more mystical origin of the ooze?

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 07-02-2016, 10:57 AM

Hey, I was watching a few Kung-Fu and Chinese fantasy movies the other day, and it occurred to me; The TMNT's origin is one of the most disjointed to tell in movies and television, because it has two unrelated components; the mysticism of east Asian martial arts, and the sci-fi aspect of the alien ooze created by the utroms. Both elements in the origin can seem a bit jarring, so I was thinking what about taking the ooze completely into the realm of the martial arts fantasy?

I'm not saying changing or retconning the origin, but if you wanted to do a TMNT version more close to Asian fantasy (much like Powder's idea of a TMNT set in feudal japan) why not tie the ooze into Taoist Chinese alchemy, and the fact that Chin Huang Di (the first emperor) was going insane trying to get his Taoist alchemists to make him the Elixir of life, so he could be immortal? (in fact, it was the mercury in his potions that made him go dingbats) the ooze could have been the concoction of a group of Taoist Alchemists, that got brought to japan or ended up in the foot clan's hands, and they were planning on using it to make more powerful ninjas, but then this little accident happened...

Also, it could tie in with all the shape shifting is East Asian folklore. Consider the anthropomorphic monkey king (Sun Wukong), who was the 'master of a thousand shapes' and became more powerful after soaking in Lao Tzu's alchemy cauldron. Or all the Chinese heroes who are anthropomorphic animals, or could shape shift, might not the ooze be an explanation for those myths in that universe? Or the ninjas in Japanese folklore, who can change shape and have incredible abilities that go beyond just well-train martial artists and ninja trickery.

I'm not saying replace the utrom origin, just a different idea of where the ooze came from if you wanted a more mystical martial arts based version of TMNT. It would tie the martial arts and the mutation into coming from one source. And it's not like we haven't had different origins for where the ooze came from before; in the live action films it was an accidental toxic waste mixture, in the OT it was a substance Krang game to shredder, in 4kids/mirage it was an accidental run-off of Utrom experiments with the transmat to go home. This is just an idea to tighten things up a bit, that might be neat for one version.

07-02-2016, 10:57 AM	#1
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	more mystical origin of the ooze? Hey, I was watching a few Kung-Fu and Chinese fantasy movies the other day, and it occurred to me; The TMNT's origin is one of the most disjointed to tell in movies and television, because it has two unrelated components; the mysticism of east Asian martial arts, and the sci-fi aspect of the alien ooze created by the utroms. Both elements in the origin can seem a bit jarring, so I was thinking what about taking the ooze completely into the realm of the martial arts fantasy? I'm not saying changing or retconning the origin, but if you wanted to do a TMNT version more close to Asian fantasy (much like Powder's idea of a TMNT set in feudal japan) why not tie the ooze into Taoist Chinese alchemy, and the fact that Chin Huang Di (the first emperor) was going insane trying to get his Taoist alchemists to make him the Elixir of life, so he could be immortal? (in fact, it was the mercury in his potions that made him go dingbats) the ooze could have been the concoction of a group of Taoist Alchemists, that got brought to japan or ended up in the foot clan's hands, and they were planning on using it to make more powerful ninjas, but then this little accident happened... Also, it could tie in with all the shape shifting is East Asian folklore. Consider the anthropomorphic monkey king (Sun Wukong), who was the 'master of a thousand shapes' and became more powerful after soaking in Lao Tzu's alchemy cauldron. Or all the Chinese heroes who are anthropomorphic animals, or could shape shift, might not the ooze be an explanation for those myths in that universe? Or the ninjas in Japanese folklore, who can change shape and have incredible abilities that go beyond just well-train martial artists and ninja trickery. I'm not saying replace the utrom origin, just a different idea of where the ooze came from if you wanted a more mystical martial arts based version of TMNT. It would tie the martial arts and the mutation into coming from one source. And it's not like we haven't had different origins for where the ooze came from before; in the live action films it was an accidental toxic waste mixture, in the OT it was a substance Krang game to shredder, in 4kids/mirage it was an accidental run-off of Utrom experiments with the transmat to go home. This is just an idea to tighten things up a bit, that might be neat for one version. Last edited by Panda_Kahn_fan; 07-02-2016 at 11:41 AM.