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Old 11-12-2014, 09:01 PM   #24
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Agree, there have been some good comic films. And I suppose you can argue that the time constraints can also be seen as a benefit as it can lead to a more coherent, tightly structured plot whereas there's more room for filler in a television series. Sort of like setting lower word limits in essays to keep the writer focused and eliminate waffling.

What's your favourite comic book film other than the 90 film? With you being a Superman fanboy I'm guessing it's the original Reeve film.

Mine is the Dark Knight or Batman 1989. Not exactly original, but they were great.
Ooof, that's actually really tough, because even the ones I love I'm kind of hard on. Like, I do love the Reeve film, but the ending just ruins it for me. Even when I was four I cried bullsh*t on the cheap ending. It's a great movie, but that kind of ruins it, too; the movie itself was too good to end THAT way. Likewise, the Donner cut of Superman II is a terrific movie, but the fact that it's so patched-together makes me hesitant to recommend it to some people, even though as its own film it's got the overall best narrative of any Superman film, especially the restored scenes with Clark and Jor-El in the Fortress. It just looks "off" in spots and I can get by it but I know some people can't.

In some ways "Batman Begins" might be my overall favorite, because once you get past the fact the Joker isn't in it, it's the best self-contained super-hero movie ever made. You can come in knowing nothing about the character, and by the end you know everything important there is to know, it sets up the entire mythology perfectly, and its only deviations from the source material are so minor and inconsequential they're barely noticeable. "Dark Knight" may be a better film and gets all the hype, but it's still a sequel, and thus doesn't work as perfectly as its own self-contained piece of work. If a person factors in faithfulness to the source as well as actually being a very well-done movie in its own right that anyone could enjoy whether they read comics or not, "Batman Begins" came closer than any movie ever has.

I actually prefer "Superman Returns" to the other Superman films; it's a bit melancholy, and Lois was painfully miscast, but it was very true to the spirit of both the books and the earlier films, it's still the best-looking Superman film by far, and also has the best music. They made some choices that I personally wouldn't have made, but I'll forever argue it has far more going For it than Against it. I slightly put it over the Reeve films for a few small reasons, mostly Routh's Clark being less of a dork and there overall being less silly humor and flat jokes than the original film.

Keaton's Batman is great, too, and I'd say it's definitely in my top 5, I'm just not entirely a fan of Joker being the one who killed his parents. As its own thing it's terrific, though. I don't think I ever met 5 people who didn't like that movie.

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