Colorado Movie Shooting

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by GK Punk

I'm not jumping down his throat, I like guitar raph as well. However he stated as a fact that he was dressed as the Joker. he said "I am the Joker" That's not dressing as The Joker. If I was jumping down his throat I would have been mean, but guitar raph means no harm. I like the guy. I may have been short with him but I've had a lot of health problems the past week and can't tell when I'm being short with someone out of pain, or when I'm talking normal.
So my apologies to Guitar Raph if I came off short.

You probably don't know this, but I'm part of a Costuming charity group that has branches through out the country. We take pictures with kids/families (and sometimes teens and adults too.) take donations for children hospitals so on and so forth. So to me, it's a pretty big deal.

Generally, I don't go to the theater much unless it's something I really badly want to see. Sometimes we go with out the charity group, but still go in costume and pose with kids and families just because it's part of who we are now. Although I generally half ass it when I just do it for fun.

Still not seeing how this changes your movie viewing experience. There are tons of ways to drum up charity money. Seen it, done it. So that's not really a deal, especially with comic films.

But if you want to see a movie so bad would not being able to dress up like Ant-man really change that at all? Would it somehow make the movie better? I'm leaning towards no. Say what you want but that's how I feel. Playing dress up and midnight screenings are not important to the movie going experience.

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, the guy looked creepy as hell. He definitely has some issues, and I really hope they go for the death penalty in this case. However, it'll be up to the victims and their families whether it will be pursued or not.

[OA]

Originally Posted by Stryker

But if you want to see a movie so bad would not being able to dress up like Ant-man really change that at all? Would it somehow make the movie better? I'm leaning towards no. Say what you want but that's how I feel. Playing dress up and midnight screenings are not important to the movie going experience.

I sort of equate it to people dressing up for comic conventions and the such. I don't do it, but lots of people seem to get a real kick out of it so I can see how they'd be bummed. As for changing the viewing experience, I'd say no. It'd be like if they banned popcorn and soda. It'd suck but the movie is still the movie.

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Yeah, the guy looked creepy as hell. He definitely has some issues, and I really hope they go for the death penalty in this case. However, it'll be up to the victims and their families whether it will be pursued or not.

My first thought was that maybe he was trying to act all crazy so that he could plead non guilty by reason of insanity. I mean the guy was pretty smart...and that might the smartest thing to do in his postion.

[pannoni1]

If someone dresses as Shredder at the next TMNT movie, I'm running away immediately! I was absolutely horrified when I first heard about this, and felt like another piece of freedom is going away. This time, we may have some metal detector on the way to the screen where the guy who checks your tickets are. It proves that there are still easy ways to fool the public, and with the lights out, the vivid sound effects in 5.1 surround, and screaming effects seemingly coming from the film, can be a good bait for allowing a shooting spree. And this occurred in a nice solid middle-class area where experiencing crime is an afterthought. We just have to raise our guards from time to time, because you never know when the villain strikes next.

[sdp]

It's part of the experience, I'd never dress as a character in a movie since i'd feel uncomfortable during it and I'd feel silly, but seeing other fans dressed add to the atmosphere and the excitement. Does it make the movie better than it is? Yeah, that adds a lot to the experience even if it's the same movie. He wasn't even wearing a costume, he was wearing protective gear.

Being afraid of movie theaters after this is just silly, crimes happen all the times, just because a tragedy happens doesn't mean we should restrict freedoms, if it were a huge problem sure but how does this one incident mean we need to implement these restrictions, if anything go after the real problem how he got the ammunition and guns, not a silly costume.

[GK Punk]

Originally Posted by Stryker

Still not seeing how this changes your movie viewing experience. There are tons of ways to drum up charity money. Seen it, done it. So that's not really a deal, especially with comic films.

But if you want to see a movie so bad would not being able to dress up like Ant-man really change that at all? Would it somehow make the movie better? I'm leaning towards no. Say what you want but that's how I feel. Playing dress up and midnight screenings are not important to the movie going experience.

You asked for my opinion on it, I never tried changing yours. You are the one that brought it up. I don't dress up to change your experience, and I don't see why it bothers you that I like to do it.

[The Stryker]

I was asking how does it change YOURS and if it would really change anything about movies if it were banned.

I couldn't care less about cosplayers. For realies.

[MikeandRaph87]

I am a perserver of life,but I want that turd put to death for this! These victims are mostly around my age(most were 23-27) and I can relate to them in so many ways. If not I have a parent the same age as the eldest victim and is a mirroring of something my parent would do for/with me. It hurts me deep down despite never going anywhere near the state of Colorado in my lifetime at this point and not knowing any of the victims or even know someone who knew any of them.I am affected by this and I hope an article is wrong that said that the second line in an entry of Batman would be this shooting much like Watergate is to Richard Nixon. The fact that Bruce's parents were gunned down in the back alley of a theatre makes the whole tragedy that much more disturbing. As the upcoming journalist wrote that night in her blog before she was randomly killed, it makes me think of my own mortality. Live for the moment every day yet be cautious with life at the same time. I feel for them and pray for their peace of afterlife and their loved ones to move forward while honoring the fallen. The victims who were sparred be able to shake the hell they witnessed as well. Milehigh comics is donating 20% of all sales since Chuck's team is only a 20 mile drive from the theatre. So if you need a back issue I ask support the vicitms through Chuck and Milehighcomics within the next ten days or so. I apologize for this tangent but this has really touched my soul due to the ability to connect to the victims and my despise of that turd who killed and injured the innocents.

[BubblyShell22]

He's supposed to be formally charged today. I'm not sure if it'll be covered on TV, but if it is, I'm going to watch it on In Session.

[Jephael]

I was just in Colorado over the past week visiting my cousin out in the mountains, and from what I saw on the news some good has come out of this tragedy. People are banding together to support one another. There was even a group of kids selling lemonade to raise funds for the survivors in the hospital.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Jephael

some good has come out of this tragedy. People are banding together to support one another.

It's always that, and I don't know if it's called antything, but there are people who prefer a lot of catastrophes around the world with many deaths, like school massacres, wars, earthquakes, boat and train accidents, not because they think it's fun, but since it brings the world togtether.

[BubblyShell22]

That's awesome, Jeph. It's good that people are coming together and giving their support.

[psych23232323]

Well, I read that it's most likely that Holmes will try an insanity defense. Predictions of insanity debates in this trial are being made.

News says that if the court refuses to hear insanity pleas, then Holmes could face the death penalty.

I knew if he tries to go for not guilty, he would try a "not guilty by mental disease or defect" defense.

[Leo656]

Bullsh*t. They're saying he was schizophrenic. I'm a paranoid schizophrenic, contrary to what many say and hear it's usually a completely manageable disease even without medication. It doesn't, by itself, make a person "criminally insane" and start shooting people. Oh sure, you get thoughts like wouldn't it be somehow "justified" to make other people suffer the same slights and persecution you percieve yourself to have gone through, but it still takes a conscious decision and a will to act before you start hurting people.

I've had "bouts of rage" where I was provoked into getting into fistfights, putting my fist through walls or windows, and in that moment felt helpless as though I was watching someone else do them, and later had no memory of doing them, but that was 100% always in a situation of conflict where I was provoked. Many schizophrenic outbursts have an emotional "trigger" that leads directly to it.

I highly doubt anyone in that theater provoked this guy into what he did. To be found guilty of murder, by law, they need to prove the event was planned in advance and done on purpose, and there seems to be overwhelming evidence to that fact so far. He was NOT "insane". If anything, he was just a punk whose life wasn't going the way he wanted it to, and he decided to pull an "I'll Show Them ALL!" routine.

Waste of a trial. We know he did it, we don't need to know why. Execute him NOW and let justice be done.

[BubblyShell22]

Exactly. He knew what he did was wrong, and he had it all planned out. He's guilty. End of story.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Waste of a trial. We know he did it, we don't need to know why. Execute him NOW and let justice be done.

That is the way I feel. Its best to put him to death ASAP and allow the surviving victims and those close to them and the 12 dead to move on. It is too difficult for them if this case drags on like Jared Loughner still 20 months in and not even a court case yet. The judicial system sure has a way of stringing things along for the sake of justice.

[ZariusTwo]

People still think taking a life helps anyone to move on?

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

People still think taking a life helps anyone to move on?

Apparently

[psych23232323]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

People still think taking a life helps anyone to move on?

I think the only ones who have a say in it are the surviving victims and family members of the ones who lost their lives.

I would want this prick dead but what should matter is the surviving victims and family members, what they want.

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Exactly. He knew what he did was wrong, and he had it all planned out. He's guilty. End of story.

This is true. However, he could still try insanity where "he's not competent to stand trial." I remember how the news said during court, he seemed out of it and acting like if he were insane; so it seems like he would try to seem like he's not able to aid in his own defense; which would mean he wouldn't be in trial until he was fit to proceed but he could just keep pretending he's incompetent to avoid the death penalty.

If he does try that, I seriously hope they find out his ruse and get him to face his crimes.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

People still think taking a life helps anyone to move on?

Why shouldn't they?