAS:

DCAU Batman
The Batman
Brave and the Bold
Young Justice Batman
Beware the Batman

I know Young Justice isn't a Batman show but its still a different Batman than the others.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:34 PM   #66
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Isn't one of Batman's defining character traits that he absolutely hates firearms? Is the next Fatastic Four show going to have The Thing being absolutely thrilled with his new powers?
Most modern intepretations of the character give him an irrational hatred of fire arms but as many will point out he started off using guns but what is rarely mentioned is that even after they were deliberately taken out of his arsenal he didn't have the phobia of them that he has developed in recent times. He's trained with them and even though he didn't like it he trained his Robins in the use of them.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:43 PM   #67
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Most modern intepretations of the character give him an irrational hatred of fire arms but as many will point out he started off using guns.
Yep. He started out in the 30's by killing his enemies.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:09 PM   #68
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Yeah, and Bugs Bunny was once Daffy Duck's hero.

That may have been how Batman was before, but his character has evolved and changed from how he was originaly depicted. His parents were killed by a man with a gun, I don't see how his hatred of firearms is irrational.
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Old 07-21-2012, 01:40 AM   #69
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Yeah, and Bugs Bunny was once Daffy Duck's hero.

That may have been how Batman was before, but his character has evolved and changed from how he was originaly depicted. His parents were killed by a man with a gun, I don't see how his hatred of firearms is irrational.
It's irrational as it's portrayed as a mental problem. Isn't it hinted in the comics that Batman allowed himself to "die" because he'd used a gun? Even the DCAU is guilty of this, in the Batman Beyond pilot Bruce does what's necessary to survive and grabs a gun to defend himself and afterwards he looks shocked as if he'd committed a vile act. Disliking something and having an inbuilt terror of it is another.

It's only comparitively recent addition to the mythos anyway. The Batman I grew up with that trained Jason Todd and Tim Drake didn't like firearms but was trained in using them incase he was ever in a situation were he had to.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:04 PM   #70
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To quote Anne Hathaway's Catwoman, "About that whole no guns thing...I'm really not as committed to it as you are."
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:23 PM   #71
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Warner Bros. Tones Down Beware the Batman Animated Series Following Aurora Shooting

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Old 07-30-2012, 05:44 PM   #72
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It's irrational as it's portrayed as a mental problem. Isn't it hinted in the comics that Batman allowed himself to "die" because he'd used a gun? Even the DCAU is guilty of this, in the Batman Beyond pilot Bruce does what's necessary to survive and grabs a gun to defend himself and afterwards he looks shocked as if he'd committed a vile act. Disliking something and having an inbuilt terror of it is another.

It's only comparitively recent addition to the mythos anyway. The Batman I grew up with that trained Jason Todd and Tim Drake didn't like firearms but was trained in using them incase he was ever in a situation were he had to.
and after he failed to save jason frm the blow up, he shud hate fire even more.
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Understandable. I hope it doesn't affect the quality of the cartoon although given that it's was sold on being a more detective driven and realistic show then the idea they're cutting out realistic aspects is a bit bothersome.

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and after he failed to save jason frm the blow up, he shud hate fire even more.
Why? Jason wasn't shot, he was beaten with a crowbar and took the brunt of an explosion.

Batman's failure was not getting back to were he left Jason late but rather not whipping Jason into a reliable sidekick that wouldn't just go off in an emotional temper or rather not realising that Jason probably wasn't cut out to be sidekick in the first place.

Given the tragic real life events around the new movie it'll obviously never happen now and given how I feel about firearms I feel a bit weird making an argument for it but the idea that Bruce would give up because he'd used a gun in order to save his life is crazy.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:15 PM   #74
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^ jason was tortured by joker before death yes. that's wut i mean. n jason isn't just a sidekick he is also a son to batman.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:25 PM   #75
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n jason isn't just a sidekick he is also a son to batman.
Yeah.. an adopted son. Bruce adopted Jason, Tim, and Dick. His only biological son is Damien.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:47 PM   #76
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Ok even if i had no problem with the gun thing, I have a major problem with Alfred. He still looks like a friggin butler! They just gave him a bowler hat and some guns. I wonder how long itll take the Gotham Police to look for all the old butlers in the city.
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This show sounds like a diasaster. They can't make it a serious detective show and then make it for kids at the same time.
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:22 PM   #78
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i think batman shud hate guns even more after jason got into it. u kno, he used a gun to threaten batman n tried to make him do unhornorable thing remember?
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Old 07-31-2012, 12:46 PM   #79
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This show sounds like a diasaster. They can't make it a serious detective show and then make it for kids at the same time.
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:54 PM   #80
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This show sounds like a diasaster. They can't make it a serious detective show and then make it for kids at the same time.
This is the dumbest thing you've posted yet. Of course they can.
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