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| View Poll Results: Do you think Leo is turning into a Marty Stu? | |||
| Yes, Leo is turning into a Marty Stu. |
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11 | 30.56% |
| No way. Leo receives just as much praise/attention as his brothers. |
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16 | 44.44% |
| Maybe./I don't know. |
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9 | 25.00% |
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I Married a Duck!
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The trouble with THOSE definitions is that they're TOO short. And ambiguous. Seriously, by that definition, pretty much all fictional characters could be labeled as Stu/Sues.
Here's a more comprehensive one (taken from TV Tropes): "Mary Sue is an unrealistically capable and virtuous character, one who simply lacks flaws and is depicted in an overly positive light. In other words, the term "Mary Sue" is generally slapped on a character who is important in the story, possesses unusual physical traits, and has an irrelevantly over-skilled or over-idealized nature." "As far as their traits go, Marty Stu incorporates most of the Common Mary Sue Traits while having quite a few general trends to differentiate him. While the textbook Mary Sue is generally made as a pseudo-realistic ideal of feminine perfection, Marty Stu tends towards taking the Rule of Cool TO THE EXTREME!! Due in part to the Double Standard, Marty tends to be less of an emotional cornerstone and more just an embodiment of pure physical and mental awesome (ala God-Mode Sue). He's the type that tends to be stronger than The Incredible Hulk, faster than Sonic the Hedgehog, and have more MP than God himself. Marty also generally doesn't have the sort of purity common in Mary (although it's not unheard of). Instead, he tends more towards the Darker and Edgier path, with a tragic and very personal backstory being the order of the day. Whereas Mary would use this to emphasize just how special she truly is, Marty uses it for the sake of brooding. No doubt much of the recent popularity of this character trait owes credit to Batman and Wolverine (who can provide examples of Marty Stu themselves, Depending on the Writer), but there's no indication that it only started with those characters. Obviously, neither of these traits are exclusive to Marty. There exist plenty of God Mode and Sympathetic Sues, but in sheer percentage, it's more common on Marty. Since All Girls Want Bad Boys, after all, increasing the Bad Ass potential of a character has the secondary effect of making him more attractive to women without having to sacrifice any capability. Sometimes, this attitude goes just a little too far and creates Jerk Sue." Leo really doesn't meet the criteria for this, as he's NOT perfect, and although he's the "best" fighter, he works hard to get that way, showing that it's not effortless for him as it would be for a Stu, he isn't good at EVERYTHING, and he isn't loved by all the females- April just treats him as a friend, and Karai is- well, she's currently brainwashed. In other words, all he's done is learn a new skill, and suddenly he's turning into a Stu? Sorry, doesn't wash.
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