[IDW] Concerns on Raph's relationship with his brothers and other shenanigans

Martin · 02-21-2013, 08:38 PM

So I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who has noticed this. Hell, maybe it's even been brought up in the past. Here it goes:

One would think that, due to the fact that raph spent a year and a half wondering the streets alone, his relationship with his brothers would be a bit more distant, or even a bit awkward. I believed that this origin explained perfectly his 'outsider' mentality, and, if they played they cards right, they could also set a nice groundwork for his 'anger issues'. But none of this has been reflected into the comics so far and, to be honest, after so long I'm not really sure I want to see it explored. I know the reincarnation thing plays a big role in all this (I'll get to that in a minute), but I still believe that they missed out big time on this.

Another thing I've been thinking about as of late is that, maybe, the fact that the story has had such a high peace from so early on (and also that the books are only 20 pages long), is not letting us delve into the characters a little bit more. This series is a very story-driven one (as opposed to most turtle material), which is something that I believe we are all loving about it, but I feel that this focus on the story is not really letting us get into the characters heads to see what's going on in there.

Now I wanna briefly address the reincarnation origin. To be honest I dig it; I mean it does makes more sense than "rat learns ninjitsu from watching his master practice"; but (and there is always a but), there are some things that, if done differently, would have resonated better with me. One thing that comes to mind is the time they spent underground training before going to the surface. It makes sense from a story-telling point to have a brief learning / hiding period. I mean in one clean stroke Tom linked the turtles, baxter, krang and the foot together in one neat little origin. Baxter wanted his mutagen and psychotropic serum back and started hunting for the turtles quite immediately, so there wasn't a lot of time to spare. Also raph ended up separated from the group; having a 15 year hiding period with a broken group would have not worked (or maybe it could... mmm renegade wolverine-like raph, interesting haha). But I don't know if you can establish brotherly relationships in that time (let alone do that same thing in the time that raph spent with them). And here is where the ghost ninja memory theories come in: were their relationships in their past lives reflected into their new ones? I'm guessing that that was what the author went for on this one, and I get it, but I still prefer my turtles growing up together in the sewers

Finally, I would have preferred their past lives to play a more subtle role. I like the idea of them being reincarnated, but I'd liked it better if those memories only kicked in from time to time. Like in a fight, someone shoots an arrow at them and they instinctively know how to avoid it. Things like that (right now they play an active role on their relationships and many other aspects of their current lives).

Anyway, I'm no writer so I'm really in no position to judge anyone, so please don't think I'm doing so here.

Cheers

PS: It's pretty late so if any of this seems a bit ilogical to you, that might be it.

02-21-2013, 08:38 PM	#1
Martin Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 596	[IDW] Concerns on Raph's relationship with his brothers and other shenanigans So I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who has noticed this. Hell, maybe it's even been brought up in the past. Here it goes: One would think that, due to the fact that raph spent a year and a half wondering the streets alone, his relationship with his brothers would be a bit more distant, or even a bit awkward. I believed that this origin explained perfectly his 'outsider' mentality, and, if they played they cards right, they could also set a nice groundwork for his 'anger issues'. But none of this has been reflected into the comics so far and, to be honest, after so long I'm not really sure I want to see it explored. I know the reincarnation thing plays a big role in all this (I'll get to that in a minute), but I still believe that they missed out big time on this. Another thing I've been thinking about as of late is that, maybe, the fact that the story has had such a high peace from so early on (and also that the books are only 20 pages long), is not letting us delve into the characters a little bit more. This series is a very story-driven one (as opposed to most turtle material), which is something that I believe we are all loving about it, but I feel that this focus on the story is not really letting us get into the characters heads to see what's going on in there. Now I wanna briefly address the reincarnation origin. To be honest I dig it; I mean it does makes more sense than "rat learns ninjitsu from watching his master practice"; but (and there is always a but), there are some things that, if done differently, would have resonated better with me. One thing that comes to mind is the time they spent underground training before going to the surface. It makes sense from a story-telling point to have a brief learning / hiding period. I mean in one clean stroke Tom linked the turtles, baxter, krang and the foot together in one neat little origin. Baxter wanted his mutagen and psychotropic serum back and started hunting for the turtles quite immediately, so there wasn't a lot of time to spare. Also raph ended up separated from the group; having a 15 year hiding period with a broken group would have not worked (or maybe it could... mmm renegade wolverine-like raph, interesting haha). But I don't know if you can establish brotherly relationships in that time (let alone do that same thing in the time that raph spent with them). And here is where the ghost ninja memory theories come in: were their relationships in their past lives reflected into their new ones? I'm guessing that that was what the author went for on this one, and I get it, but I still prefer my turtles growing up together in the sewers Finally, I would have preferred their past lives to play a more subtle role. I like the idea of them being reincarnated, but I'd liked it better if those memories only kicked in from time to time. Like in a fight, someone shoots an arrow at them and they instinctively know how to avoid it. Things like that (right now they play an active role on their relationships and many other aspects of their current lives). Anyway, I'm no writer so I'm really in no position to judge anyone, so please don't think I'm doing so here. Cheers PS: It's pretty late so if any of this seems a bit ilogical to you, that might be it.