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Old 10-29-2014, 04:38 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by plastroncafe View Post
DC excels at animated movies, but...they haven't put out a good, solid, live action flick since Burton's Batman.
The first half of that is true, but the second is a blatant lie. Opinions and personal tastes and all that aside, more than half of DC's films have still been good-to-great, warts and all. Only really Batman Forever/and Robin deserve the hate they get. Among the rest, the seemingly next most-hated, Green Lantern, was still miles ahead of those two piles of sh*t.

Most of the time anymore, I see people cite movies as "bad" or "awful" because they failed to live up to some arbitrary criteria of the viewer, rather than whether or not they were objectively well-executed. Like I've said before, most of my problems with MoS, for example, come from my own idea of who Superman's character is, and I don't think the movie did it right. Otherwise, it was a really well-done piece of work with some dialog and pacing issues. ((Shrug))

I can thoroughly agree with just about every criticism anyone can throw at the DC films, but to flat-out state they're plain no good is kind of ridiculous. I'm all for demanding more out of our art, but I think we're expecting a little too much out of our super-hero fiction. Especially if someone's going to say Marvel's films are far and away superior. They're just different, and better and worse at entirely different things. And some of those really are pretty weak, or at least forgettable.

I don't know. Lord knows, I have my preferences and biases, but I'm a little shocked it's still a "competition" among fans anymore. Proof that people just need SOMEthing to argue about, I s'pose.

I end up seeing everything super-hero related eventually, so I'll end up seeing these as well, but honestly only the Captain America and Avengers-related stuff really grabs me. I think they've done a really good job at making that character work on screen without making it farcical, and that's something I was worried about before the first one came out, since every other attempt in the past had failed spectacularly. I really like what they've done with Cap. I'm sure the movies about the "lesser" Marvel characters will be just fine, but it'll be another case of winning me over in the theater, because I'm not familiar with the books. They're usually pretty good with that. That's one thing they're great at, is making films that are inclusive to the viewer even if they're not familiar with the characters beforehand. That's not easy to pull off, especially with the kind of lore that comics characters can build over time.

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