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It's an opinion if you enjoy the games or not, sure, but you need to realize that you can like and be way into something that isn't great. You can still love something to death and admit that it is, objectively, not very good.
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Of course I can, and I have. *coughs*OT*coughs*

Just kidding, but seriously, I can be objective about things I like and even I can admit when something isn't particularly good even if I do like it....like say...Commando. *dodges objects* That movie is beyond stupid...but I like it. lol Even the first turtles movie, which I think is the best of them (I haven't seen the Michael Bay one so can't say for that one...I've only seen the original 3 and the 2k7 one), still had its flaws.
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You're saying you enjoy underwater Sonic levels,
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No I didn't. ^^ I said that I still get the same
feeling I did when I originally played. Never said I actually liked them.
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but they're mechanically abhorrent and almost universally despised.
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Yeah, and I can see why. The water levels are nuts. Interesting how Sonic & Knuckles lacked them. lol
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Take a step back and realize that while you have every right to enjoy it, that doesn't absolve it of all the missteps those levels take in terms of design and playability. I enjoy Tecmo Koei's musou games, but that doesn't mean they're good games. I'm also not saying the original series of Sonic games is bad, but they're the perfect example of decent games that are haunted by overblown nostalgic reverence that they don't deserve, which is why nothing Sega does will ever live up to them.
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Meh, I still think the games are decent...easy to get through. Are they perfect, nope, but still enjoyable, I feel.
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And your last point proves my previous opening statement accurate; a majority of Sonic fans these days are attracted to the franchise by the characters, something video game enthusiasts despise, because Sonic's sh*tty friends are synonymous with the perceived downfall of he series quality and integrity. That immediately creates an issue for Sega and it's continuously a battle for them to do anything that will please anybody.
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Yeah, but I also still feel that the fact that there are multiple mediums involving the Sonic characters kind of plays into that too. Due to the comics and the animated series that have been put out, these characters have gotten exposure outside of the games. People like the characters.
I haven't played every Sonic game...far from it, but the ones I have played have been okay I guess...but because of my exposure to mediums other than the games, I like the characters.
Either way, Sega will always have trouble marketing Sonic, imo. Fans are just all over the place. I was surprised people disliked Sonic 4. I personally liked it. Just felt like another Sonic game to me...
Oh, sorry I was late with this. I'm finally using my laptop again. It's easier to type than to sit around on a phone answering this kind of post. ^^;